Florian Weimer schrieb:
> * Maik Merten:
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>> gives clear semantics: It's an image.
>
> Animated GIF, anyone?
Still an image as the usual GIF animations aren't exactly qualifying as
true "films".
>> gives clear semantics: Video.
>
>
5-patentsummary.html
I think the WHATWG proposal have a good chance of becoming "official"
W3C standards over time.
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easy overview of what has been put onto the
page.
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may not be able to ship
a browser offering the same feature set, leaving Debian users in the
dust when it comes to "first class" web video.
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an only
lose. If a free format is in place Debian users can at least watch
parts of the content no matter what Microsoft does.
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ing mistakes as possible. Using MPEG
technology without paying fees is something pretty obvious, I'd say.
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mmendation), then we have a small chance of
> promoting a free codec for widespread use.
Yeah, that's exactly what intended to say.
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h patents were
discussed.
This whole patent system is a mess and I hope it either collapses under
its own weight or is redesigned so it becomes bearable. However, I don't
feel like there's much choice right now but to avoid patents wherever
possible, even if that isn't 100% safe either.
ng license fees or willingly infringing on MPEG patents by
just ignoring the issue won't get you anywhere.
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Maik Merten schrieb:
> If you ship more than 50.000 decoders (easily bypassed by some Linux
> distributions) they'll charge you 0.25$ per decoder. If you happen to
> ship more than 50.000 encoders: Again, 0.25$.
>
> They even charge for encoded content.
>
> ( Taken from
la.com/m4v/m4v-att1.pdf
All those patents (hundreds by the looks) are still in place. They're
not affected by the Qualcomm case at all.
MPEG4 is still heavily patended technology. Not only that, they're
charging actual, real fees.
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and I think
it's in the best interest of Debian to bringing this to the WHATWG's
attention.
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y be free the patent
claims prevent that code to be really free. Although the MPEG-LA isn't
chasing single end-users they're definately going after wide-scale
distribution of "their" coding methods without a proper license. This
effectively makes those codecs non-free.
Maik Mert
elieve all patents have been been "invalidated".
> Fortunately not. We have free MPEG-4 decoders, thanks.
>
I don't consider this to be true.
Can you give a source supporting your theory?
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upport for from all
shipped browsers. That would mean many Debian users can't legally access
parts of the web.
I think it could help if someone from Debian could join the discussion
and summarizes the issues that may arise from using non-free codecs in
web browsers.
Thanks,
Maik Merten
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