Re: status of packages shipping sysv-init script without systemd unit

2025-05-07 Thread Chris Hofstaedtler
* Vincent Lefevre [250507 11:06]: I can see in journalctl output: May 07 10:25:13 qaa systemd-sysv-generator[1476564]: SysV service '/etc/init.d/dictd' lacks a native systemd unit file, automatically generating a unit file for compatibility. May 07 10:25:13 qaa systemd-sysv-generator[1476564]

Re: FTBFS when /bin is before /usr/bin in PATH?

2025-05-06 Thread Chris Hofstaedtler
* Simon Josefsson [250506 11:35]: I'm doing archive-wide package rebuilds in GitLab CI/CD and my toolchain uses 'setpriv --reset-env' to drop privileges and reset the environment variables, which results in: PATH=/usr/local/bin:/bin:/usr/bin This unusual ordering appears to be intentional for

Re: why is Perl Build-Essential: yes?

2025-05-01 Thread Chris Hofstaedtler
* Jonathan Dowland [250428 18:02]: On Mon Apr 28, 2025 at 4:46 PM BST, Sven Joachim wrote: On 2025-04-28 15:57 +0100, Jonathan Dowland wrote: Thanks! For reasons I cannot explain, installing build-essential (in a Salsa CI environment) did not pull in perl. The tag is coming from an FTP Mast

Re: Is it worth spending more time on adduser?

2025-05-01 Thread Chris Hofstaedtler
* Marc Haber [250428 12:31]: On Mon, 28 Apr 2025 11:34:18 +0200, Andreas Tille wrote: Am Mon, Apr 28, 2025 at 11:02:13AM +0200 schrieb Marc Haber: That's my biggest gripe about Debian. It strongly influences the only voice I have in that regard, the DPL vote. ... speaking as DPL I was also

Re: Need maintainer guide for debugging on i386

2025-05-01 Thread Chris Hofstaedtler
* Bastien Roucaries [250501 17:41]: Le jeudi 1 mai 2025, 17:26:34 heure d’été d’Europe centrale Jochen Sprickerhof a écrit : mmdebstrap --variant=apt --arch=i386 --chrooted-customize-hook=bash unstable /dev/null Do not get my core file in container /var/lib/systemd/coredump/ but in host / var/

Re: Is it worth spending more time on adduser?

2025-04-28 Thread Chris Hofstaedtler
* Marc Haber [250428 08:52]: This is one more example of Debian lacking technical leadership, with small groups taking technical decisions for the entire distribution without even mentioning. Yeah. There's always talk about some form of technical leadership group, but it's always unclear how

Re: Is it worth spending more time on adduser?

2025-04-28 Thread Chris Hofstaedtler
* Marc Haber [250428 08:40]: On Sun, 27 Apr 2025 15:13:00 +0200, Chris Hofstaedtler wrote: As long as people want to use adduser, I think/hope they'd be grateful for its existence and continued maintenance? As far as I was told, using sysusers is going to be mandatory soon, to help

Re: Is it worth spending more time on adduser?

2025-04-27 Thread Chris Hofstaedtler
* Marc Haber [250427 14:18]: On Sun, 27 Apr 2025 12:52:57 +0200, Geert Stappers wrote: For what it is worth: I use `adduser` outside maintainer script. I think I'm not alone in that. Useradd has grown most of that functionality in the last two decades. That leaves no space for adduser betwe

Re: Is it worth spending more time on adduser? (was: Bug#1104169: wish: adduser _radvd on new installs)

2025-04-27 Thread Chris Hofstaedtler
* Marc Haber [250427 08:16]: On Sat, 26 Apr 2025 22:29:07 +0200, Bastian Blank wrote: While you are at it, please switch to sysusers (see dh_installsysusers). While we're at this, I would like to ask the developer commiunity whether it is true that we have dedided to go away from having pers

Re: Dropping awk?

2025-04-21 Thread Chris Hofstaedtler
* Santiago Vila [250421 14:51]: El 21/4/25 a las 14:02, Chris Hofstaedtler escribió: I would suggest you hit up some of the current maintainers of Essential: yes packages, and leave the naysayers on d-devel to themselves. Note that there might be some overlap in those two sets of people

Re: Dropping awk?

2025-04-21 Thread Chris Hofstaedtler
* Josh Triplett [250421 03:07]: Let's rather talk about what Debian should officially support, and how Josh Triplett plans to implement it. I would be more than happy to work on it, in collaboration with others proposing such changes. I expect that such work consists of 10% doing careful archi

Re: Dropping awk?

2025-04-19 Thread Chris Hofstaedtler
* Michael Stone [250419 15:47]: On Fri, Apr 18, 2025 at 10:17:12PM +0100, Jonathan Dowland wrote: They likely lack perl, as well. Most/all awk usage in maintainer scripts could probably be replaced with perl. But, if you are in the minimizing game, perhaps you'd rather remove perl from the ess

Re: Bug#1094969: git linked with OpenSSL

2025-04-13 Thread Chris Hofstaedtler
:18.0 +0200 @@ -1,3 +1,11 @@ +git (1:2.49.0-1.1) UNRELEASED; urgency=medium + + * Non-maintainer upload. + * Disable building with libcurl. + + -- Chris Hofstaedtler Sun, 13 Apr 2025 22:18:18 +0200 + git (1:2.49.0-1) unstable; urgency=low * new upstream release (see RelNotes/2.48.0.adoc

Re: Should be wtmp considered as successor of who(1)?

