Bug#1098718: ITP: idjc -- graphical shoutcast/icecast client (reintroduced)

2025-02-23 Thread Magnus Holmgren
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Magnus Holmgren X-Debbugs-Cc: debian-devel@lists.debian.org * Package name: idjc Version : 0.9.9 Upstream Contact: Stephen Fairchild * URL : https://idjc.sourceforge.io/ * License : GPL2+ Programming Lang: C, Python

dh_auto_clean, autoconf, and building packages twice (was: Potential MBF: packages failing to build twice in a row)

2024-06-23 Thread Magnus Holmgren
ld as much as possible from scratch, wouldn't it make some sense to run dh_auto_configure an extra time before dh_auto_clean, to ensure that the latter actually does something (which it otherwise shouldn't have to, when building freshly unpacked source)? -- Magnus Holmgrenholmg..

Bug#935791: ITP: libmail-authenticationresults-perl -- object oriented Authentication-Results email headers

2019-08-26 Thread Magnus Holmgren
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Magnus Holmgren * Package name: libmail-authenticationresults-perl Version : 1.20180923 Upstream Author : Marc Bradshaw * URL : https://metacpan.org/release/Mail-AuthenticationResults * License : Artistic or GPL 1

Bug#902280: ITP: libnet-dns-resolver-mock-perl -- Mock a DNS Resolver object for testing

2018-06-24 Thread Magnus Holmgren
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Magnus Holmgren * Package name: libnet-dns-resolver-mock-perl Version : 1.20171219 Upstream Author : Marc Bradshaw * URL : https://metacpan.org/pod/Net::DNS::Resolver::Mock * License : Perl Programming Lang: Perl

Re: Autogenerated -dbgsym packages made my package by REJECTed

2016-10-29 Thread Magnus Holmgren
server running an old lintian? The changelog of lintian 2.5.31 says "Allow debug packages without an extended description.", and since they're generated automatically by debhelper without entries in debian/control, we are not supposed to be required to add such entries, are we? -- Magnus Holmgrenholmg...@debian.org Debian Developer signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.

Re: Is the Debian dependency system broken? (wget vs libgnutls-deb0-28)

2015-06-15 Thread Magnus Holmgren
binations of three or more packages that are broken, something the dependency system can't handle. Declaring libnettle6 to break rdeps known to be built against libnettle4 might be the best option but then again there could be versions in backports with lower version numbers yet buil

Dynamic linking against binutils libraries (again) (attn: doko)

2011-11-08 Thread Magnus Holmgren
y that much if it's forbidden, but on the other hand binutils is definitely not a proper library package.) -- Magnus Holmgrenholmg...@debian.org Debian Developer signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.

Suggestion to remove (eventually) libtar from Debian

2011-03-27 Thread Magnus Holmgren
s2 UI module uses libtar to unpack skins. Should be easy to convert to libarchive. Any thoughts? -- Magnus Holmgrenholmg...@debian.org Debian Developer signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.

Re: Bug#589632: ITP: ppp -- Point-to-Point Protocol (PPP) - daemon

2010-09-06 Thread Magnus Holmgren
hat... Could also mean Intent To Hijack, but I think that's uncalled for. -- Magnus Holmgrenholmg...@debian.org Debian Developer signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.

Re: RFA: a lot of packages

2010-08-04 Thread Magnus Holmgren
gt; WNPP. > > Bug#586422: RFA: x2vnc -- A dual-screen hack - link an MS-Windows and X... I could perhaps take care of x2vnc. I use it at work and I also maintain another VNC package. -- Magnus Holmgrenholmg...@debian.org Debian Developer signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.

Re: Flag images

2010-07-24 Thread Magnus Holmgren
st be included into path? > > like > flags/countires//16x10/ > flags/countires//24x15/ > > etc? Not all flags have the same aspect ratio. -- Magnus Holmgrenholmg...@debian.org Debian Developer signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.

Re: Essentiality of Bash

2010-07-04 Thread Magnus Holmgren
fies the amount of > work. Just introduce the new, looser type of dependency; all the packages that could use it instead of Depends don't have to be changed at once. -- Magnus Holmgrenholmg...@debian.org Debian Developer signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.

