On Thu, 3 Apr 2025 at 09:47, Marco d'Itri wrote:
> On Apr 02, Bill Allombert wrote:
>
> >Does that breaks the usual unix commands like 'who' ? If yes this is
> who(1) specifically, yes.
> See https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1079575 .
> Maybe the coreutils maintainer is already
On Fri, 4 Apr 2025 at 10:16, Michael Biebl wrote:
> michael@mars:~$ loginctl
> SESSION UID USERSEAT LEADER CLASS TTY IDLE SINCE
>3 1000 michael seat0 2116 usertty1 no -
>4 1000 michael - 2125 manager -no -
>
> 2 sessions listed.
>
> michael@mars:~$ who
On Fri, 4 Apr 2025 at 09:46, Chris Hofstaedtler wrote:
> Maybe it needs some additional work to fully function
> with current systemd versions. IIRC procps also only recently added
> some new code to deal with new systemd behaviours.
>
That's right, we were counting sessions, not user sessions.
Hi,
On Wed, 2 Apr 2025 at 06:27, Michael Stone wrote:
> /run/utmp is no longer provided in trixie, which means that the
> mechanisms used to show active sessions in unix for several decades no
> longer work. There's a replacement mechanism provided by systemd, but
> it's not 1:1.
I'm the procps
On Wed, 8 May 2024 at 09:03, Jun MO wrote:
> 1) I hope there will still be the original
> w(1)/last(1)/lastb(1)/lastlog(1)/faillog(1)
> tools which can still read *old* format utmp/wtmp/lastlog in Debian at
> least for
> a while after switch to Y2038-safe replacements. Those tools can read
>
I c
On Wed, 15 Nov 2023 at 23:03, Guillem Jover wrote:
> I'm all in for shrinking the essential-set. If there is consensus to
> switch pidof implementations that also seems fine to me in the abstract.
> But this shuffling around of essential-ness and new tiny packages and
> stuff seems a bit unnecess
Hello,
For quite some time (since 2006!) there has been a discussion at[1] about
changing from the sysvinit-utils version of pidof to the procps one. A
quick scan of the various distributions shows that only Debian and Ubuntu
(and I assume most other downstreams) use the sysvinit-utils version.
On Wed, 17 May 2023 at 14:10, Steve Langasek wrote:
> Over on debian-arm@lists, there has been discussion on and off for several
> months now about the impending 32-bit timepocalypse. As many of you are
> aware, 32-bit time_t runs out of space in 2038; the exact date is now less
> than 15 years
On Fri, 4 Mar 2022 at 23:34, Ansgar wrote:
> On Fri, 2022-03-04 at 13:27 +0100, Stephan Lachnit wrote:
> > On Fri, Mar 4, 2022 at 12:47 PM Baptiste Beauplat
> > wrote:
> > > As a reminder debian.org addresses does support DKIM. After
> > > configuration on your mail server, you can publish your
On Fri, 20 Aug 2021 at 09:56, Theodore Ts'o wrote:
> P.S. I had a vague memory that there was some update in the long
> distant past where we did require a manual upgrade of dpkg first. Or
> is my memory playing tricks on me? I do know that a manual update of
> dpkg is the first step in a cros
Hi,
The TEMP IDs are automatically generated by the security tracker and are
a placeholder for the CVE ID.
They are unique but generally should not be quoted outside the tracker. The
issue should (but not always) get a real CVE ID so yes it can change to
that.
If you were looking for a fixed re
Hi,
WordPress has a bunch of these dependencies which float in and out of
lining up between what Debian has and what upstream WordPress uses. As an
added bonus, they sometimes slightly adjust their copies.
I use lintian overrides and dh-linktree and this helps, but the result is
less than good an
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA512
I got my reports for two of my packages (I'm upstream for both too).
The first problem is I couldn't find what version of the program they found
the bug in. I also looked closely at one specific example and it didn't
crash at all. Unless there was
I though I saw something about it being reinstated but without the..
rolling encryption I think they called it.