2025-04-08 Thread Chris Hofstaedtler
* Dirk Lehmann [250408 17:20]: in relation to the discussion of 'utmp in trixie' * https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2025/04/msg00011.html It looks like, that wtmp is an well alternative to who(1). For that the command $> last -p now should be able to use in the future. But the devel

Re: utmp in trixie

2025-04-03 Thread Chris Hofstaedtler
* Michael Stone [250403 23:42]: On Thu, Apr 03, 2025 at 07:52:12PM +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote: On Apr 03, Michael Stone wrote: The issue isn't making a change, the issue is what change is the right thing to do. IMO, dropping utmp without any kind of a transition or deprecation period is the w

Re: Salsa CI job 'missing-breaks' to be enabled by default starting March 1st

2025-03-06 Thread Chris Hofstaedtler
* Otto Kekäläinen [250306 19:57]: > Salsa CI has had for many years the job 'missing-breaks' that > complements piuparts by checking that the files a package introduce > don't clash with files shipped by any other package in the > distribution without having proper Breaks/Replaces in the > `debi

Re: Debian Policy 4.7.2.0 released

2025-02-27 Thread Chris Hofstaedtler
* Charles Plessy [250227 10:12]: > Le Thu, Feb 27, 2025 at 03:02:08PM +0800, Sean Whitton a écrit : > > > > Packages that already install programs to /usr/games, where another > > package installs a program of the same with different functionality > > to a different directory on the d

Re: Mandatory LC_ALL=C.UTF-8 during package building

2025-02-23 Thread Chris Hofstaedtler
Hi, > I think a way forward could be to make the sanitizing the default, and > finally drop debian/rules as a supported (user) build entry point, I had in > mind re-proposing this already, but the above kind of gives it more urgency, > so > I'll try to do that soon. Given I ran into this discrep

Re: GCC-15 mass bug filing.

2025-02-17 Thread Chris Hofstaedtler
* Charles Plessy [250218 01:07]: > On the other hand, we also rely on "the ecosystem" to do the work by > themselves so that the packages eventually start to build fine with GCC > 15 them after we upgrade them to newer upstream versions. But who will > close the hundreds of bugs? I mean, query t

Re: Bug#1093192: #1093192 "ITS: vtgrab": no uploaders specified?

2025-02-16 Thread Chris Hofstaedtler
On Sun, Feb 16, 2025 at 05:44:34PM +0100, наб wrote: > On Sun, Feb 16, 2025 at 05:29:26PM +0100, Chris Hofstaedtler wrote: > > On Sun, Feb 16, 2025 at 05:18:39PM +0100, наб wrote: > > > Quoting the relevant: > > > > It is recommended to choose between one of the tw

Re: Packages with a history of security issues and whose packaged version is not up to date

2025-02-15 Thread Chris Hofstaedtler
* Colin Watson [250214 18:13]: > On Fri, Feb 14, 2025 at 03:28:35PM +0100, Marc Haber wrote: > > Especially if the list just goes the (wrong) way of so many commercial > > security tools and/or consultants who just compare version numbers and > > flag our stable versions as vulnerable regardless w

Re: Packages with a history of security issues and whose packaged version is not up to date

2025-02-14 Thread Chris Hofstaedtler
* Santiago Ruano Rincón [250213 20:21]: > Here attached you can find a list of packages that have ever had a > security issue **and** whose packaged version is not "up to date", > according to the uscan results. It is sorted by the number of currently > open CVEs in sid (the first "column"), and b

Re: DEP-14: Default branch name 'debian/latest' objections?

2025-01-28 Thread Chris Hofstaedtler
* Charles Plessy [250128 01:44]: > Hello everybody, > > How about debian/default or debian/devel? Yes please do a few more changes to the names, so everybody can pick whatever they like ("it was fine back then"), and everone who went under a painful migration to the current scheme can either exp

Re: Let's make 2025 a year when code reviews became common in Debian

2025-01-23 Thread Chris Hofstaedtler
* Sam Hartman [250123 23:47]: > > ... > >> > Numerous people are posting Merge Requests on Salsa. Please > >> help review them! > > I think it would improve collaboration a lot if we could make an effort > to get salsa projects into one of two states: > > * Merge requests are disabled fo

Re: Bug#1091394: nproc: add new option to reduce emitted processors by system memory

2025-01-17 Thread Chris Hofstaedtler
* Julien Plissonneau Duquène [250116 19:09]: > Le 2025-01-16 18:36, Niels Thykier a écrit : > > Putting the scripts into `devscripts` package would imply that > > `devscripts` becomes part of the `bootstrap essential` set of packages. > > I didn't think about that and it effectively rules out dev