Essentiality of Bash

2010-06-12 Thread Magnus Holmgren
d-)depends-on- essential-package-without-using-version check. -- Magnus Holmgrenholmg...@debian.org Debian Developer signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.

Re: Should ucf be of priority required?

2010-01-03 Thread Magnus Holmgren
s true for that database, and > unregistering stuff from that database is no longer necessary. Unless ucf is removed but not purged, right? -- Magnus Holmgrenholmg...@debian.org Debian Developer -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org

Re: perl and perl-modules; reflexive dependencies vs. archive bloat

2010-01-01 Thread Magnus Holmgren
but merely to the application as such after installation. Would a new package relationship, say "Post-Depends", be helpful? -- Magnus Holmgrenholmg...@debian.org Debian Developer -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org

Re: Transitional (dummy) packages considered silly

2009-09-20 Thread Magnus Holmgren
On lördagen den 19 september 2009, Pierre Habouzit wrote: > On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 11:52:23PM +0200, Magnus Holmgren wrote: > > When a binary package is renamed or split, as well as if several packages > > are merged under a new name, transitional packages are normally created, &

Re: Transitional (dummy) packages considered silly

2009-09-19 Thread Magnus Holmgren
On fredagen den 18 september 2009, Eugene V. Lyubimkin wrote: > Magnus Holmgren wrote: > > I propose a new control field called e.g. Supersedes that will provide > > the same semantics. In its simplest form, a renamed package will declare > > that it Supersedes the old packa

Transitional (dummy) packages considered silly

2009-09-17 Thread Magnus Holmgren
atter should be upgraded into the former, and that git the VCS is something else entirely. -- Magnus Holmgrenholmg...@debian.org Debian Developer signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.

No suitable doc-base section for SSH software documentation?

2009-09-01 Thread Magnus Holmgren
Is doc-base lacking a section for SSH clients/servers and other remote control software? Sure, you can transfer files and monitor other computers using SSH, but that's not all you can do. -- Magnus Holmgrenholmg...@debian.org Debian Developer signature.asc Description: This

Re: do not upload stuff re mysql / octave / ...-transition

2009-09-01 Thread Magnus Holmgren
On tisdagen den 1 september 2009, Andreas Barth wrote: > Hi, > > currently there is the large mysql / octave / hdf* / nattle / > ...-transition going on which includes about 170 source package > changes and about 120 binary changes (recompilations) for every arch. "nattle&qu

Re: Bug#543150: ITP: pdkim -- cryptographically identify the sender of email

2009-08-29 Thread Magnus Holmgren
On måndagen den 24 augusti 2009, Andreas Metzler wrote: > On 2009-08-23 Magnus Holmgren wrote: > > On lördagen den 22 augusti 2009, Aaron M. Ucko wrote: > >> Magnus Holmgren writes: > >>> * Self-contained, no dependencies (except libc), thanks to code > >&

Re: Bug#543150: ITP: pdkim -- cryptographically identify the sender of email

2009-08-23 Thread Magnus Holmgren
On lördagen den 22 augusti 2009, Aaron M. Ucko wrote: > Magnus Holmgren writes: > > * Self-contained, no dependencies (except libc), thanks to code > > included from the PolarSSL project. > > > From a Debian perspective, that's a policy violation, not a feature!

Bug#543150: ITP: pdkim -- cryptographically identify the sender of email

2009-08-22 Thread Magnus Holmgren
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Magnus Holmgren * Package name: pdkim Version : 1.0 Upstream Author : Tom Kistner * URL : http://duncanthrax.net/pdkim/ * License : GPL Programming Lang: C Description : cryptographically identify the sender of

Re: ries to be rebooted

2009-08-15 Thread Magnus Holmgren
//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP:POINT). I think it's a good policy that can be applied in other contexts as well. -- Magnus Holmgrenholmg...@debian.org Debian Developer signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.

Re: Configurable debian/control & debian/rules

2009-08-15 Thread Magnus Holmgren
le binary package? It would be useful in some cases, however, to allow one source package to generate more than one binary package by linking against each of a number of mutually conflicting libraries (libkrb5 and heimdal, to name a real example). But that would require quite big changes. -

Re: maybe ITP of lib DomainKeys

2009-08-13 Thread Magnus Holmgren
itable for inclusion in Debian? I created a package some years ago, but abandoned the ITP. See http://bugs.debian.org/352653 for reasons. -- Magnus Holmgrenholmg...@debian.org Debian Developer signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.

