wrote:
> Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2000 08:45:41 +0200 (CEST)
> From: Andreas Tille <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: David Bristel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: "Thomas R. Shemanske" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Debian Development liste
> Subject: Re: UPS setup problems (ap
This is one of the reasons why I've been happy I bought a Smart-UPS, not only
does it provide more information(ammount of battery power and UPS load as well
as other information), but the apcd package for APC monitoring worked
on it out of the box for slink.
8:25 -0800
> From: Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: David Bristel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: debian-devel@lists.debian.org
> Subject: Re: Danger Will Robinson! Danger!
>
> David Bristel wrote:
> > The solution to this is that we ignore woody for the moment, and
Do you remember GNOME 0.30? I do because it was in stable after 1.0 was
released. What would YOU call the more stable version? Just because something
makes it into stable doesn't mean it's really a fully stable package. And just
because something is NEWER doesn't mean it's not stable, or even "
I agree, we shouldn't care about "keeping up with the other dists" when
stability may suffer because of it. At the same time, as you have noticed,
there are a number of commercial packages out there that may require the newer
kernel versions, or apps. We do NOT want people to choose Redhat over D
The solution to this is that we ignore woody for the moment, and begin an all
out effort to get the 2.4 kernel, XF4.0, and Apache 2.0 into Debian as STABLE.
The work for these things can also incorporate the work needed to re-add the
packages that were removed because of bugs. I know people LOVE t
s gated which install
themselves in /etc as the default also drive me crazy. Now, back on topic, if
you need to share a file NIS/NIS+ will work. Someone else may have a better
solution, such as Samba.
David Bristel
> Apart from /etc/mtab (which ca
apt-get update
apt-get dist-upgrade
These two lines should be run after you update your /etc/apt/source.list to
point to unstable.
Dave Bristel
On Mon, 4 Oct 1999, [iso-8859-1] Staffan Hämälä wrote:
> Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 20:44:48 +020
a PERSON on
the list, rather than keeping it off the list. If you feel the need to insult
someone, then PLEASE, do it in private e-mails so it doesn't get out of hand.
David Bristel
lag to go on a package,
and after the install, the installed daemons are listed. This is just an idea,
but that's another subject.
David Bristel
handful. So, let's keep the good of the distribution in mind, work
through any differences we may have, and continue on.
David Bristel
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Strange, I've never had a hard time with a dist-upgrade when I am remote. Of
course, it's best to open a new telnet window once the upgrade is complete, and
to not do a final reboot until you are on site, since if it doesn't boot, you
are stuck. But that behavior of losing connection is generally
You may have noticed that the other distributions also have KDE included in
them. Because of the license "flaw", Debian does not allow KDE in main. Redhat
and others include it because there is little chance of legal action against
them for this inclusion. The same applies here, Redhat seems to
I believe that this is the reason Joey Hess suggested that we start adding new
and tested packages as an addition to our last stable release. Many package
maintainers release new versions of their packages for both the stable, as well
as the unstable release. XFree is a perfect example of this, a
I agree with you on this one, we do NOT need html, or text versions of the
Bible, or other non-technical or computer related documents in main. As it is,
potato is HUGE, larger than ANY other distribution. My thought is that if it is
not a program, or does not enhance or assist in the use of a pr
This is also a very big issue for those who install "groups" of packages during
the install. I know that I was recently bitten by this when I chose to install
a number of "groups" of packages, and didn't realize that the masquerading and
redirecting versions of inetd were installed. It took some
Or crossover cable.
Dave Bristel
On 24 Sep 1999, Ruud de Rooij wrote:
> Date: 24 Sep 1999 17:16:06 +0200
> From: Ruud de Rooij <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Cc: debian-devel@lists.debian.org
> Subject: Re: Conference! - aro
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> To: Debian Developerslist
> Subject: Roxen virtual servers, was: Re: ProFTPd being lame
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> * "David" == Da
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Dave Bristel
On Mon, 20 Sep 1999, Hirling Endre wrote:
> Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1999 20:30:40 +0200 (CEST)
> From: Hirling Endre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: David Bristel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: Anders Arnholm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>
On Sun, 19 Sep 1999, Anders Arnholm wrote:
> Date: Sun, 19 Sep 1999 12:18:53 +0200
> From: Anders Arnholm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: Robert Stone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: Chris Rutter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, debian-devel@lists.debian.org
> Subject: Re: ProFTPd being lame
> Resent-Date: 19 Sep 1999
You are correct. Of course, many people forget about this since they think of
Roxen as a web server, and ftp being a secondary feature. Of course, with all
the Apache fanatics out there, many have never even checked out Roxen.