Re: wiki.d.o on a git-backed engine

2025-01-15 Thread Chris Hofstaedtler
* Jonas Smedegaard [250115 11:40]: > Quoting Andrej Shadura (2025-01-15 11:24:31) > > Hello, > > > > On Tue, 14 Jan 2025, at 18:01, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > > >> >> >Then let's move to the tinker team mailinglist: > > >> >> >https://alioth-lists.debian.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/blend-tinker-d

Re: Let's make 2025 a year when code reviews became common in Debian

2025-01-14 Thread Chris Hofstaedtler
* Otto Kekäläinen [250114 23:14]: > Numerous people are posting Merge Requests on Salsa. Please help review them! > > There is no single dashboard to show all Merge Requests for all Debian > packages, but here are the largest teams listed to show how many they > have open (and total count in pare

Re: Towards DEP-14 acceptance and recently proposed changes

2025-01-07 Thread Chris Hofstaedtler
* Raphael Hertzog [250107 08:39]: > 1/ https://salsa.debian.org/dep-team/deps/-/merge_requests/9 > (see mr9.patch attached if you don't want to look up on the web) > > We had a couple of revisions already and it seems fine to me to merge > this, if anyone has valid objections (i.e. with good rati

Re: Building packages in the future.

2025-01-05 Thread Chris Hofstaedtler
Hi, * Otto Kekäläinen [250105 21:54]: > Thanks for encouragement. I filed > https://salsa.debian.org/salsa-ci-team/pipeline/-/issues/411 and will > continue research on libfaketime/datefudge in CI there. as we've seen in the time_t-64 transition, programs that interpose library calls like this a

Re: Remove ancient uploads from experimental (and later unstable)

2025-01-02 Thread Chris Hofstaedtler
* Holger Levsen [250102 13:03]: > On Sun, Dec 29, 2024 at 01:08:49PM +0100, Ansgar 🐱 wrote: > > I'm wondering how we can clean up suites like experimental and > > unstable. They tend to slowly accumulate cruft that nobody cleans up, > > including no longer installable packages. > > for experiment

Re: Remove ancient uploads from experimental (and later unstable)

2024-12-30 Thread Chris Hofstaedtler
* Andreas Metzler [241231 06:59]: > On 2024-12-29 Helmut Grohne wrote: > > On Sun, Dec 29, 2024 at 01:08:49PM +0100, Ansgar 🐱 wrote: > [...] > >> I would also like to do something similar to unstable; maybe start with > >> packages uploaded before some arbitrary date that are also not included >

Re: A 2025 NewYear present: make dpkg --force-unsafe-io the default?

2024-12-26 Thread Chris Hofstaedtler
* Simon Richter [241226 13:24]: > My feeling is that this is becoming less and less relevant though, because > it does not matter with SSDs. This might be true on SSDs backing a single system, but on (otherwise well-dimensioned) SANs the I/O-spikes are still very much visible. Same is true for va

Re: Barriers between packages and other people

2024-12-24 Thread Chris Hofstaedtler
* Andreas Metzler [241224 11:53]: > On 2024-12-23 Gioele Barabucci wrote: > > On 22/12/24 06:56, Andreas Metzler wrote: > >> On 2024-12-22 Sean Whitton wrote: > >>> On Sat 21 Dec 2024 at 10:23pm +01, Gioele Barabucci wrote: > > We have a mechanism for when you feel responsible: "Maintainer

Re: Moving apt (and hence bootstraps) from GnuPG to Sequioa (via gpgv-sq)

2024-12-23 Thread Chris Hofstaedtler
* Julian Andres Klode [241223 12:49]: > Something still pulls in gpgv there > which is unfortunate, we lack a 5MB savings. dpkg-dev Depends: gpgv | sq | ... That seems odd. Maybe it wants gpgv | sqv | ... instead? If its not dpkg-dev, I don't see whats pulling gpgv. Chris

Re: Barriers between packages and other people

2024-12-22 Thread Chris Hofstaedtler
* Andrey Rakhmatullin [241222 10:15]: > On Sun, Dec 22, 2024 at 07:26:15AM +0100, Andreas Metzler wrote: > > >> Uploads to the archive are not irreversible. You can just as well > > >> upload a new version reverting whatever was done. > > > > >> Please everybody stop treating the archive as the h

Re: Barriers between packages and other people

2024-12-21 Thread Chris Hofstaedtler
* Boyuan Yang [241221 18:10]: > 在 12/21/2024 12:02 PM, Jeremy Sowden 写道: > > On 2024-12-21, at 17:55:39 +0100, Marc Haber wrote: > > > On Sat, 21 Dec 2024 12:08:35 +0100, Tobias Frost wrote: > > > > We DO already have the debian namespace on salsa, everything in this > > > > namespace is "team mai

Bug#1090811: debian-installer: install linux-sysctl-defaults by default

2024-12-19 Thread Chris Hofstaedtler
On Thu, Dec 19, 2024 at 04:28:52PM -0500, Noah Meyerhans wrote: > On Thu, Dec 19, 2024 at 09:53:27PM +0100, Chris Hofstaedtler wrote: > > > > > In theory, if we don't want to explicitly install the package in d-i, > > > > > another possibility might be to

