Does anyone know if Raul Miller is active ?
I and others have looked for him a bit.
He took over pdl from me a couple years ago. I'd like
to get it back (if he wants to get rid of it, of
course). I sent a mail a few days ago and didn't
hear anything.
Thanks, John
*Martin Michlmayr wrote:
> Below is a listing of packages needing a new maintainer. I know that
In case someone wants to pick up a package, I'll note which packages (of mine)
I think are likely to have some reasonably sized user base. Some
others may be popular too, I just don't know about the
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be shipped. But I can't see how you can argue
that our only stable product should not be able to run on most new machines.
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very sorry to
have wasted the time of your security team. Maybe you can avoid further
waste of time, by accepting my retraction of accusations and realizing that
now there is no evidence and no accusation of a security problem, and
therefore, no reason to take action on a suspected security pr
h>> I'm probably thinking too far ahead right now, though...
hamish>
hamish>Why would you install the package (which presumably includes
hamish>configuration) and then immediately reconfigure it?
I often make a mistake during configuration and then want to
reconfigur
ernel, and the source size is not
too big. I never use the debian source packages; there are probably
additional technical issues.
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to put
together a working system. 11 kernels is probably too much, but a couple
of each might be OK. We (someone !) could also package the patches, which
is a bit more of a pain for the user, but we could get all 12 new kernels
without adding so much bulk to the archive.
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On Fri, 17 Sep 1999, Chris Rutter wrote:
chris>On Thu, 16 Sep 1999, John Lapeyre wrote:
chris>
chris>> The 2.0.37 and 2.2.x kernels keep hanging on my AMD K6-2.
chris>
chris>This sounds *bad*, BTW; have you checked around to see if anyone
chris>else has had these kinds of f
On Fri, 17 Sep 1999, Herbert Xu wrote:
herber>On Thu, Sep 16, 1999 at 10:57:54AM -0700, John Lapeyre wrote:
herber>Try
herber>
herber>make "CC=gcc272 -D__KERNEL__ -I`pwd`/include" zImage
I love this man !
Well, I had tried messing around with the /include fi
On Thu, 16 Sep 1999, Herbert Xu wrote:
herber>John Lapeyre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
herber>>
herber>> Hmm. Well my two potato systems are slightly different. One just
herber>> compiled 2.0.36 with the patch. But the other one failed with the
herber>> messa
On Thu, 16 Sep 1999, Chris Rutter wrote:
chris>On Thu, 16 Sep 1999, John Lapeyre wrote:
chris>
chris>>The link to suse doesn't work at the moment, but I'll give it a try.
chris>> The blurb at cygnus does not look encouraging. I think it is claiming
chris>
On Thu, 16 Sep 1999, Chris Rutter wrote:
chris>On Thu, 16 Sep 1999, John Lapeyre wrote:
chris>
chris>>Is it possible to build 2.0.x kernels under a reasonable
chris>> potato build environment ? I tried "make CC=gcc272", but
chris>> I still get failures f
The
2.0.x kernels do fine in the same situation.
I tried to find this issue in the archives, but did not find
much.
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Well here is a little good press...
http://cgi.pathfinder.com/time/personal/19990524/tech.html
Says,
Caldera Makers of OpenLinux.
Debian High-quality volunteer Linux.
Linux Pro Corporate-aimed implementation from WorkGroup Solutions.
*Marek Habersack wrote:
> Yes, yes. But you won't be able to use perl with C++ libraries.
If you use the C interface to the C++ libraries, and reimplement OO
in perl, yes you can. And the C++ wrapping has improved to the point that
people are using it directly for some projects.
g on ?
>
> The only contributions to our packaging systems today are done with C++
> (apt), and perl (install methods).
>
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erested in making headlines for Debian because
> we actually accomplished something cool rather than making them just to
> make the average Slashdot reader think that Debian is as good as Redhat.
A couple of salaried positions would be nice. Full time PR
staff, ...