Dave Bristel
or completeness?
Dave Bristel
On Sat, 18 Sep 1999, Robert Stone wrote:
> Date: Sat, 18 Sep 1999 15:49:37 -0700
> From: Robert Stone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: David Bristel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: debian-devel@lists.debian.org
> Subject: Re: Move pr
That's strange, since r3 can be found on a number of mirrors.
Dave Bristel
On Fri, 17 Sep 1999, Josip Rodin wrote:
> Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 16:51:03 +0200
> From: Josip Rodin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: Chris Rutter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: Debian
Or a new section for packages removed from main due to bugs, but possibly still
desired by some people? It's safer to have a clear message that "Debian
considers these packages to contain too many bugs for inclusion in the main
distribution, but we are aware that there are some who want to use the
With this in mind, I think that having a configuration variable for apt that
would allow the downloaded .deb files to be put in a user defined place. This
way, if your /var is close to being full, you could, for example, drop it into a
temporary directory on /home for the upgrade. This isn't the
Well, for as long as I've been using Debian(shortly after 1.3.1 came out), the
CD has been bootable, and useable as a rescue disk. Sure, it's not completely
useful, but you can boot from it, get a shell, etc...for compatability with
older systems without the "boot from CD" in their BIOS, we need t
Perhaps, but if we could get a better location, it would help a LOT, or to do
something to draw more attention, which really needs more space so people can
realize we exist. Perhaps getting 50 coppies of the Debian book to sell, with
the free CDs and more of the T-shirtsthe shirts were in HIGH
help.
Dave
On Thu, 20 May 1999, Joseph Carter wrote:
> Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 15:03:11 -0700
> From: Joseph Carter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: David Bristel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: Tyger Sunshine-Hill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> debian-de
Think about it though, if Debian were the OS of choice, those who are involved
now would be considered the regional gurus, and that means we get paid more by
companies who want the most experienced and knowledgeable people. Then we WOULD
have the masses groveling.
n CD's are always needed to
give out, electric, insurance, the booth space itself. Rather than go on a show
to show basis, large donations COULD pay for the booth, or for a larger booth
than a 10x10.
David Bristel
On Thu, 20 May 1999
Yep, that's my thought as well. Now, a boxed Debian/book set that gets sold in
the software, not just the book section of stores. THAT would not only increase
sales of the book, but would make Debian a LOT more popular, and get us more
publicity as a distribution. It wouldn't even constitute sel
2.2 kernels(still
havn't gotten around to upgradeing to them), there is now support for NFS
locking similar to the Solaris behavior. From your problems, this(with
appropriate software support), may be your answer.
David Bristel
On Mo
shouldn't get much of a
complaint.
David Bristel
On Mon, 17 May 1999, Erik wrote:
> Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 16:44:18 -0700
> From: Erik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: debian-devel
> Subject: Re: better /etc/init.d/network
This is why I suggested the new area, apart from main, non-free, and contrib.
People who want the updates should have a nice, easily accessable place to find
these packages. From a system administration standpoint, it's nice to know
EXACTLY where to go to update the entire distribution automatical
t; Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 23:29:10 -0400
> From: Branden Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: David Bristel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: debian-devel@lists.debian.org
> Subject: Re: Release Plans (1999-05-10)
>
> On Wed, May 12, 1999 at 02:06:24PM -0700, David Bristel
It seems to me that since there will always be patches and updates to packages
between releases, and since we have the "proposed" updates, perhaps we could
add an "updates" area, in addition to the non-free, contrib, and main sections.
This would work VERY nicely for users who want to grab the late
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