Re: Notes from keyring-maint; end of the world not predicted

2009-05-20 Thread Magnus Holmgren
--enable-dsa2 --cert-digest-algo SHA256 or something? Also, does gpg have an option to make it output the hash algorithms of key (ID) signatures? I can't seem to find one. -- Magnus Holmgrenholmg...@debian.org Debian Developer signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.

Re: ignoring the CoC in regards to cc:s

2009-05-09 Thread Magnus Holmgren
On tisdagen den 28 april 2009, Noah Slater wrote: > On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 12:04:05PM +1000, Ben Finney wrote: > > Many of the more popular MUAs on your list have this command already, > > Can you name any others apart from mutt that come with this by default? Kmail is one. --

Re: simultaneous installation lib and lib-mpi

2009-04-26 Thread Magnus Holmgren
changes to how packages are built, but it might still be meaningful to bring it up on -devel, which I've done now. -- Magnus Holmgrenholmg...@debian.org Debian Developer signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.

Game servers in /usr/games or /usr/sbin

2008-11-29 Thread Magnus Holmgren
or the FHS mentions this explicitly, possibly because there are very few such executables. -- Magnus Holmgren[EMAIL PROTECTED] Debian Developer signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.

Bug#504134: ITP: ssvnc -- Enhanced TightVNC viewer with SSL/SSH tunnel helper

2008-10-31 Thread Magnus Holmgren
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Magnus Holmgren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: ssvnc Version : 1.0.20 Upstream Author : Karl J. Runge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://www.karlrunge.com/x11vnc/ssvnc.html * License : GPL 2 Program

Re: Lenny frozen

2008-07-27 Thread Magnus Holmgren
!!! Aw, shoot. Not that it's a good Idea to wait until the last minute, but since you hadn't already done it by noon (CEST), I figured you'd do it right after the next dinstall run. But well, time to squash bugs and get the release out in a jiffy and begin looking forward to the

Re: Debian release versioning

2008-07-13 Thread Magnus Holmgren
On lördagen den 12 juli 2008, martin f krafft wrote: > lenny+0.5 would logically be 5.5 Version strings are *not* floating-point numbers (i.e. e.g. 5.10 follows 5.9). At least that's the school of thought Debian (dpkg --compare-versions) subscribes to with regard to packages. --

Re: tarball in tarball: opinions

2008-07-05 Thread Magnus Holmgren
worked around. You can always use svn-buildpackage --svn-export. -- Magnus Holmgren[EMAIL PROTECTED] Debian Developer signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.

Re: divergence from upstream as a bug

2008-06-21 Thread Magnus Holmgren
On fredagen den 13 juni 2008, Don Armstrong wrote: > On Fri, 13 Jun 2008, Magnus Holmgren wrote: > > The downside is that a bug can't simply be downgraded from fixed to > > patched; it would have to be marked found and patched in the same > > version, but that

Re: divergence from upstream as a bug

2008-06-13 Thread Magnus Holmgren
f a particular version is found to be both patched and fixed, then it is considered fixed. The downside is that a bug can't simply be downgraded from fixed to patched; it would have to be marked found and patched in the same version, but that's hopefully a relatively rare situation. --

Re: Standard to indicate repacking in version numbers?

2008-03-20 Thread Magnus Holmgren
tting a standard for > that couldn't hurt. Whatever the suffix, what do you say about always using '-' as the separator? Remember that hyphens are allowed in upstream versions. Since hyphens are generally used to separate upstream from downstream, it would more clearly indicate

Re: Bug#468183: ITP: monkey -- small webserver based on the HTTP/1.1 protocol

2008-03-01 Thread Magnus Holmgren
g similar packages by pointing out not only the strengths but also the limitations and weaknesses. -- Magnus Holmgren[EMAIL PROTECTED] (No Cc of list mail needed, thanks) signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.

Re: How to deal with bugs from removed packages?