Obviously you would want to confirm and qualify that but it might change
things.
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On Fri, 30 Oct 2020, 07:18 Rogério Brito, wrote:
> Dear people,
>
> As many of you may know,
On Thu, 30 Jan 2020 at 05:26, Moritz Mühlenhoff wrote:
> I'm in favour of setting both to 1. From a quick search Ubuntu carried a
> patch
> in their systemd package to set this as well (LP 1845637).
>
> protected hardlinks/symlinks are enabled via a Debian-specific kernel patch
> by default, so I
Hi,
About 2 years ago the procps package added protection for hard and soft
symlinks. The bug report was 889098 and has seemed to work fine.
There is also now bug #914859 which would extend this same protection for
other files, as mentioned in [1]
On the one hand, having all these file types pr
On Fri, 1 Nov 2019 at 08:27, Thomas Goirand wrote:
> However, this doesn't mean that anything non-systemd must implement all
> things that systemd does, or just die. It really doesn't make sense to
> tell that, for example, OpenRC should be forced into implementing a
> parser of .timer files, jus
ine, but stating that anywhere muddies the waters.
Not an ideal situation and you'll still cop some emails but it might help.
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tead of having to read a log pretty much line-by-line, you wiggle the
> scrollbar and watch for that speck of red flashing by.
>
I think this is a great idea. There have been many others in this thread
but just turning on the colour would be an improvement.
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eone how those files arrive there.
The only other catch is to ensure the install-examples or whatever the
Makefile target is called is actually run; either directly out of
debian/rules or as part of the Makefile install target.
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inary and the
library. That didn't help when upstream used their own hacky un-maintained
for years version of some library but it caught most of the cases.
So, perhaps there needs to be a new way for some of these newer packaging
methods. I don't think we can say package all the things, eve
e older maintainers of
net-snmp want to lend a hand from time to time, that would be great.
So, uh, let me fix wordpress jessie first!
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Someone should fix that; but of course there are so many hours in the day.
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Hi Enrico,
Have you looked at dh-linktree?
I use that in wordpress so if the package has the right files it makes
symlinks to the relavant spot and adds the package to the binary dependency.
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On Wed, Apr 6, 2016 at 3:26 PM Paul Wise wrote:
> Sounds a lot like some of these should be added to bapase:
>
> https://udd.debian.org/cgi-bin/bapase.cgi
I think you mean https://udd.debian.org/bapase.cgi
but yes, looks like a good idea.
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Thanks James,
If it is "just me" then its an easy fix.
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On Sun, Nov 29, 2015 at 8:39 AM James McCoy wrote:
> On Sun, Nov 29, 2015 at 08:24:15AM +1100, Craig Small wrote:
> > I've been helping someone with a vim plugin called vim-command-t[1] and
> &g
y things" via the binary?
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his thread and I don't know enough about the context to form a
> defensible opinion.
The irony is arguing about the name could be considered bikeshedding
to some.
At least, *I* found it amusing.
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parated with periods - the whole deal.
Steal them or use them from dh-make.
$ ls /usr/share/debhelper/dh_make/licenses/
apache artistic blank bsd gpl2 gpl3 lgpl2 lgpl3 mit
If you just lift them a few :%s/%blah%/this/g in vi or equivalent
and you're done.
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On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 04:13:59PM +0200, Tobias Frost wrote:
> Am Freitag, den 12.06.2015, 20:50 +1000 schrieb Craig Small:
> > On Mon, Jun 08, 2015 at 02:05:11PM +0100, Adam D. Barratt wrote:
> > > With my SRM hat on, we're generally happy to consider the issue resol
's basically a
> documentation issue rather than a licensing one. Assuming that's the case,
> no separate update for Jessie would be required.
Thanks, I'll document and downgrade (to make it non-RC) the bug.
Yes, its a purely a documentation issue.
See https://bugs.launchpad.net/m
report and not make it
a serious level so its not RC.
