On 12/16/24 17:45, rhys wrote:
> However, privilege escalation is still a serious issue and should not be
> minimized by its likelihood.
I didn't, my point is that I think they are better/more effectively
adressed with other mechanims (systemd unit hardening) than chroot.
> The "REAL" danger is t
Hi,
first - thanks a lot for working on postfix packaging, it really needs
some love.
On 12/16/24 15:51, Michael Tokarev wrote:
> What do you think about this aspect of postfix on debian?
my opinion in short: I would get rid of the chrooted complexity, it's
not worth it and introduces way more p
Hi,
both sound good (dropping mandatory priority is nice and consistent,
fixing unknown section behaviour too), thanks!
ideally these changes would be in dpkg in trixie, but maintainers would
start dropping priority fields *after* trixie so that for backports we
woudn't need to add it back en mas
On 10/16/24 18:18, Iustin Pop wrote:
> Gitea/Forgejo are common recommended solutions for "home hosting", but
> neither is packaged.
(jftr) I'm currently working with Forgejo upstream to get one last
feature implemented that we'll need at work to switch to it, and then
finish the packaging of it
On 9/23/24 13:04, Lukas Märdian wrote:
> It's sad to see that fellow DDs do not seem to care
It's sad to see that in this and the other thread before, the same weak
arguments in favour of netplan are repeated by you without neither
adressing the valid points raised against it, nor providing an act
On 9/5/24 10:43, Marc Haber wrote:
> I don't see a problem with keeping ifupdown{2,-ng,} if none of those
> packages is part of the default install and we remove it from the
> beginner- and intermediate-level docs.
right, me neither; but Lukas' argument was that introducing netplan is
"unifying do
sorry, one more..
On 9/4/24 18:00, Lukas Märdian wrote:
> But we ought to look at the bigger picture!
>From that point of view, it doesn't make sense to even consider netplan.
No distribution other than ubuntu is using it.
If Debian uses network-manager and systemd-networkd, there's hardly any
d
On 9/4/24 18:00, Lukas Märdian wrote:
>> Of course we could. But who would actually care?
>
> That's exactly the problem!
I don't think so. I still have the impression that netplan wants to fill
a whole where in reality there's none.
In my experience networking from a systems point of view has d
On 9/4/24 17:49, Lukas Märdian wrote:
> Netplan is for the average user who googles about "how to configure network
> on debian" and ends up with the "4 ways to configure the network"
> [4ways] or
> even more options in the Debian Reference [debref]:
so, to exaggerate on purpose, netplan is only t
Hi,
On 9/3/24 18:24, Lukas Märdian wrote:
> The nice thing about Netplan is that it [...] functions as a
> layer on top.
I don't understand what actual problem netplan is trying to solve.
On servers I want systemd-networkd directly anyway (for lacp, vlan and
bridges), and on end-user desktops I'
On 3/8/23 14:11, Marc Haber wrote:
> They pulled the plug on relay and client from now to immediately, with
> no obvious replacement on the relay side, and then announced EOL for
> the server for end of 2022, leaving the world without the reference
> implementation.
that was unfortunate, however..
On 2/22/23 14:26, Peter Pentchev wrote:
> Wait, I may have been unclear. I did not mean that I want to omit
> the upstream copyright years *when they are there*.
I know you didn't mean that, nevertheless, it's imho good idea. I'd be
in favour of dropping them from d/copyright an let people have a
On 2/22/23 13:55, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
> As a redistributor I find it a good practice to include most possible
> copyright and licensing information provided by upstream authors,
> exactly because we are doing a service for our users
while having copyright information centrally available per pa
On 9/30/21 10:50, Alastair McKinstry wrote:
Are any other packages in the same situation ?
In pytzdata, I've removed the embedded copy in order to use the system
copy (= tzdata) of the zoneinfo files.
Regards,
Daniel
On 2/6/20 2:36 AM, Paul Wise wrote:
> My interpretation is
> of this is that packages should never touch /srv unless directed to do
> so by the sysadmin.
As a general rule, I'd agree.
However, I support allowing packages to not do anything except creating
an empty directory in /srv/$foo (i.e. cre
On 2/6/20 4:10 AM, Richard Laager wrote:
> That's been my interpretation too. My expectation as a sysadmin is that
> /srv is available for my _exclusive_ use.
in the case of vsftp and tftpd-hpa, there's a debconf question asking
the admin for the location of these directories, for which /srv/{t,}f
On 10/18/2018 11:22 AM, Philipp Hahn wrote:
> Are we (as a Debian derivate) allowed to hard-code and use the
> "debian.pool.ntp.org" or must we apply for our own pool?
the idea between the different pool CNAMEs is that when one vendor does
something bad/wrong, the queries of devices running that v
Hi,
On 05/16/2018 07:12 PM, Moritz Mühlenhoff wrote:
> However cargo's bootstrap is broken ATM which will need fixing (and
> it also requires a more recent libgit than we have in stretch).
