revious
posts.
I think your singling me out.
Ben Hutchings wrote:
On Mon, 2013-05-13 at 21:53 -0400, John D. Hendrickson and Sara Darnell
wrote:
I'm complaining.
Why are you fixing something that isn't broken and isn't an issue ?
It's not broken, but there is an issue:
As I did you.
You all are WAY late with a new Debian that isn't chalk full of problems.
And you are dead wrong. I am not the only one who posts disagreements
with posts. For example: Paul Wise often disagrees with ill
alterations to Debian.
I don't like what's going on with the continual b
Yea? When are you filing a patch that corrects it?
complaining does nothing. we all know what would be
better and move toward it
and your forgetting the by-law: you don't fix what
you think is better by breaking software that works
unless you can really prevent all breakage
after all. what y
I'm complaining.
Why are you fixing something that isn't broken and isn't an issue ?
Are you trying to cause problems with free software?
Are you playing favorites?
It's too new to say if it has no long term problems (ie, such as
support issues).
How is shipping (ie kernel) in all three of .gz
I'm not an admin but I'm interested in ADDUSER breakage, if any.
Could you side-band me (reply to sender please) why adduser may have
any (new) dependancy problems with adduser ? Obviously hacks that
break adduser imply breakage to other softwares in or not in debian,
which "supposedly agains
REALLY? you have 30 days to return it. if you want unix and
touchscreen get an Apple.
don't use debian haphazardously (without knowing full well what can
happen / if it will work) thinking you'll save time or money. that's
not what linux is for. doing so could easily leave you no-where, ev
Check /var/log/XFree86.0.log and look for startup errors and ask
in a normal user channel.
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Make sure X (X11R6, X.org) supports the graphics hardware you run
and also see if it's in Debian's harware list. you might consider
returning it if they all say no.
I haven't heard of external
Absolutely rediculous.
Prove Adobe did not give up rights by contributing them years ago.
Prove Adobe did not give up rights by ignoring > 7 years.
Prove Adobe did not use these as a way to sell more fonts CD to Linux
users.
* Prove you even have legal say or int
Who said LSB requires insserv ? verify this. Um ... LSB requires everything I write too ! :)
Riight???!
But innserv makes a good effort to be compatible - so that end should be ok.
The LSB requires support for LSB init scripts; LSB init scripts have LSB
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Oh sorry. I saw BSD MIT not glibc. And I've never heard a complaint about GPL. Kernigan / Ritche
wrote C I can't think you'd ever erase that however :) Pascal might be more!
While cygwin may have a "suite" they are a private company I wouldn't bet to dl and use it without a
lawyer reading a
Hi I'm not a DD but ...
I thought on Gnu site if you get and compile the compiler it already has a test suite, for C anyway
(i have not tried it personally).
Peter Miller wrote:
Hi Folks,
I'm looking for a Standard C Library compliance test suite. I'd prefer
an open source one, preferably
Hi, I like dselect, dpkg, and aptitude. I have a request. aptitude should
import and export
/var/lib/dpkg/status
At least when asked. Right now aptitude takes awkwardly and but doesn't give
back.
It's not just private selections. Private methods and worse pivate status make other
please excuse. my post days ago may have sounded like "downing systemd"
however my power supply failed i could not correct myself :)
my feeling is "it is neat - as long as its not integrated where I must use it" (same as I said for
dbus). and I think it's great d
I also fail to see how upstart or systemd add anything new while they obscure or delete previous
good work (by suggesting init(1) is to be deleted).
Is init not a timeless thing unworthy to plot the removal of ?
why
Can they not figure out how init(1) works ? Doe
OMG !! No wonder and sorry !!
Yes I clicked "reply" only pop open the window ... not realizing anyone uses [X]-UID checking
anymore (ms mailers used to ignore it, ISPs here demanded to serve all mail w/ms servers, ...)
I was "mis-instructed" by another and didn't see that in the manual either
what's the deal?
grub2 won't install on an HD (one newer pc yes, 2 others no)
grub-rescue doesn't work without "xorisso" (i don't mkisofs scripts anymore, no
CD drive thanks)
I want grub2 on floopy. where are debian's instructions or FAQ for it please?
I see allot of internet questions onlin
Maybe put it in "non-free" is a good idea. That's all I really meant...
reply to comments...
Philip Ashmore wrote:
You forgot to mention DCE.