Bug#1090811: debian-installer: install linux-sysctl-defaults by default

2024-12-19 Thread Chris Hofstaedtler
On Thu, Dec 19, 2024 at 12:12:13PM -0500, Noah Meyerhans wrote: [..] > > > In theory, if we don't want to explicitly install the package in d-i, > > > another possibility might be to bump it to Priority: standard and let > > > tasksel install it. I'm not sure what the tradeoffs might be that would

Re: Musings about Usernames in adduser and Debian

2024-12-10 Thread Chris Hofstaedtler
* Marc Haber [241209 21:21]: > On Mon, 9 Dec 2024 18:08:33 +0100, Chris Hofstaedtler > wrote: > >I echo Alejandro's concerns. We should stop having the flag > >completely, not encourage using it. > > I violently disagree. But I have to accept this. > > >IO

Re: Musings about Usernames in adduser and Debian

2024-12-09 Thread Chris Hofstaedtler
* Marc Haber [241205 18:06]: > P.S.: Sadly, this has gotten less than positive coverage on LWN. I > apologize for the harm this discussion has done. Marc, my thank you for collecting the info on the wiki, and starting this discussion. I'm sorry I was not able to participate more. However, I reje

Re: Musings about Usernames in adduser and Debian

2024-12-09 Thread Chris Hofstaedtler
* Marc Haber [241203 22:06]: > On Tue, Dec 03, 2024 at 08:41:06PM +0100, Étienne Mollier wrote: > > Marc Haber, on 2024-12-03: > > > I'll probably deprecate --allow-bad-names in favor of something that > > > doesn't use the word "bad" (suggestions appreciated). Otoh, adduser in > > > the Red Hat W

Re: Musings about Usernames in adduser and Debian

2024-12-09 Thread Chris Hofstaedtler
* Ben Kallus [241208 21:35]: > I second calling it "allow-unsafe-names" This was never on the table, and shadow upstream might even drop the entire "support" for having bad names. > for the following reasons: [..] > 2. There's a path traversal bug in useradd (but not adduser) that can > be tri

Re: Musings about Usernames in adduser and Debian

2024-12-02 Thread Chris Hofstaedtler
* Marc Haber [241202 09:43]: > On Sun, Dec 01, 2024 at 06:55:09PM -0500, nick black wrote: > > Marc Haber left as an exercise for the reader: > > > > * any upstream tool could say "bad idea" and refuse patches, > > > >requiring their long term management, > > > > > > Depending of how importa

Re: The advantages of splitting /bin and /usr/bin, and /sbin and /usr/sbin outweigh the disadvantages

2024-12-02 Thread Chris Hofstaedtler
* Simon Richter [241202 12:20]: > Hi, > > On 12/2/24 18:39, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > > > This is not correct. Whether any of /usr/bin,/usr/sbin,/bin or /sbin > > share a partition or not has no relationship to whether a user can > > invoke a command, or whether that path is searched for unquali

Re: Simpler git workflow for packaging with upstreamless repositories

2024-11-28 Thread Chris Hofstaedtler
* Andrey Rakhmatullin [241128 11:06]: > On Thu, Nov 28, 2024 at 10:49:09AM +0100, gregor herrmann wrote: > > > > As person B I don't want to go hunting for a tarball and place it in > > > > the right place, I want gbp to re-create it from the pristine-tar > > > > branch. > > > Who cares? gbp expor

Re: Simpler git workflow for packaging with upstreamless repositories

2024-11-28 Thread Chris Hofstaedtler
* Paul Gevers [241128 12:52]: > Hi, > > On 11/28/24 10:56, Pirate Praveen wrote: > > pristine-tar almost always fail when there are multiple orig tar files. > > I did not report bugs since the limitation of not working 100% is a > > known issue already. > > I'm surprised to hear this. src:cacti

Re: Building with many cores without OOM

2024-11-28 Thread Chris Hofstaedtler
* Helmut Grohne [241128 10:59]: > I think this demonstrates that we probably have something between 10 and > 50 packages in unstable that would benefit from a generic parallelism > limit based on available RAM. Do others agree that this is a problem > worth solving in a more general way? Yes. Loo

Re: Simpler git workflow for packaging with upstreamless repositories

2024-11-27 Thread Chris Hofstaedtler
* Marc Haber [241127 13:52]: > On Wed, Nov 27, 2024 at 01:48:33PM +0100, Chris Hofstaedtler wrote: > > * Marc Haber [241127 13:28]: > > > On Wed, Nov 27, 2024 at 04:58:00PM +0500, Andrey Rakhmatullin wrote: > > > > Yup, as I said it makes sense. It jus

Re: Simpler git workflow for packaging with upstreamless repositories

2024-11-27 Thread Chris Hofstaedtler
* Marc Haber [241127 13:28]: > On Wed, Nov 27, 2024 at 04:58:00PM +0500, Andrey Rakhmatullin wrote: > > Yup, as I said it makes sense. It just feels fragile to me when the > > "pristine" tarball for a given upstream tag in a given repo is not > > determined until someone uploads it. > > I would l