I'm backporting firefox to stretch since a while. rustc built fine with
llvm-3.9 so far.
https://sources.p
On 08/22/2017 08:13 AM, Alexander Wirt wrote:
> as alioth is deprecated and will (more or less) get replaced with other
> services soon I disabled user creation and project creation on alioth.
while I fully understand (and appreciate) the migration to something
better, depending on the "soon", dis
On 02/15/2017 06:35 PM, Christoph Goehre wrote:
> Thunderbird is back in Debian!
thanks, much appreciated.
> will also be changing from '$HOME/.icedove' to '$HOME/.thunderbird'
why not migrate to ~/.mozilla/thunderbird (#363811) or
~/.config/thunderbird ?
Regards,
Daniel
[ I don't know why this post is not showing up on planet.debian.org:
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An abrupt End to Debian Live
Debian can be great.
But depending on who you are, where yo
#x27;s right to do so, or not. however... ]
On 06/14/15 17:10, Don Armstrong wrote:
> Does a patch exist which can enable lz for orig.tar?
i maintain a patched dpkg version as a proof-of-concept. for jessie:
http://sources.progress-linux.org/gitweb/?p=releases/cairon/packages/dpkg.git
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> it seems that most packages are or have been maintained by Daniel Baumann
> or the Fonts Team (both CCed).
i've switched to the default compression december 2012/january 2013 in
all my packages (so they use an inherited -z6 as everyon
his
'what to do with embedded js in binary packages not being part of the
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login, either a debian SSO login or an
alioth one. i have neither. how should i register?
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On 05/30/2013 08:06 PM, Scott Kitterman wrote:
> FWIW, Ubuntu has done this with their backports repositories for the last two
> years of releases
debian-live images have this by default since squeeze too.
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there in the rare cases that a
> package isn't just dfsg non-free, but actually undistributable.
'git filter-branch' exists.
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for those who care about irker, another CIA.vc alternative, to rely
commit noticies into an irc channel, see:
* #689011
* http://people.debian.org/~daniel/irker/
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commit e8a6bbdf2efc0ed75058f53e72d8f202f3f0ac27
Author: Daniel Baumann
Date: Wed Aug 29 14:00:38 2012 +0200
Removing hazardous alias of 'ls -la' on '.', this is dangerous,
don't
es should have a debconf question for the document root,
defaulting to /srv/, and create the directory where necessary (see
'/srv/tftp' handling in tftpd-hpa).
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than the reporter) agressive tone. and neither does the 'free software
community'.
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add whatever seems usefull to that list which will then be automatically
available on the official images.
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mirror sources for live-build.
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producing identical output across all archs in dpkgs multi-arch
implementation still stands, it might be worth noting (and at least
jftr) that lzip does not suffer from that problem in the first place.
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certain amount of physical ram available. had only bad experiences with
it, so far (worse than without it).
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good thing, isn't it? ;)
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stuff and b) not worth vast changes for the whole distribution
that would make it significantly inconvenient for everyone else, rather
than to just use edge-case solutions for edge-cases (equivs). that looks
pretty much logical to me.
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On 11/20/2011 09:07 AM, Frank Lin PIAT wrote:
This could be an interesting feature for ipxe/gpxe users
they already use gpxelinux fwiw.
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time if sudo, su, gksu, $whatever has
to be used). your package list contains such cases. please check careful
your list again if these packages are using su-to-root and therefore
have to have the depends.
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a single directory.
that has nothing to do with what was discussed in this thread and is
something no unix-like os should ever do. oiow: thanks, but no thanks. :)
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thing directly is better than going for something incomplete first.
oiow, someone with time should just make that trichotomy happen in FHS 3.0.
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* this is a colossal waste of time.
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the developpers on Debian Live and
was expecting to do so this summer (if he has some time...).
returned after debconf, catching up with real-life, and then getting to
it on friday.. i'll put up a little announcement on the weekend about
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On 07/28/2011 04:33 PM, Daniel Baumann wrote:
> for the other thing (you said the build would fail with --initramfs
> none) i'll check somewhen after dinner, it worked for me though a couple
> of weeks ago (and the linaro/cannonical and ubuntu guys are using this
> feature for
On 07/28/2011 04:36 PM, Philip Hands wrote:
> For a while I've thought that it would be good to have a way of
> provoking such packages to reset themselves
absolutely, see the other thread on devel from before:
http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2011/07/msg00698.html
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> i appologize for having forgotten to fill the bug (to keep the reminder
> about it) myself after you've choosen not to (which is not your
> obligation, so perfectly fine).
jftr: virtual-hdd is as of now in man lb_config listed as bin
erating
> VM images for Debian, and that's good.
...and i'm happy to work on adding whatever features whoever would like
to have regarding vm images. please feel encourage to open bug reports
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> how to use it.
we're working on that, the current git version does a lot of
simplifications all over the place. once the documentation has been
synchronised, uploads to unstable will follow.. (sometime soon after
having returned
a
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On 07/27/2011 05:41 AM, Ivan Shmakov wrote:
> Given how a usual .postinst script is written, its repeated
> execution isn't expected to do any harm.
for the -live case, this just bloads boottime unnecessarily long (which
is why live-config doesn't do that).