Absolutely not, RPC is from unix, and I didn't mean to be all inclusive. But
thank you for caring.
And I don't believe Microsoft's code for DCE ma
DCOM's package description. DCOM's danger.
I studied Microsoft's DCOM. It's a lesser hack of Sun Java technology (which Microsoft patently
attempted to steal, hide, and destroy). Object interfacing. (ie, apple's corba) It came out
predictably much later than Java.
While I think it's grea
Correcting myself! sorry. not sure anyone cares. I said "make deb-pkg"
didn't leave me any .deb **
"make deb-pkg" did make 4 .deb packages. they are in "$(srctree)/../", and one
I tried is good.
"make tar-pkg" leaves it in "$(srctree)/" and I'm still unsure how i would know to look in ".."
in reply to darkestkhan
Thank you very much for even showing concern about root=, uuid, newbies, lk README. I was
commenting on [improvements] that may dis-courage newbies for lack of howto.
Sorry this is long but it is work I can't do again later. I spent a good hour searching google and
Is that Overture / U.S. tax funded stuff? Object-Oriented Tools for Solving PDEs in Complex
Geometries ?
Is it better than Maxima or Octave with PDE's or graphing? Does one need to CAD a whole simulation
in Overture specific format to get a "dynamic" sol'n (paid for / sought)?
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#1 If I use ./linux-2.6.38/README I get errors (see below).
If I use ./linux-2.4.20/README I get a [good] kernel.
#2 Nowhere can I find "root=/dev/hdax" needs to be "root=/dev/sdax" due to new SATA changes in
driver code. Others have reported this. I found it by accident! (see error below)
Josselin Mouette is apparently easily amused.
He harasses me every time I use debian-devel mailing list, apparently automaticall (which is illegal
in my country - though for now it's ok).
Josselin Mouette wrote:
> Or in legacy; I've read about wishes of their own patent problems,
> capice? B
CMOV, quick comment.
Many apps don't reliably optimize -O3. CMOV saves 1 clock + 1 dword. There far lower branches to
pick for debian to grow on (unless it's like req. to drive androids or real important).
(note CMOV is not Ben's agenda as far as I have read. I say nothing there but
good l
Ben's right if he needs it, 386 has many interesting img and tfpt alternatives. Down the road,
maybe again. ahh those 386 days!
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my mistake. (an "install old libs" thing? an incompat lib mod should be a new
major ver)
Philipp Kern wrote:
~ Lack of IPv6 support is only critical if it causes data loss (like with
libspf,
By itself it's not a reason for removal, especially as we're not talking about ~
Kind regards
Philipp
From: john hendrickson
Josselin your response is obstructive rather than productive.
If you have a vested interest in obstructed Debian you must make that known in
the outset, capice?
Josselin Mouette wrote:
Or in legacy; I've read about wishes of their own patent problems,
capice? But ads
"If timidity doesn't get IPv6 support soon" ?
I don't see IPv6 as important. It's a major maintenance burden (a hack to firewall, configure,
...), IPSs use it to dominate ISP sales, and so far no one claims to have a final spec on it.
when is IPv4 over IPv6 a sin? are bsd sockets a sin (they
not that i'm multi-lingual (i use google to translate!)
don't we get all .mo avail. in packages already? (i hope)
# locate "*.mo" | wc
13341 13341 648305
... and if build/tar admins say "choose another method" why not try asking them
what?
can't i delete .mo locally if i'm bitwise despe
hi. i'm not an "admin" but. are you sure compression routines guarantee the same compression for
the same file? and when given differing directory names?
I have a hard time wrapping my head around your statement: gzip is "erroneous".
Have fun, John Hendrickson
look at my quick test ...
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Anne BezemerJ.A. Bezemer wrote:
On Thu, 17 Nov 2011, John D. Hendrickson and Sara Darnell wrote:
I have 2 "large" WD hardisks both have EZ-DRIVE installed. lk 2.6.10
series hacked support by checking for it. Linux version 2.6.38-k7
(root@xyxy) (gcc version 3.3.5 (Debian 1:3.3.
I have 2 "large" WD hardisks both have EZ-DRIVE installed. lk 2.6.10 series hacked support by
checking for it. Linux version 2.6.38-k7 (root@xyxy) (gcc version 3.3.5 (Debian 1:3.3.5-13)) has
removed checking
# from 2.6.10
/* Yecch - this will shift the entire interval,
#1 Backup. Why is supporting optional kernel features injected at runlevel S
and not runlevel 3?