2008-01-27 Thread Magnus Holmgren
should be allowed to stay. Hmm, wouldn't that make Supersedes: a reverse Depends: (or reverse Recommends, if that feels better)? -- Magnus Holmgren[EMAIL PROTECTED] (No Cc of list mail needed, thanks) "Exim is better at being younger, whereas sendmail is b

Re: How to cope with patches sanely (Was: State of the project - input needed)

2008-01-27 Thread Magnus Holmgren
onfig.sub update in package source tree, > though that can be done in debian/rules. I consistently use /usr/share/doc/dpatch/examples/dpatch/01_config.dpatch.gz, do you do that too? -- Magnus Holmgren[EMAIL PROTECTED] (No Cc of list mail needed, thanks

sphinx, sphinx-search -- same thing

2008-01-03 Thread Magnus Holmgren
> deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/pkg-sphinx/ubuntu gutsy main > deb-src http://ppa.launchpad.net/pkg-sphinx/ubuntu gutsy main Monty, Marco, I think you may be working on the same piece of software without being aware of it. Perhaps you can cooperate. -- Magnus Holmgren[EMAIL PROTECTE

Re: New field in binary stanza

2007-12-28 Thread Magnus Holmgren
file format were extended to include this information so that other repositories than the official ones could make these files available in the same manner). -- Magnus Holmgren[EMAIL PROTECTED] (No Cc of list mail needed, thanks) signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.

dpkg-substvars

2007-10-06 Thread Magnus Holmgren
le to use substitution variables in package names. But if we forget about variable package names, wouldn't dpkg-substvars be a good idea? -- Magnus Holmgren[EMAIL PROTECTED] (No Cc of list mail needed, thanks) signature.asc Description: This is a digita

Re: Cleaning out useless debian/changelog entries

2007-10-02 Thread Magnus Holmgren
On tisdagen den 2 oktober 2007, Gaudenz Steinlin wrote: > On Mon, Oct 01, 2007 at 04:47:16PM +0200, Magnus Holmgren wrote: > > I'm taking over a package (pike7.6) that up to when it was orphaned got > > an automated changelog entry each time the upstream build number was &g

Cleaning out useless debian/changelog entries

2007-10-01 Thread Magnus Holmgren
27;m thinking about deleting those which don't correspond to an actual upload to Debian. Would that be acceptable, or is debian/changelog _strictly_ prepend-only? -- Magnus Holmgren[EMAIL PROTECTED] (No Cc of list mail needed, thanks) signature.asc Descrip

Re: Changing name of source package

2007-09-27 Thread Magnus Holmgren
ted, and _that_ part happens automatically. -- Magnus Holmgren[EMAIL PROTECTED] (No Cc of list mail needed, thanks) signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.

dh_install vs. dh_movefiles

2007-09-25 Thread Magnus Holmgren
e must of course make sure that dh_movefiles operates on the packages in the correct order if using deliberately overlapping lists.) I also note that dh_movefiles might do globbing in a different way and that it doesn't actually move files (it copies and then removes the original) -- Magnu

Re: Fwd: Re: Why no Opera?

2007-09-09 Thread Magnus Holmgren
ight. It's their software, they own it, they can do whatever > they like with it. *We* get no say in that matter. On the other hand, Opera isn't asked to make their browser free software _for Debian_, but for their users. Debian is not an end, but a means. -- Magnus Holmgren

Bug#440911: ITP: policyd-spf-fs -- Postfix policy server for SPF checking

2007-09-05 Thread Magnus Holmgren
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Magnus Holmgren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: policyd-spf-fs Version : 0+svn21 Upstream Author : Matthias Cramer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://www.freestone.net/software/policyd-spf-fs/ * License :

Arch-independent parts of binary modules of interpreted languages

2007-08-09 Thread Magnus Holmgren
I'm adopting. There the files are separated, with symlinks from /usr/lib/pike to the corresponding location under /usr/share/pike. -- Magnus Holmgren[EMAIL PROTECTED] (No Cc of list mail needed, thanks) "Exim is better at being younger, whereas sendmail

Re: Installation of Recommends by default on October 1st

2007-08-02 Thread Magnus Holmgren
default. This is not Windows. Here you can configure your software the way you want it. -- Magnus Holmgren[EMAIL PROTECTED] (No Cc of list mail needed, thanks) pgpTwiADkSS75.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Bugs being closed but still outstanding