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not installed
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type) for this.
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ne a way so that upon start,
if enabled (which would be by default to yes upon boot), those packages
that have not configured their "private" stuff yet, to run their
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> I was talking with Daniel Baumann about how Debian Live approaches
> this problem and I think he said Debian Live has some scripts to
> remove them after installation.
no rocket science involved, we simply just remove them during build
(live-b
On 06/22/2011 08:10 PM, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> The various *dm packages do this quite well in my experience and I don't
> see any -common package.
which is extremely stupid in every way there is (code duplication, l10n
dublication, etc.).
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postinst foo, and extlinux does some other postinst foo too), and
b) to ensure only one bootloader writes to the mbr at the time
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On 02/17/2011 09:46 AM, Robert Edmonds wrote:
> let me rephrase: the resolvconf options would be enabled by default, but
> would be no-ops unless resolvconf is installed. and i think the package
> would only Suggest: resolvconf.
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mean you're going to add a depends on resolvconf (rather than e.g. a
recommends)? i'd prefere to not have resolvconf pulled in hard.
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On 08/16/2010 07:22 PM, Damyan Ivanov wrote:
> Adding Daniel Baumann, the sponsor of the above two packages, to CC in case he
> can shed some light.
note that i'm semi-vac until 2010-09-04, however, i speak daily with
jonas on irc, you may contact him as hggh on freenode.
also, i&#x
On 07/17/2010 10:44 PM, Daniel Baumann wrote:
> fyi: extlinux in the next upload (in two days when the previous one has
> migrated) will fully complains to the policy.
s/complains/comply/
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cosmetic, it doesn't make a
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in /boot too would be seriously
unreasonable, but having the activated theme in /boot/extlinux/theme/ is.
Hope that explains it, feel free to if you want more information.
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ood default for everyone and anything.
> HPA has been an active upstream maintainer all
> this time AFAIK.
indeed, he's an excellent upstream in every aspect.
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none of the hooks is doing this (initramfs-tools, grub, etc), might
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finally push it. if anyone has time before debconf/debcamp, that would
be great. otherwise, i hope to have a look together with otavio at
debconf/debcamp (if he accepts my bribes with chocolate :).
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setups well, however, any other/better ideas how to improve it are very
welcome, see #573042 for more information.
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On 04/19/2010 03:51 PM, spamfuerda...@gmx.de wrote:
"What does .d at the end of some dirctory and filenames actually stand
for?"
it stands for 'directory'.
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On 02/15/2010 05:03 PM, Matthias Klose wrote:
Is there any chance of getting libstdc++5 back in oldlibs?
I don't intend to restore either libstdc++5 or libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2.
i'll add them to http://forwardports.debian-maintainers.org/.
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> That sounds sensible. Is there anything I can do to help?
help persuading the blocking maintainers to do the right thing.
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> despite this disclaimer would be appreciated however.
how about maintainers, will i get it automatically for my packages, or
do i have to do something in order to get them?
anyhow, thanks for implementing it. extremely useful f
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> - which auto-builder will rebuild arch:all packages?
especially because this will break packages with 'faked' arch:all binary
packages, such as e.g. syslinux where syslinux-common has to be build on
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> I'm thinking of renaming the binary package as unicorn-utils for the
> next upload to make this clearer.
please use the -tools suffix which his used by most userland tool
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> What about:
> General Resolution sponsorship requirements
sounds like package sponsorship requirements to me. therefore i suggest
to be extra clear and change it to 'Requirements for General Resolution
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how to write *proper* bug
reports.
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[0] http://lists.debian.org/debian-live/2009/02/msg00114.html
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> The purpose of this thread is not to improve Debian Live.
fair enough. i stop reading here then.
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e issue.
> according to the current lenny release notes, Debian Live is going to become
> official with lenny for x86. I tried Debian Live several times and always had
> issues with it. So, I decided to test Debian Live a bit and found that
> several issues still applied. I discussed
ished, i'll let
steve know where to sync them like i did the last times.
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> Anyway, if you need/want to build the images after the actual release
> that will mean earliest Saturday afternoon and more probably Saturday
> evening/Sunday.
that would be nice.
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n.
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build on my system for some strange reason), we'll
be able to recreate the file from sources at buildtime of yui.
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Paul Wise wrote:
> Then you should submit a request for splitting yui up a bit, perhaps
> into libjs-yui-doc, libjs-yui-animation, libjs-yui-assets and so on.
known, something like that will be done soon. there's a bug about it
from Chris already.
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t's finally time to
drop nfs-user-server (nfs-kernel-server has got support for nohide).
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factually
defaulting to install the same package to fulfil the
mail-transport-agent relation when being installed first time, but that
got somehow lost.
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ian to
not declare unconditional relations to mail-transfer-agent.
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