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That essentially is what the difference is.
You would normally use "s" unless there was a good reason not to.
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I'll shush now too.
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d would avoid some of
> these bug severity arguments.
I agree. I also agree that there isn't, for me, much difference between
the top three severities on how I treat the bugs.
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ecks for source-is-missing need some work.
See bug 744972 for some details, but basically the source for
foo/bar/baz.min.js doesn't need to be found in foo/bar and called
baz.js
Just in case others get this message, can see the source code and wonder
why.
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f lisp script.
I don't have that script anymore, does that make the logo non-free?
Should that change the status of the graphic?
If, instead of a script I manually typed/moused the commands, does that
change the status?
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On Fri, Mar 07, 2014 at 01:57:17PM +0100, Stephan Seitz wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 06, 2014 at 12:21:06PM +1100, Craig Small wrote:
> >You apparently can have a "special" group that can see everything.
> Aren’t there PAM modules which can grant capabilities to certain users?
No
ght like to fix mount(8) too, especially the bit about procfs
if this is the new default.
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program or has anything to do
with it (the fix was for sysctl, the failure was in ps).
The problem seems to be the SCHED_BATCH scheduler didn't appear or apply
to program.
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mutt again.
It was probably about how nice the weather has been lately.
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my software can
choose to have it under GPLv3. It also means subsequent developers
could release it as v3, but that could/would be a fork if the primary
development is still ongoing.
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On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 09:10:52AM +1100, Craig Small wrote:
> upstream what they are going to do? If they are going to keep pidof
> then the change is not required. If the projects plans is to
Which I did.
For the moment they have no plans moving pidof though they don't seem
terr
ng to keep pidof
then the change is not required. If the projects plans is to
retire/move it, then we will need to move it too.
I'm not sure exactly who the exact upstream project it is.
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Not sure what is happening with killall5.
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he new procps-base gets installed, just that
either the old sysvinit-utils OR the new procps-base is there so we have
a pidof somewhere.
Thanks everyone for your comments.
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placing
one file from sysvinit-utils?
Other than removing pidof, is there anything the syscinit-utils
people need to do?
As its a bit tricky, I really don't want to mess up the
inter-dependencies. A non-working file init uses is a bad thing.
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On Sat, Oct 12, 2013 at 10:01:33AM +1100, Craig Small wrote:
> my first cut of it would be:
> procps-base: pidof, ps, sysctl, pgrep, pkill
> procps: pwdx, vmstat, tload, free, pmap, skill, slabtop, top, uptime,
> watch, w, snice
>
> procps-base is Essential an
lternatives/view -> /usr/bin/vim.gnome
I get annoyed when it does that other mime-y thing so I'm all for it
going.
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et lots of emails and look after many packages. I assume you
want a reply from these people.
A simple
"To recap, package X needs package Y to do Z, further details are at W"
will mean more chance of a reply. The email as currently sent is a bit
context-free to me.
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Hard for the upstream, but to me the best solution for the Debian
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On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 11:28:47AM +1000, Craig Small wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 09, 2013 at 01:39:20PM +0200, Ben Hutchings wrote:
> > I also wonder whether it would not be more sensible to split procps into
> > essential and non-essential binary packages. Aside from pidof, I bet
> &
On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 05:02:58PM +0200, Andreas Henriksson wrote:
> Craig Small
>gogoc
Thanks for the note. gogoc 2.1-5 now uses iproute2.
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it's Essential flag in early 1998, though
I cannot locate the bug report on it. Other than my email about it[1]
I don't see any other discussion.
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On Fri, Aug 09, 2013 at 03:14:14PM +0200, Ondřej Surý wrote:
>And is there a strong reason why we don't move whole procps into
>essential?A
It used to be there and then it was decided it wasn't essential.
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On Fri, Aug 09, 2013 at 04:46:26PM +0400, Игорь Пашев wrote:
> Since we are talking about pidof, I'd like to note that pgrep is more
> portable ;-)
They'll actually share some of the same codebase after this change.
pidof is bascially a cut-down pgrep.