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rk for
it. If enough (like Manoj) don't care, then we won't get commercial support
and recognition. It's probably OK either way. They can't drive us out of
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I really like the how-to-install-gnome page. Other packages that could
use similar pages are X, emacs, and communicator. I and people I have
talked to can get confused trying to decide which packages to download
and install.
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Tuc
ounce that here to. This
> is to prevent others from possibly investigating the source with an
> eye towards taking over maintenance.
I thought the same thing. An announcement of change of
maintainership is appropriate for this list.
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ibICE.so.6: undefined reference
to _sigjmp_save'
/usr/lib/libc5-compat/libICE.so.6: undefined reference to
_setjmp'
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machine and installed from them. For a
single machine it is relatively painless.
John
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ed
> or was a "god it would be nice"
Is the debugging info necessary ? I wonder if it slows things down.
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ly. I even improved the perl version
and ruby still won.
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rate, I predict that, perl will be uploaded, dependent packages will be
uploaded, and then months will pass before the release, during which time,
the perl problem will be fixed and forgotten.
( I suggest keeping this message so you can repost it when it is
found that perl 5.005 has destroyed t
d with this statement. AFAIK,
no tentative freeze date has been set. Also, the problem of how to
introduce the new package has been debated since before the slink freeze.
It is apparantly a difficult problem. I imagine that, if the problem is
solved before the freeze, perl 5.005 will be insta
There have been several packages allowed into main with
a license like this. Some people don't like it however. Perl's
license is even slightly more restricive. Except that now it
can be licensed under the GPL as well.
From: John Lapeyre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 2
ftp1.us.debian.org now has everything to install all the gnome stuff
libgtop0 is there too.
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Enrique Zanardi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Sun, Jan 24, 1999 at 01:32:28PM -0700, John Lapeyre wrote:
> >
> > I guess I should add this to my last post about how bad the
> > installation is. The boot floppies themselves and apt are quite good.
> > G
expensive modem link. I guess I don't care too much about
the cachet of having 2.2 in slink. I wonder if we'll put
2.4 in slink
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I guess I should add this to my last post about how bad the
installation is. The boot floppies themselves and apt are quite good.
Getting the base system on is easy for someone who knows what is going on.
Probably not for a beginner.
John Lapeyre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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good idea, because a
full time employee could do quite a bit for the installation process
in a few months, and contribute back to the project.
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symbolic links referencing the shared library.
N:
N: Refer to Packaging Manual, chapter 12 for details.
N:
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On Thu, 15 Oct 1998, Stephen Crowley wrote:
crow>That is ridiculous, there is no reason to remove gnome before the freeze,
if you
FWIW, one of the slashdot commenters on the slink-freeze, commends
slink for including gnome ( he did install the packages, too) .
John Lapeyre <
FAQ-O-MATIC !
(Excuse my yelling, I just wanted to advertise ;) )
Why don't you put an entry in this nice, underutilized tool.
And reward Mr. Grobman for his effort.
See:
http://www.debian.org/fom/1.html
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sappeared (!).
This is characteristic of reading and writing outside of array
bounds. (as determined by malloc)
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smb2www 27641 perl 5.005-02 breaks smb2www [0] (Craig Small
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>)
This one also refers to the version of perl which has been
removed. (It broke every module, so there are several such bug reports)
John Lapeyre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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torin>>5.00[34], of course).
torin>
torin>That's good enough for me. I have boatloads of respect for Andy and his
torin>understanding of Perl Install issues. That's how it will be for
torin>5.005.02-3.
Good, I think that will cause the least problems for
On Sat, 10 Oct 1998, Shaya Potter wrote:
spotte>
spotte>-Original Message-
spotte>From: John Lapeyre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
spotte>
spotte>> Lyx is currently in contrib.
spotte>> Lyx is licensed under the GPL (version 2) . It is dynamically
spotte>&
ew incarnation of yorick, which is
already packaged
John
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is no canvas widget. (I don't know if lyx uses
one) The fltk author says that he is not working towards compatibility
with forms.
I can't get through to the site now to get the exact statement.
John Lapeyre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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r/doc/lyx/copyright definitly says that it is distributed
under the GPL.