At runlevel 3, being optional, no one will care which is done. At runlevel S, before a login can
fix things, it's a problem.
/tmp is legacy. You don't write history or future for others. What
i might say "i once saw that using linuxrc is a powerful way to mount boot and root disk sets of any
kernel-supported media, but in the end grub and tfpt is wiser"
i might ask "are you rolling debian on mult. arches locally" ? if so debian does not need change if
you are?
and ranlib issues?
I would like to hear about the question, if you will.
"bootstrapping a partial system -- no kernel and no libc"
How does your local project indicate change wished or needed in debian's package build system? Or
in what way is it a request for special exception in build scripts?
I'm unsure why
I find it hard to believe the origional bug is #630615 based on people's
comments! That's Funny!
1) rc.boot is for booting not for demanding / depends on kernel Options so and
so opted in (ie,
tmpfs). (is that why I had to hack mknod ptys in rc.local on one pc? wtf?)
Please do extras at
run
I still think that is disagreeing with thought using /tmp is a bad idea is a good idea and agree
with the people who are against.
debian-devel@lists.debian.orgAneurin Price wrote:
On 15 November 2011 08:17, Neil Williams wrote:
Do not cripple all platforms with the sins of the weakest.
M
I would like to agree with Roger in his response.
"simple well knowns, non-obstructing, no-new-bugsy, non-kernel-hack dep., ...". If linux allows "a
single project need to break "softwares already prepared and working" it is not survivable to
maintain and ignores justice in legacy.
(from res
Just ignore them. Hot air.
Microsoft et al. release stolen work and privatizes gov. projects. Can they prosecute you? I doubt
it. They probably owe you.
If it works don't fix it, ignore mere talk about wishes of delay of linux. If anything they're
hoping you'll make new work because they
but if you mean strict "meta" as in it has no files but depends on real
specific libraried packages ...
as far as I know strict "meta" are already well versioned and any package, such as perl, acts as a
"meta" in some way by depending on other versions of packages to "fully install" - in the s
Let me say this (i'm working on a new tsort you can say - but slowly as it's
not my day job).
if "Virtual package" is the same as "meta package"... (which ends up being a simple lookup before
package list ordering / dropping)
Why worry about Recommends or Suggests ? Only after dpkg develops
Lars Wirzenius wrote:
On Sat, Aug 20, 2011 at 01:31:11PM +0200, Adam Borowski wrote:
The semantics are pretty obvious to me, it's the number of corner cases and
complexity that this brings what stops dpkg/apt/aptitude/100-other-tools
maintainers from implementing that.
What is the use case for
Steve Langasek wrote:
On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 10:02:33PM +0200, Frank Küster wrote:
Doesn't work, unfortunately:
# now get rid of the commas by assigning to the positional parameters
set -x
OLD_IFS="$IFS"
IFS=$OLDIFS
These variable names don't match,
+ IFS= printf %s\n SUBST
Joachim Breitner wrote:
Hi,
just wondering: Is there a way to ensure the ordering of dpkg trigger
runs? In my case, I’d like to ensure that the ghc trigger is always run
before the ghc-doc trigger, if both packages are installed, to avoid a
warning. (The packages do not directly depend on each o
Andrew O. Shadoura wrote:
Hello,
On Fri, 8 Jul 2011 07:41:15 +0900
Norbert Preining wrote:
On Do, 07 Jul 2011, Andrew O. Shadoura wrote:
Is it possible to run mktexlsr and updmap-sys (and, possibly, other
TeX things) just once when installing or removing packages which
need to run them in po
Andrew O. Shadoura wrote:
Hello,
On Fri, 8 Jul 2011 07:41:15 +0900
Norbert Preining wrote:
hey on the bright side, q/a thinking, it did mktexlsr though the trigger was maybe missed. a
non-developer would need that to happen.
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Andrew O. Shadoura wrote:
Hello,
On Fri, 8 Jul 2011 07:41:15 +0900
Norbert Preining wrote:
On Do, 07 Jul 2011, Andrew O. Shadoura wrote:
Is it possible to run mktexlsr and updmap-sys (and, possibly, other
TeX things) just once when installing or removing packages which
need to run them in po
Martin Eberhard Schauer wrote:
Dear John, dear Sara,
thank you for contributing the manual pages.