Re: Simpler git workflow for packaging with upstreamless repositories

2024-11-27 Thread Chris Hofstaedtler
* Colin Watson [241126 23:34]: > On Tue, Nov 26, 2024 at 09:25:12PM +0100, Simon Josefsson wrote: > > Colin Watson writes: > > > CI for a new-upstream-release commit you've pushed but haven't uploaded > > > to the Debian archive yet, because you're waiting for CI. > > > > > > pristine-tar certain

Re: Simpler git workflow for packaging with upstreamless repositories

2024-11-26 Thread Chris Hofstaedtler
* Simon Josefsson [241126 16:27]: > Chris Hofstaedtler writes: > > > * Jonathan Dowland [241126 12:59]: > >> On Tue Nov 26, 2024 at 10:50 AM GMT, Andrey Rakhmatullin wrote: > >> > Yes, as they don't enable pristine-tar > >> > >> Is prist

Re: Simpler git workflow for packaging with upstreamless repositories

2024-11-26 Thread Chris Hofstaedtler
* Jonathan Dowland [241126 12:59]: > On Tue Nov 26, 2024 at 10:50 AM GMT, Andrey Rakhmatullin wrote: > > Yes, as they don't enable pristine-tar > > Is pristine-tar still valuable these days? Unfortunately yes. AFAIK the two options for fixing this that are usually proposed are: 1) treat it as a

Re: Misc Developer News (#60)

2024-11-25 Thread Chris Hofstaedtler
* Soren Stoutner [241125 18:30]: > > > In principle, unshare mode can also work with directories. Helmut is > working > > > on something in that direction. But for me personally, one second of > unpack > > > time is not enough of a motivation for me to put time into > > > directory+overlayfs sup

Re: Suitability of Rust for *all* architectures? [WAS Re: Rustc unsoundness on i386]

2024-11-24 Thread Chris Hofstaedtler
* Paul Gevers [241124 18:51]: > [Release Team hat on] I would take consensus for a decision on the topic. Based on my casual reading up on what other distros did before us, many years ago, ISTM raising the baseline to at least SSE2 would be a very good idea. Next up: raising the amd64 baseline.

Re: Musings about Usernames in adduser and Debian

2024-11-24 Thread Chris Hofstaedtler
* Simon McVittie [241124 15:20]: > As a data point, in our default GNOME desktop, System Settings > (gnome-control-center) prompts for a "Full Name" first (behind the > scenes that's the full name part of the pw_gecos field), and a "Username" > second (this is the pw_name); and the default display

Re: Musings about Usernames in adduser and Debian

2024-11-24 Thread Chris Hofstaedtler
* Iustin Pop [241124 14:41]: > On 2024-11-24 14:37:24, Chris Hofstaedtler wrote: > > * Bjørn Mork [241124 11:45]: > > > Johannes Schauer Marin Rodrigues writes: > > > > > > > But my 2 cents on the topic are: Lets please allow more than ascii in > >

Re: Musings about Usernames in adduser and Debian

2024-11-24 Thread Chris Hofstaedtler
* Bjørn Mork [241124 11:45]: > Johannes Schauer Marin Rodrigues writes: > > > But my 2 cents on the topic are: Lets please allow more than ascii in > > usernames. I find it very uncomfortable every time I have to tell my > > students > > that sorry, you somehow have to manage writing your name

Re: [Summary]: Supporting alternative zlib implementations

2024-11-23 Thread Chris Hofstaedtler
* Fay Stegerman [241123 19:58]: > I agree that it *should not* be Debian's responsibility to ensure > compatibility > with Fedora/Windows/etc., but the reality is that if "you need the same tools > to > generate the same output" -- which right now means using the same JDK and > Android toolchain

Re: Rustc unsoundness on i386

2024-11-23 Thread Chris Hofstaedtler
* Fabian Grünbichler [241123 15:31]: > A) move i386 rustc to Rust's i586 target (which doesn't have SSE out of the > box), instead of the i686-with-SSE2-disabled it currently uses > B) bump the i386 baseline in Debian to require SSE2, and stop disabling SSE2 > there in rustc > C) disable all opt

Re: Moving apt (and hence bootstraps) from GnuPG to Sequioa (via gpgv-sq)

2024-11-22 Thread Chris Hofstaedtler
* Jonas Smedegaard [241122 18:01]: > > All release architectures support Rust. We should not accept > > release architectures without Rust support. > > > > A minor set of ports architectures does not have Rust support > > yet. > > Rust is unsupported on i386 and patched to silently assume i686

Re: Simpler git workflow for packaging with upstreamless repositories

2024-11-21 Thread Chris Hofstaedtler
* Holger Levsen [241121 12:26]: > and you seem to think adding another Debian specific complex tool will > attrack new people? Most people^wcontributors out there know git already, > for them a simple git only workflow is *much* more inviting than having > to learn gbp *only* to contribute to Debi

Re: Debian packaging for git-credential-libsecret

2024-11-09 Thread Chris Hofstaedtler
* M Hickford [241109 12:45]: > On Mon, 1 Apr 2024 at 21:42, M Hickford wrote: > > > > Hi. It'd be great to package Git credential helper > > git-credential-libsecret in Debian. There's a patch prepared, but it > > needs the attention of a Debian developer. Is anyone here able to > > help? https:

Re: Why is knot migration blocked by done 1081191?