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to make it all clear.
Are you saying the initial email was serious, really?
It's a completely bad idea. BSD is fine, but GPL2 is not?
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> between two packages seems like a sure recipe for both tools falling behind
> in the long term.
I wondered that myself actually.
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That was the part I didn't understand. What are people doing to solve
this generated files at release problem? I've solved this as upstream
and a Debian developer by having tarballs.
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format or a native format?
If I want it enough I'm not going to care.
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;t recommend it if you don't need to.
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ber so a "pseduo CPU speed" is probably as bad as anything
else you can come up with, so find something simple.
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C library in the source code.
Anyhow, you probably need to collect all the license types and authors
and group them somehow.
Good luck, it looks a little messy in there!
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;Society
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at "pet
That's a good way of putting it. Also who can predict what is really a
pet project. I bet the first medical related project that was ITP'ed
on Debian people were thinking 'huh, why that here?' and yet I hear now
there is quite a large and vibrant community
think we had one maybe and one yes. FWIW I think we need to do b)
as well.
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gh I am aware of kludges within the
website backend to do its stuff at times.
The problem with replacing WML is; what do you replace it with? and will
it bring any real benefit?
Admitedly for my own pages I've moved away from wml in places but that's
because I'
10/02/msg00314.html
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hey properly
reflect that time. I suppose if you have 0 there then you don't have
to care, because its not going to change your results.
The biggest question is, is that number part of the 100% of the CPU time
or is it a susbset of say, system time.
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easons for leaving where it is are:
* It doesn't change any behaviour
* Setting up all the funky networking parameters should be done
before you up your interfaces.
Please CC me.
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and any packages
have to test for directories in /var/run (and /var/lock too I guess)
and re-create them if not found?
If there was a change, why was it not announced? Why not mention
something like this on d-d-a as it is gonig to hit a fair few packages.
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It would be nice to trap all sorts of problems, but I believe this would
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it appears to be it
would be best to make it /etc/init.d/procps
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heck what the
configuration thing actually needs.
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Fabio Massimo Di Nitto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> IPv6 is an official subproject founded by Craig Small, even if we host
> experimental packages outside Debian for various reasons.
I think that might be way, way too formal for what it is. I'm not too
fussed what it is calle
Package: wnpp
Version: unavailable; reported 2003-05-21
Severity: wishlist
* Package name: ehnt
Version : x.y.z
Upstream Author : Name <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
* URL : http://www.some.org/
* License : (GPL, LGPL, BSD, MIT/X, etc.)
Description : Extreme Happy Ne
agree with Tony.
I only use the tar.gz, diff and dsc from my sponsors. So the deb-src
is a good idea.
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ly work.
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> So no, in this case our web site is behind all but netbsd in structure,
> and behind netbsd in the sory state of our cdrom mirror network.
Finding ISOs is possible but a pain in the arse and it should be a lot
simpler. jigdo is ok but quite often you just want the damn ISO ima
scribed to debian-devel so contact me direct.
thanks!
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n abuse of the procps package and would only work on
systems that are installing procps for the first time, which is a very
small minority of machines.
If ECN causes so much problems, then dont enable it in the default
kernel.
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udmsearch is a website indexer and, I'm going to package it!
More info about it at http://mysearch.udm.net/
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;t set that anywhere.
scooter$ grep CXX /usr/lib/debhelper/dh_make/*/*
scooter$
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Michael Meskes wrote:
> Here's a list of my packages. It also contains the packages for which I made
> the last non-maintainer upload.
[...]
> djtools 1.0-2
I'll take djtools if it hasn't already gone.
- Craig (sitting on the end of a dead 7513 :< )
Joop wrote:
> I have the intention to package:
>
> colrconv-0.99.2: curses based convers client
> xconvers-0.4: convers client for X and lesstif
I was going to do that one, but you can and I'll clean up tnt and dpbox.
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