2007-07-30 Thread Magnus Holmgren
are fixed in *some* version are all categorised as resolved, I think (which I think is usually adequate). -- Magnus Holmgren[EMAIL PROTECTED] (No Cc of list mail needed, thanks) "Exim is better at being younger, whereas sendmail is better for Scrabbl

Re: stupid dependencies on update-inetd

2007-07-29 Thread Magnus Holmgren
On Sunday 29 July 2007 16:22, Magnus Holmgren wrote: > But: AFAIU, /etc/inetd.conf is now owned by any package, because it's used Just to make myself clear: s/now/not/ -- Magnus Holmgren[EMAIL PROTECTED] (No Cc of list mail needed, thanks) "Exim

Re: stupid dependencies on update-inetd

2007-07-29 Thread Magnus Holmgren
configuration is in place. Furthermore, other inet-superservers will want to call update-inetd's update-inetd from their own update-inetd, to facilitate switching from one inet-superserver to another. On the other hand, perhaps that should be the administrator's decision: If they d

Re: Bug#434651: debian-policy: New virtual package: wims-extra

2007-07-25 Thread Magnus Holmgren
ckage names list. There is an exception in policy for virtual package names used "privately, amongst a cooperating group of packages", which the wims and wims-related packages seem to be. -- Magnus Holmgren[EMAIL PROTECTED] (No Cc of list mail needed,

Re: update-inetd don't update xinetd.conf

2007-07-24 Thread Magnus Holmgren
On Monday 23 July 2007 18:47, Marco d'Itri wrote: > On Jul 23, Magnus Holmgren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Packages containing servers that can be started from inetd should all > > provide an xinetd configuration file in /etc/xinetd.d. They will > > instantly

Re: update-inetd don't update xinetd.conf

2007-07-23 Thread Magnus Holmgren
2/msg00446.html http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2006/08/msg01265.html -- Magnus Holmgren[EMAIL PROTECTED] (No Cc of list mail needed, thanks) pgpbA7JJO5e22.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: RFH: Removals - outstanding bugs need to be analysed

2007-07-20 Thread Magnus Holmgren
On Friday 20 July 2007 12:19, Don Armstrong wrote: > On Fri, 20 Jul 2007, Magnus Holmgren wrote: > > It would be nice, I think, if the BTS would automatically notice > > when a package has been removed from unstable and annotate the bugs > > appropriately. > > It actu

Re: RFH: Removals - outstanding bugs need to be analysed

2007-07-20 Thread Magnus Holmgren
happen, of course. -- Magnus Holmgren[EMAIL PROTECTED] (No Cc of list mail needed, thanks) "Exim is better at being younger, whereas sendmail is better for Scrabble (50 point bonus for clearing your rack)" -- Dave Evans pgpbFaTSRYi4I.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: RFH: Removals - outstanding bugs need to be analysed

2007-07-20 Thread Magnus Holmgren
nk, if the BTS would automatically notice when a package has been removed from unstable and annotate the bugs appropriately. It can happen that a dead package chooses to walk the earth again, can't it (not in these cases, but in some)? -- Magnus Holmgren[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Bug#433812: ITP: pssh -- Parallel versions of the OpenSSH tools

2007-07-19 Thread Magnus Holmgren
gt; example, I use these tools on a fairly routine basis on > PlanetLab to control hundreds of machines spread around the > world." Um, but what does it *do*? Answer: http://www.theether.org/pssh/docs/0.2.3/pssh-HOWTO.html#AEN38 -- Magnus Holmgren[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: adding desktop files to misc packages

2007-07-18 Thread Magnus Holmgren
read .desktop files directly; there is no need to convert them into .menu files first (and really no reason to convert .menu to .desktop either). -- Magnus Holmgren[EMAIL PROTECTED] (No Cc of list mail needed, thanks) "Exim is better at being younger, wherea

Re: adding desktop files to misc packages

2007-07-14 Thread Magnus Holmgren
bly be moved to the top level, decreasing the depth by one for Apps even there, and leave the level of the relatively few other entries the same, or maybe in some cases increased by one. -- Magnus Holmgren[EMAIL PROTECTED] (No Cc of list mail needed, thanks) pgpjZhQH0G5DU.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Package