2024-11-08 Thread Chris Hofstaedtler
* Niels Thykier [241108 14:12]: > Jakub Ružička: > > I've fixed #1081191 through changelog entry in knot/3.4.0-3 and it's > > marked as Done but the bug still blocks knot migration for reasons I > > don't understand: > > https://qa.debian.org/excuses.php?package=knot > > The problem is that the B

s390x architecture status?

2024-10-28 Thread Chris Hofstaedtler
Hello! I want to draw attention to, from my point of view, open questions/problems with the s390x architecture. In short, it seems to me, that: a) there are no porters left (to fix serious problems) b) various packages already ignore s390x (gnome? others?) c) general, including upstreams, interes

Re: Bug#1072521: fakeroot hangs on some commands with faked-sysv using 100% CPU

2024-10-27 Thread Chris Hofstaedtler
Control: found 1072521 fakeroot/1.25.3-1.1 Control: found 1072521 fakeroot/1.31-1.2 (CCing d-devel@ for awareness) Hi Clint, On Wed, Jun 05, 2024 at 07:54:07PM +, Debian Bug Tracking System wrote: > fakeroot (1.35-1) unstable; urgency=medium > . >* New upstream version. > - Use cl

Re: Most optimal way to import NMU into existing git-builpackage repository?

2024-10-25 Thread Chris Hofstaedtler
* Andreas Henriksson [241025 08:56]: > > I wanted to check if anyone knows any better techniques or mechanisms > > than trying to remember to run this command manually before working on > > a package? > > I would very much prefer if it was possible in Debian to not allow > the archive to get out

Bug#1083104: RFH: multipath-tools -- maintain multipath block device access

2024-10-01 Thread Chris Hofstaedtler
Package: wnpp Severity: normal X-Debbugs-Cc: multipath-to...@packages.debian.org, debian-devel@lists.debian.org, team+linux-blo...@tracker.debian.org, a...@debian.org, r...@debian.org, mitchell.dzur...@canonical.com Control: affects -1 + src:multipath-tools I request assistance with maintaining

Re: spurious autoremovals due to python3-nose

2024-09-27 Thread Chris Hofstaedtler
* Alexandre Detiste [240927 10:07]: > "nose" is RC buggy. It was until a few days ago in the "key packages set". [..] > What was not expected is that nose started the autoremoval counter of > seemingly ~700 unrelated packages. > > How this does work :-| ? I imagine exactly like you are seeing it

Re: proposal: Hybrid network stack for Trixie

2024-09-23 Thread Chris Hofstaedtler
* Pierre-Elliott Bécue [240923 11:34]: > Lukas Märdian wrote on 20/09/2024 at 13:12:36+0200: > > # Why > > The ifupdown package is a Debian only solution that is becoming a > > maintenance > > burden. We've had plenty of discussions over the years and consensus is > > that we > > want to get ri

Re: proposal: Hybrid network stack for Trixie

2024-09-23 Thread Chris Hofstaedtler
* Holger Levsen [240923 12:05]: > > ifupdown2 will still be around for anybody who wants to install it. > > sure. Except that right now it has an open r-c bug since June 25, and is missing from testing since August 6th. If people want to continue having it, somebody who wants to work on it need

Re: proposal: Hybrid network stack for Trixie

2024-09-23 Thread Chris Hofstaedtler
* Holger Levsen [240923 10:06]: > I miss ifupdown2 in this discussion. In the older thread, it was pointed out that ifupdown2 might be currently in a bad place maintenance-wise; https://github.com/CumulusNetworks/ifupdown2/pulse/monthly and https://github.com/CumulusNetworks/ifupdown2/graphs/cont

Re: proposal: Hybrid network stack for Trixie

2024-09-22 Thread Chris Hofstaedtler
* Marc Haber [240922 13:08]: > On Sun, 22 Sep 2024 12:22:50 +0200, Chris Hofstaedtler > wrote: > >The "server" group supposedly wants (and I agree) networkd, > >but they also want the configuration interface of networkd. > > Ack. I'd love networkd to

Re: proposal: Hybrid network stack for Trixie

2024-09-22 Thread Chris Hofstaedtler
* Lukas Märdian [240920 13:13]: > I've repeated the reasons why I think a hybrid stack using Netplan is a > feasible solution many times in previous threads, therefore I'd like to refer > to a list of frequently asked questions, instead of spreading more reasons > across more replies: https://wiki

Re: ifupdown maintenance

2024-09-16 Thread Chris Hofstaedtler
* Michael Stone [240916 05:04]: > On Tue, Jul 09, 2024 at 10:57:39AM +0200, Matthias Urlichs wrote: > >Agreed: either it's drop-in compatible or we may as well switch the > >default to NM and/or systemd-networkd. > > > > Well, here's a heretical thought: why don't we do that anyway, at le