Having translated several manpages last year I am used to some licence
statement
at the very beginning of the manual, e.g.:
.\" Copyright (c) 1995 Michael Chastain (m...@shell.portal.com), 15 Ap
Martin Eberhard Schauer wrote:
Dear John, dear Sara,
thank you for contributing the manual pages.
Having translated several manpages last year I am used to some licence
statement
at the very beginning of the manual, e.g.:
.\" Copyright (c) 1995 Michael Chastain (m...@shell.portal.com), 15 Ap
Question. Pre-Depends should, by "grading" float to the top for a dpkg install
list.
What about remove? Is Pre-Depends guaranteed to be first, last, or neither on
remove?
Personally? I sometimes get problems sometimes with dpkg's trying to install things with allot of
depnds before things
der commands except to work with current status
.SH FILES
example.deplist.\fBshmake\fR
example.sh.\fBshmake\fR
.SH BUGS
please mail any bugs you find I'd like \fBshmake\fR to be simple for everyone
.SH LICENSE
pre-release; not yet licensed
.SH VERSION
Version 0.01
.SH AUTHOR
John D. Hendrickson, deb...
Jan Hauke Rahm wrote:
On Thu, Jul 07, 2011 at 01:26:29PM +0100, Jon Dowland wrote:
On Thu, Jul 07, 2011 at 11:53:17AM +0300, Andrew O. Shadoura wrote:
Is it possible to run mktexlsr and updmap-sys (and, possibly, other
TeX things) just once when installing or removing packages which need
to run
Jan Hauke Rahm wrote:
On Thu, Jul 07, 2011 at 01:26:29PM +0100, Jon Dowland wrote:
On Thu, Jul 07, 2011 at 11:53:17AM +0300, Andrew O. Shadoura wrote:
Is it possible to run mktexlsr and updmap-sys (and, possibly, other
TeX things) just once when installing or removing packages which need
to run
One last rc.d comment. (noting I use a variety but try to stick with
latest)
For 20 yrs. every time I try NFS during boot scripts, no matter which
linux, I tend to get my linux frozen when nfs can't mount.
I have yet to see an NFS that offers file access in a suitable manner
(ie, error chec
(1), and reboot is never executed.
you didn't delete any rc.d scripts in /etc/ did you?
John D. Hendrickson and Sara Darnell wrote:
I'm not a debian bug handler but...
try "shutdown -t0 -r now" and re-submit if it doesn't work (I think
specifying time is required?)
C
I'm not a debian bug handler but...
try "shutdown -t0 -r now" and re-submit if it doesn't work (I think
specifying time is required?)
Christoph Pleger wrote:
Package: general
Severity: normal
Hello,
when I am logged in (by ssh or on tty1-tty6) as root on the machine where I am
writing this
I've noticed I have to check /etc carefully.
Some rc.d scripts that packages install edit and or activate things in
/etc (they make insertions into automatically actived scripts in /etc
for ssh, ppp, perl, network (pre-ifupdown or what), exim, things or
other possible phone home things). Whil
I'm reading (can't spend allot of time though, I'll try)
initscripts_2.88dsf-13.3_amd64.deb
sysvinit_2.88dsf-13.3.dsc
I'm thinking (I'm not sure) that Bastien is working on this. He'd
mentioned issues between sysinit and running on certain vservers.
While reading scripts it re
fuser(1)
In the postinst (or other) it seems you wish to know if your impacting
things, are not all sure about the vserver situation, and are using
stat(1) and test -L and etc.
You might try fuser(1) so you are sure if /var/run will impact something.
Luca Capello wrote:
Hi there!
Disclaim
hope) most things found in the source.
I've done a bit of lower level graphics in the past.
Tell me if you have any prerequisite skills / experience you
need for the next maintainer.
I've programmed on and off for 15 yrs.
I have a degree in science.
Thanks,
John D
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spicep08s (not spice3f5...), xosKope, ngspice (I'm still looking for spice3f !!)
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permission to run - they way they need to run it, right?
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3) you remove package, then all files, then reinstall
4) --> you STILL don't have all the files required <--
Gnome is one of these - but their are many.
DEBIAN BUG: Many packages are *not* using the 'alternative' methods so
they can co-exist with applications using similar resources.
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