2007-06-23 Thread Magnus Holmgren
AIL PROTECTED] code is free (as is the BOINC client itself), for example, and in that case it's possible to package an optimized version. Otherwise the BOINC client automatically downloads the right executable. -- Magnus Holmgren [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Using standardized SI prefixes

2007-06-19 Thread Magnus Holmgren
courage yet > other people to fix things that aren't broken. But things *are* broken. >>> How about using these prefixes to unambiguously refer to powers of 10? >>> kdkidi10^3 >> >> Like in kidigram and medameter? What comes next, midroutopicans? >

Re: Using standardized SI prefixes

2007-06-19 Thread Magnus Holmgren
might be "3.2 GB", which is *not* a substitute for "3.2 GiB". Do you not agree that rounding can be done to more than one significant digit? -- Magnus Holmgren -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Using standardized SI prefixes

2007-06-16 Thread Magnus Holmgren
rally evolved, everyday word, which has *not* been universally defined (the well-defined, scientific term would instead be lat. _Mus_ for the genus or _Mus musculus_ for the species known as the common house mouse). -- Magnus Holmgren [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Using standardized SI prefixes

2007-06-13 Thread Magnus Holmgren
o oversimplify facts and information to the point where > "everyone" understands it, (If this happens they DO NOT understand it; > they are given the illusion of understanding) or whether to educate > the public. I am very convinced the correct solution is always to > ed

Re: Using standardized SI prefixes

2007-06-13 Thread Magnus Holmgren
of these > help the situation. The 1 440 KiB floppy is dead. Let it rest in pieces. The fact that a marketing department screwed up long ago by thinking that 1 440 kB equals 1.44 MB, which it would have done, had that really *been* 1 440 kB and not 1 440 KiB, is not a case against IEC prefixe

Re: Using standardized SI prefixes

2007-06-13 Thread Magnus Holmgren
t in base 2. -- Magnus Holmgren[EMAIL PROTECTED] (No Cc of list mail needed, thanks) "Exim is better at being younger, whereas sendmail is better for Scrabble (50 point bonus for clearing your rack)" -- Dave Evans pgppaW9Zr6ibG.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Using standardized SI prefixes

2007-06-12 Thread Magnus Holmgren
ts. I think it's to a big extent just a matter of getting used to them. Do you have anything to add that hasn't already been said? -- Magnus Holmgren[EMAIL PROTECTED] (No Cc of list mail needed, thanks) pgpSvfcE221IF.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Using standardized SI prefixes

2007-06-12 Thread Magnus Holmgren
On Tuesday 12 June 2007 15:46, Magnus Holmgren wrote: > On Tuesday 12 June 2007 14:57, Darren Salt wrote: > > I demand that Josselin Mouette may or may not have written... > > > > [snip] > > > > > When I use a computer program, I don't want to wond

Re: Using standardized SI prefixes

2007-06-12 Thread Magnus Holmgren
On Tuesday 12 June 2007 15:36, Adam Borowski wrote: > On Tue, Jun 12, 2007 at 02:36:55PM +0200, Magnus Holmgren wrote: > > On Tuesday 12 June 2007 14:09, Adam Borowski wrote: > > > English linguistic is a descriptive science -- what is correct and what > > > is not

Re: Using standardized SI prefixes

2007-06-12 Thread Magnus Holmgren
te), and 1 kbyte is exactly 1000 byte (can't be expressed exactly as a decimal fraction in Kibyte, because 0.1 Kibyte is a non-integral number of bytes). Hence, having two sets of prefixes to choose from depending on what fits best is the best option. -- Magnus Holmgren[EMAIL P

Re: Using standardized SI prefixes

2007-06-12 Thread Magnus Holmgren
r "kibibyte" and 1.5 million hits for "kilobyte". That's about 4%, not 0.3%. In fact, it's sufficiently widespread to earn a place in dictionaries, IMHO. -- Magnus Holmgren[EMAIL PROTECTED] (No Cc of list mail needed, thanks) pgpO8OlDyVBEq.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Using standardized SI prefixes