Re: Intent to MBF: move from fuse to fuse3

2024-09-08 Thread Chris Hofstaedtler
* László Böszörményi (GCS) [240829 20:55]: > On Sun, Aug 25, 2024 at 11:14 PM Chris Hofstaedtler wrote: > > Yeah, I agree. Do you want to upload a new src:fuse package dropping > > the fuse binary package? > > fuse3 already Provides: fuse, so that should be fine. > T

Re: Community survey on network stack for Trixie

2024-09-04 Thread Chris Hofstaedtler
* Marco d'Itri [240903 14:04]: > My position is that I am happy for Debian to have the option of netplan > but I do not think that it should be installed by default, because it is > an abstraction which adds complexity and that nobody asked for other > than its developers. > > And this is an o

Re: Intent to MBF: move from fuse to fuse3

2024-08-25 Thread Chris Hofstaedtler
Hi, * László Böszörményi (GCS) [240825 18:30]: > Thanks for adding me, I can't follow -devel. Sorry for not thinking about that earlier > On Wed, Aug 21, 2024 at 11:24 PM Chris Hofstaedtler wrote: > > Updated MBF text proposal: > [...] > > Does that sound good?

Re: Representing Debian Metadata in Git

2024-08-21 Thread Chris Hofstaedtler
* rsbec...@nexbridge.com [240822 01:21]: > >> Any feelings/objections/missed requirements? > > > >In the current DEP14/DEP18 discussions a lot of discussion was had about how > >we > >should represent Debian things in git; your mail also goes into this > >direction. > > > >My *feeling* is we sho

Re: Representing Debian Metadata in Git

2024-08-21 Thread Chris Hofstaedtler
Hi Simon, * Simon Richter [240820 09:11]: > One of the long-standing issues is that there are multiple ways Debian > packaging can be represented in a git tree, and none of them are optimal. [..] > A possible implementation would be a type of Git "user extension" object > that contains > > - an

Re: Intent to MBF: move from fuse to fuse3

2024-08-21 Thread Chris Hofstaedtler
Stephen, and everyone else who pointed out that coinstallability is a non-issue - thanks! About the additional work in fuse/fuse3, #918984 and #927291, I wonder if they are relevant to the libfuse consumers. Anyway, if we believe fuse3 works just fine with libfuse2-* consumers, then it seems like

Re: Removing more packages from unstable

2024-08-21 Thread Chris Hofstaedtler
* Scott Kitterman [240820 14:35]: > On August 20, 2024 12:16:47 PM UTC, Andrey Rakhmatullin > wrote: > >On Tue, Aug 20, 2024 at 12:12:33PM +, Scott Kitterman wrote: > >> There are people doing this, we could use more, but it does > >> happen. I've processed lots of these and it's virtually

Re: Re: Accepting DEP14?

2024-08-17 Thread Chris Hofstaedtler
> > Additionally, in my opinion debian/latest is a mistake we should not > > recommend. > > Please elaborate why you consider it a mistake. That's not obvious to > me. "latest" is illnamed. What do you expect to find in a branch thats called debian/latest? Packaging for unstable? For experiment

Re: Re: Accepting DEP14?

2024-08-17 Thread Chris Hofstaedtler
> That's correct but the teams I'm working in recommend something > like: > Add the following to the configuration file ~/.gbp.conf or > debian/gbp.conf: Putting per-repository relevant settings into a global config and not into the per-repo config seems to fly into the face of the DEP18

Re: Accepting DEP14?

2024-08-17 Thread Chris Hofstaedtler
On Fri, 16 Aug 2024 23:36:31 +0200, gregor herrmann wrote: > IMO, and from discussions in the Debian Perl Group, the blocker is > the conversion of existing repos, both on salsa (which should be > doable via the API as suggested in the sketches mentioned above) and > also locally for hundreds of de

Intent to MBF: move from fuse to fuse3

2024-08-13 Thread Chris Hofstaedtler
Fellow developers, fuse (2.x) is long obsolete, yet we still have a long tail of packages (Build-)Depending on it. Given fuse and fuse3 are not coinstallable, IMO we should get packages off fuse. Below is my proposed MBF wording, and a dd-list. Chris --- Subject: SOURCE: move from fuse to fuse

Re: Bug#1074175: netkit-rwho: remove for trixie?

2024-07-06 Thread Chris Hofstaedtler
On Fri, Jul 05, 2024 at 09:24:18AM +0200, Simon Josefsson wrote: > First, I think we need to understand the rationale for doing anything > about 'netkit-rwho': do we want to do something because 1) it is not > maintained upstream? or 2) because it is an insecure design?, or 3) > something else? At

Re: Bug#1068017: Y2038-safe replacements for utmp/wtmp and lastlog

2024-05-30 Thread Chris Hofstaedtler
* Jun MO [240530 19:09]: > On Thu, 30 May 2024 13:18:17 +0200, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > > I agree, this may be useful. Unfortunately, the current status is > > that one cannot have both: installing wtmpdb forces the upgrade of > > util-linux to 2.40.1-3 (at least), where "last" is no longer instal