John Lapeyre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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) of
Lyx. For instance, these binaries use .h files from libforms.
Unlike KDE, it may be all original code, so that a single change
of license from the developers will do.
Am I missing something ?
John
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ieces of GPL code. To
do it right, you need to get each copyright holder licensing her code
under GPL to allow the code to be distributed under another license, ie,
the GPL+caveat. If you have a lot of code and a lot of sources, this
could be a PITA.
John
John Lapeyre <[
On 10 Oct 1998, Ole J. Tetlie wrote:
olet>*-John Lapeyre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
olet>|
olet>| Perl 5.004 was in Incoming yesterday. You can get it from a
olet>| mirror of incoming or wait a day or two and it will be installed.
olet>
olet>I can only find the orig source pac
(Brian White)
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perl, a
feature that debian is not interested in.
Why they (perl guys) did not leave /usr/lib/perl5 in the search
path is not clear to me. Perhaps because they assume that othe modules
will install in site_perl or local. But systems with package managers,
like ours don't use these dirs.
eeze back a couple of weeks.
John
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opment strategy, it would be good to hear from them. I don't know if
the perl people really expect everyone to redo the 'perl Makefile.PL ... '
process for every perl package evertime perl is upgraded, but it certainly
looks that way.
John Lapeyre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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ems
silly to require that they be rebuilt.
I posted a message on perl5-porters asking for advice. We need to
set a policy quickly, as quite a bit of slink has just become unstable.
(Unfortunatley, I was using slink for daily science work. I don't have two
machines.)
John
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nted to make extra-special sure before I dig into my perl
packages, some of which need help bad in any case.
John
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x27;t come because its not a bug.
btw. Looks like some really cool stuff in the new perl.
John
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On Tue, 6 Oct 1998, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
rhertz>Well it doesn't work out of the box as I expected it. First the
rhertz>@INC isn't correct, it doesn't contain /usr/lib/perl5. Please
rhertz>Darren can you correct it ?
I downloaded the upstream source. It looks like the omission of
/usr/li
ackage ? Thanks.
John
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hough some path-related bugs are
introduced.
John
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-1_i386.deb
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and what you-all are talking about,... but
doesn't policy require compiling with -g and then stripping ? Last time I
read the policy manual, this was the case.
John
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in
the
Galbra>path.
I have built packages and uploaded them to main only to find later
that they depend on non-free libraries that appeared free when I found
them on the web page. (note that when the lib later shows up as a
dependency, it is listed as non-free) .
John Lapeyre <[EM
going non-free, but
there is a September 23 release which is still under the GPL .
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h is nearly drop-in
gsstar>compatible with libforms.
I was under the impression that it was not really a drop in
replacement. But I see that you are the maintainer... I guess I can give
it a try.
John
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License: GPL
tochnog is a finite element analysis program.
http://info.uibk.ac.at/c/c8/c813/tn_release/tnhome.html
The author calls the executable 'tn' . I should probably change
this to 'tochnog' or 'tng' or something.
xstab.html
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m not to do too much at once.
A working GUI couldn't hurt in any case (unless it's buggy and
trashes systems !) 15 days of testing isn't much.
John
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rtition. But because of relative links pointing back up to '/',
this is impossible. I hope there is a good reason for using relative
links, because as it is , /usr must be on the same partition as '/' , or
else consist of an entire partition.
John Lapeyre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]&g
to get the floppy controller on an IO board to function yet
(tried three IO boards) , tried everything I could think of. Does anyone
have experience with this?
John
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> hdparm -v /dev/hdb
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OK, I was wrong , its happening now with 2.0.33 too. However, its
happening to all three ide drives. I'd better figure it out fast
On Wed, 24 Jun 1998, Christian Meder wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 24, 1998 at 12:24:52AM -0700, G John Lapeyre wrote:
> > A typical er
46, sector
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If lurkftp is killed and started again (happens alot) it gets
everything that it already got again, even though its supposed to compare
with the local tree. Tell me if I am missing something, otherwise, I'll
file a bug.
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ntric opinions on this list.
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oning it again after more experience.