2007-06-12 Thread Magnus Holmgren
prefixes (in which case you can be pretty sure that if it *says* kB, they it *means* kB) and/or clearly documents the change (e.g. in a legend). So, just because some developers *might* do things wrong, that doesn't mean it will surely happen. -- Magnus Holmgren[EMAIL PROTECTED] (No Cc of list mail needed, thanks) pgp8O7rhl7WEV.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Using standardized SI prefixes

2007-06-12 Thread Magnus Holmgren
On Tuesday 12 June 2007 08:54, Miles Bader wrote: > Magnus Holmgren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> No it doesn't. > >> > >> The "SI binary prefixes" are an abomination. > > > > Why - besides pronunciation? > > Well amon

Re: Using standardized SI prefixes

2007-06-12 Thread Magnus Holmgren
you only have to say kibibyte when you need to be precise. -- Magnus Holmgren[EMAIL PROTECTED] (No Cc of list mail needed, thanks) pgpEKOaSzboZ9.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Using standardized SI prefixes

2007-06-12 Thread Magnus Holmgren
On Tuesday 12 June 2007 08:44, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: > On Tue, Jun 12, 2007 at 08:36:39AM +0200, Magnus Holmgren wrote: > > That's an argument that's been heard before but it's *wrong*. SI prefixes > > *are* used with non-SI units without losing their normal mean

Re: Using standardized SI prefixes

2007-06-11 Thread Magnus Holmgren
and there is no reason why bytes should be an exception. Since kilo has always meant 1000, kilobyte must initially have meant 1000 bytes, before people started to use it as if to mean 1024. There is confusion; hard drive manufacturers' advertising material is not the only place where kilobyte

Re: Using standardized SI prefixes

2007-06-11 Thread Magnus Holmgren
t, i.e. IEC prefixes have to be rejected for not being a perfect solution. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perfect_solution_fallacy > I don't like those Special Interest units in all situations ;) SI units aren't special. They are universal. -- Magnus Holmgren[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Using standardized SI prefixes

2007-06-11 Thread Magnus Holmgren
f 2 except if logarithmic scale for the bar graphs is turned on. I think it would be better if it used powers of 10 throughout. There is a comment: /* This 1024 vs 1000 stuff is just plain evil */ None of these put a space between the number and the unit, as is proper, but that I don't think can

Re: Using standardized SI prefixes

2007-06-11 Thread Magnus Holmgren
On Monday 11 June 2007 21:41, Joey Hess wrote: > Alex Queiroz wrote: > > On 6/11/07, Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >No, I hate that convention. K and k should only ever refer to 1024. > > > > Like in kg or km? > > This thread is about units

Re: Using standardized SI prefixes

2007-06-11 Thread Magnus Holmgren
On Monday 11 June 2007 21:25, Joey Hess wrote: > Magnus Holmgren wrote: > > You seem to fancy the K-is-1024--k-is-1000 convention > > No, I hate that convention. K and k should only ever refer to 1024. In that case you're just sloppy. Prefixes and symbols for units

Re: Using standardized SI prefixes

2007-06-11 Thread Magnus Holmgren
On Monday 11 June 2007 15:07, shirish wrote: > Ugh, >The second example I wanted to give was of libburnia > http://libburnia-project.org/changeset/877 . Sorry Uh, tell them that kiB should be KiB. Don't ask me why. -- Magnus Holmgren[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Using standardized SI prefixes

2007-06-11 Thread Magnus Holmgren
ding the "B" or "iB" in the field above would > solve a real question. In many cases the difference is insignificant. It's the consistent use of IEC vs SI units everywhere that give the big benefits. Since the effort needed to convert a piece of software is in the vast

Re: Using standardized SI prefixes

2007-06-11 Thread Magnus Holmgren
s > throughout the distribution as we do standadising the spelling of > "colo[u]r" or "standardi[sz]e" throughout the distribution. If everybody waits for somebody else to change first, then no change can ever happen. -- Magnus Holmgren[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Using standardized SI prefixes

2007-06-11 Thread Magnus Holmgren
On Monday 11 June 2007 18:53, Miles Bader wrote: > shirish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > It isn't just ubuntu or debian but this needs to be done > > everywhere. > > No it doesn't. > > The "SI binary prefixes" are an abominatio