Re: Bug#1068017: Y2038-safe replacements for utmp/wtmp and lastlog

2024-05-30 Thread Chris Hofstaedtler
* Vincent Lefevre [240530 13:21]: > On 2024-05-08 16:53:53 +0800, Jun MO wrote: > > For last(1) my concern is that it will be helped to keep the original > > last(1) for back-compatibility to read old wtmp files. > > I agree, this may be useful. Unfortunately, the current status is > that one can

Bug#1068017: Y2038-safe replacements for utmp/wtmp and lastlog

2024-04-27 Thread Chris Hofstaedtler
On Fri, Apr 26, 2024 at 08:06:15PM +0100, RL wrote: > the chkrootkit package provides several utilities for examining some of > these files: chkutmp chkwtmp and check_wtmpx and chklastlog [a] -- it does > not use pam but reads the files in /var/log > > How would I test these against the new files

Y2038-safe replacements for utmp/wtmp and lastlog

2024-04-26 Thread Chris Hofstaedtler
Fellow Developers, you are probably aware of the time_t-64bit migration :-) However, this does not magically transition all data formats to 64bit times. One such instance is the set of utmp/wtmp and lastlog files. Thorsten Kukuk and others have been working on replacements for the existing file f

Bug#1068289: ITP: wtmpdb -- Y2038 safe wtmp implementation

2024-04-02 Thread Chris Hofstaedtler
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Chris Hofstaedtler X-Debbugs-Cc: debian-devel@lists.debian.org * Package name: wtmpdb Version : 0.11.0 Upstream Contact: Thorsten Kukuk * URL : https://github.com/thkukuk/wtmpdb * License : BSD Programming Lang: C

Re: /usr-merge and filesystem bootstrap

2023-09-12 Thread Chris Hofstaedtler
Hi Helmut, speaking with my util-linux in Debian hat... * Helmut Grohne [230912 20:16]: [..] > I request that affected maintainers reply to this mail: > * Are you ok with the proposed changes in principle? >+ Moving all files from / to /usr leaving no files in aliased > locations >

util-linux drops /sbin/raw

2021-09-21 Thread Chris Hofstaedtler
Hi everyone, Linux 5.14 dropped the "raw" block/char driver [1], and removedthe userspace API. This driver has been deprecated since 2005. util-linux used to ship an /sbin/raw binary to setup raw character devices. Given the userspace API has been removed, the binary cannot be built anymore [2] (

Re: Bug#994758: libsgutils2-2: how to prevent the share lib from changing version to impact the package?

2021-09-20 Thread Chris Hofstaedtler
* Hsieh-Tseng Shen [210920 16:54]: > The ledmon package was reported by > https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=994521 to cause ledmon > service was unable to run due to the broken dependency of libsgutils2-2. > > It seems like the softlink will keep changing since 1.45: Upstream cha

Bug#989370: closed by Chris Hofstaedtler (Re: Bug#989370: general: In bonding network configuration, hwaddress crashes networking service, fails to restart)

2021-06-04 Thread Chris Hofstaedtler
Control: reopen 989370 Control: reassign 989370 ifupdown Reassigning to ifupdown, which is the package having the /etc/network/interfaces conffile. Chris

Bug#964115: Web browser video playback broken in bullseye

2020-09-23 Thread Chris Hofstaedtler
Hello Ryan Goodfellow, thank you for your report. However, please see below. * Ryan Goodfellow : > Video playback does not seem to be working in any browser in Debian > Bullseye. > >* What led up to the situation? > apt update > apt dist-upgrade [..] >- Chromium crashes, which seems to be re

Bug#963846: bugs.debian.org: usb-audio : Lexicon Omega only 2 analog inputs in Debian 10, while showing 4 analog inputs in Debian 9

2020-09-23 Thread Chris Hofstaedtler
Control: reassign -1 jackd Reassigning to jackd (metapackage), as it's not clear (to me) which version of jack is involved, and further details are likely needed. Hopefully the jack / Debian Multimedia maintainers can figure something out from here. Please do not reassign this bug back to general

Bug#966004: bugs.debian.org: .XCompose fails to make long substitutions

2020-08-30 Thread Chris Hofstaedtler
Control: reassign -1 libx11-6 XCompose appears to be a libX11 feature, reassigning there. Best, Chris

Bug#963846: bugs.debian.org: usb-audio : Lexicon Omega only 2 analog inputs in Debian 10, while showing 4 analog inputs in Debian 9

2020-08-30 Thread Chris Hofstaedtler
Hi, thanks for your interest in making Debian better and filing this report: * G Bradsly : > In Debian 9 I had 4 analog inputs, 2 analog outputs, an in and out s/pdif and > an in and out midi > In Debian 10 I have only 2 analog inputs, the analog outputs, s/pdif i/o and > midi i/o are the same. >

Bug#942698: bugs.debian.org: Multiple Call Traces in dmesg

2020-08-30 Thread Chris Hofstaedtler
Control: reassign -1 linux-image-4.19.0-6-amd64 Control: retitle -1 i915 workqueue issue / i915_hotplug_work_func __flush_work.cold.53 Hi sanshu, thank you for your interest in making Debian better and filing this report: * sanshu [200830 22:46]: > [2.158101] [ cut here ]--

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