I'm not complaining, just suggesting. In the meantime, I've used
apt to easily upgrade many times and hundreds of packages.
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be the floppies were bad...) He'll
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Does anyone have hamm CD's to sell yet ? I have a friend in Paris
who wants to install on a laptop. I'd hate to see him go RH. I think he
has a network card. Maybe apt and a remote archive works pretty well now
for installing ?
John
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I found the entire kernel/hw clock issue quite confusing. (eg ,
when to use the uct flag ) The man pages help a little. A clock howto
would be quite helpful.
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quot;. Maybe finer granularity would do it, but I don't
> know what are the consequences of that. Perhaps I don't quite realise the
> problem :)
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> Sasha.
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e 2.0.33 package are added.
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> Also has anyone packaged the Real Time linux kernel mods and utilities?
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libgdbm.so.1 => /usr/lib/libgdbm.so.1 (0x40015000)
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broke a lot of stuff)
On Fri, 5 Jun 1998, G John Lapeyre wrote:
>
> I sent a message to the maintainer , but haven't heard back.
> Is this something broken on my system ? I tried forcing removal
> of all my tetex packages and reinstalling.
> I get this whe
onfig: No $TEXMFMAIN; set the environment variable or in
texmf.cnf.
dpkg: error processing tetex-bin (--configure):
subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
Errors were encountered while processing:
tetex-bin
E: Sub-process returned an error code
homey 55 >
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John
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th an editor.
It's also not uncommon to see config files which just contain perl
code. (Majordomo comes to mind) . Probably python programs do this too.
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On Tue, 2 Jun 1998, Javier Fernandez-Sanguino Pen~a wrote:
>
> What are the main differences/advantages/disadvantages of
> Debian's Packaging System vs The Other Guys (tm) ?
>
> I would appreciate any help in sorting these out (I already have
So woul
There is no possiblity that urgent bugs could arise in my packages
(because the packages are marginal) . But if the impossible happens,
please feel free to upload a fix.
John
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Does anyone know if something official is released? I have only
seen the irc transcript on slashdot.
John
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lator (samuel), a programming language (induce) and
a program to factorize integers (factorint).
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Otherwise apt is impressive. When I show someone how it quietly
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> perfect. But sometimes it is helpful. What are the pros and cons of this
> kind of an approach?
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n't see an
obvious fix to the runaway problem. Luis fixed some bugs and worked on
internationalization. Luis should be thanked for making any progress at
all.
(btw, I looked at master a few days ago and couln't find the new
tcsh in incoming , nor in hamm , I'll have another
ling to do that
because we appreciate the magnitude of the work of some of the key
players. I hope Ch. is not leaving because of losing one battle (maybe
its more).
( I am not taking sides on the number-of-maintainers-per-package
issue, or on the how-to-challenge-policy-issue. Those
o produce it. Also I think I sent instructions on how to get it
to occur under gdb (I had to use the 'attach' command) .
John
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. Strict rules and route for
appeals for flexibility is the way to go. Rules are the only central
authority holding things together. (Who holds the power to make rules is
another matter.)
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non-essential crap on this list ....... (!)
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good publicity for Debian.
> The awards page is at http://linux.miningco.com/library/awards/blapr98.htm
Looks like they've put a good deal of effort into their site. I
don't know who made the ratings(has good taste, I imagine) ... but notice
Debian is the #1 site, while no other
ckage may have deleted ,
but I didn't . Looks like two things are broken, whatever deleted or
didn't install that file, and update-menus for not working when it's
missing.
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deb) ...
Setting up fvwmconf (0.18-1) ...
Update-menus: waiting for dpkg to finish (forking to background)
Update-menus: (checking /var/lib/dpkg/lock)
homey 6 > Cannot open file /etc/X11/mwm//system.mwmrc-menu
/etc/menu-methods//mwm-menumethod: Aborting
John Lapeyre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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for keeping it out of the archive).
This discussion has come up several times in the nine months that
I've been reading this list. It looks like the time is arriving for
(someone with tons of time) splitting the archive in some way.
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long, mail me
John
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