Re: Using standardized SI prefixes

2007-06-11 Thread Magnus Holmgren
t ? > It isn't just ubuntu or debian but this needs to be done > everywhere. Have something accurate. I'm in favour! (But are you requesting that aptitude use SI prefixes correctly, or that it use IEC (binary) prefixes? -- Magnus Holmgren pgpaVIzYUqkyh.pgp Description: PGP signature

Transitional packages

2007-06-10 Thread Magnus Holmgren
packages or other cases where no real functionality is lost by not immediately upgrading? I'm not talking about a situation where a main package changes its dependency on the old package name to the new package name, thereby causing the transition to take place. -- Magnus Holmgren[

Re: dh_installman problems

2007-06-10 Thread Magnus Holmgren
, you must have misread the dh_installman manpage. You have to tell dh_installman which manpages to install in which package, then dh_installman looks at the .TH lines of those manpages and determines what sections to put them in. -- Magnus Holmgren[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Plugin API/ABI versions

2007-06-03 Thread Magnus Holmgren
On Saturday 02 June 2007 14:58, Ben Hutchings wrote: > On Fri, 2007-06-01 at 18:03 +0200, Magnus Holmgren wrote: > > Many applications allow their functionality to be extended by means of > > plugins, often in the form of libraries that the application dlopen()s. > > Us

Plugin API/ABI versions

2007-06-01 Thread Magnus Holmgren
fferent symbol to be referenced comes to mind. What else, if symbols aren't versioned? -- Magnus Holmgren[EMAIL PROTECTED] (No Cc of list mail needed, thanks) pgpCQBuAd0W6k.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Source package taking over removed package's place in the namespace

2007-05-31 Thread Magnus Holmgren
On Thursday 31 May 2007 14:32, Adam D. Barratt wrote: > Magnus Holmgren wrote, Thursday, May 31, 2007 1:04 PM > > > Situation: Two source packages collide in the namespace. The second > > one gets rather awkward name. Later, the first package dies and is > > removed fro

Source package taking over removed package's place in the namespace

2007-05-31 Thread Magnus Holmgren
ns in oldstable. Question: Can the second source package take the first source package's (less awkward) name, or does it have to wait until oldstable is archived? Concrete example: lsh/lsh-utils (see bug 340354). -- Magnus Holmgren[EMAIL PROTECTED] (No Cc of

Re: svn-buildpackage etc., mergeWithUpstream, and dpatch/quilt/cdbs again

2007-05-17 Thread Magnus Holmgren
On Wednesday 16 May 2007 14:52, Marcus Better wrote: > Magnus Holmgren wrote: > > Now, how do you combine these? Several people have thought: "The VCS > > can handle the changesets. Putting patches under VCS is silly!" > > I fully agree. Unfortunately Subversion do

Re: svn-buildpackage etc., mergeWithUpstream, and dpatch/quilt/cdbs again

2007-05-16 Thread Magnus Holmgren
ut the end result is a normal .diff.gz, meaning that everyone else has to use stgit too to get all the benefits, right? -- Magnus Holmgren[EMAIL PROTECTED] (No Cc of list mail needed, thanks) pgpce1QkD9DWi.pgp Description: PGP signature

svn-buildpackage etc., mergeWithUpstream, and dpatch/quilt/cdbs again

2007-05-16 Thread Magnus Holmgren
n patches. This should work well with the new W&P source package format, and you get the best of both worlds. Maybe some of this is already possible? -- Magnus Holmgren[EMAIL PROTECTED] (No Cc of list mail needed, thanks) pgpUUCyXgLchh.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Planned DebPool features

2007-04-21 Thread Magnus Holmgren
easonable? But I agree that one of the pages should be renamed, if only to make capitalization consistent. -- Magnus Holmgren[EMAIL PROTECTED] (No Cc of list mail needed, thanks) pgpkA1x3ZIwuO.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Using dpkg-statoverride

2007-04-18 Thread Magnus Holmgren
in the package each time the package is upgraded. http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-files.html#s10.9 -- Magnus Holmgren[EMAIL PROTECTED] (No Cc of list mail needed, thanks) pgpcUKFMrobgk.pgp Description: PGP signature

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