The Philadelphia Area Debian Society (PADS)
(http://www.CJFearnley.com/pads/)
Presents
Attempting a Debian Install on a Libretto 100CT
When:
Wednesday 16 April 2003, 8:00 PM - 9:30 PM
Presenter:
Mike Leo
August 2000, 8:00 PM - 9:30 PM
Facilitator:
Chris Fearnley, Chief Technology Officer, LinuxForce Inc.
Where:
IQ Group's Technology Lab
The Constitution Building, 12th floor, Suite 1200
325 Chestnut Street
Philadelphia, PA
Abstract
We
9:30 PM
Speaker: Chris Fearnley, Chief Technology Officer, LinuxForce Inc.
Where: IQ Group, 6th floor (its the room with a big Q on the door)
325 Chestnut Street
Philadelphia, PA
Abstract
Debian's kernel-package package provides make-kpkg to help build kern
On Sun, Sep 12, 1999 at 05:43:21PM -0400, Brian Almeida wrote:
> How to switch to GnuPG for developers..a very brief mini-HOWTO
> --
Very nice mini-HOWTO. But I still have several questions:
How does one generate an RSA key using the gp
Greetings,
There seems to be enough interest to form PDG-LUG (The Philadelphia
Debian GNU/Linux User's Group).
In order to try to accommodate people with families and suburban Debian
GNU/Linux users, we will have an optional ``social hour'' at a Center
City eatery BEFORE the 8:00 PM meeting.
PDG
No, I am not running NIS. Just simple text /etc/passwd and /etc/shadow.
On Thu, Jun 18, 1998 at 12:38:45PM -0500, Richard Kaszeta wrote:
> Christopher J. Fearnley writes ("Re: Serious performance bug in Perl"):
> >to call it (instead of the default perl - 5.004.04-6). Performance
> >improved sev
'Darren/Torin/Who Ever... wrote:'
>
>Chris Fearnley, in an immanent manifestation of deity, wrote:
>>But yesterday I upgraded a bo system to hamm which has a 3000 line
>>/etc/passwd. Now adduser takes OVER ONE MINUTE to find a UID and GID
>>for the new user. And
'Wichert Akkerman wrote:'
>
>Previously Chris Fearnley wrote:
>> But yesterday I upgraded a bo system to hamm which has a 3000 line
>> /etc/passwd. Now adduser takes OVER ONE MINUTE to find a UID and GID
>> for the new user. And my staff is complaining about the
Hi,
Originally I thought that it was OK that bug #19085 which I submitted
about poor performance in perl was downgraded from "important" to
"normal" severity because it only affected one application that I
wrote.
But yesterday I upgraded a bo system to hamm which has a 3000 line
/etc/passwd. Now
'Santiago Vila wrote:'
Sorry, I seem to be perpetually several days behind in reading
debian-devel.
>If nobody objects, I intent to take mawk and gawk.
I intend to keep these two.
>[ There have been no maintainer uploads since March 1997, is one year
> enough? ].
Sorry.
I promise to learn PG
'Manoj Srivastava wrote:'
>
> Well, I think if one is not constrained to follow policy, nor
> required to do so, I see no reason to actually follow policy. Why is
> it so bad to require policy to be followed?
How would you enforce it? Why require something which your police
force cannot enf
ue Zanardi wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 24, 1998 at 11:53:19AM -0400, Chris Fearnley wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > The April 11th boot disk crashes when I enter the kernel command line
> > option "mem=128M" (I also tried mem=32M and mem=64M -- all crashed in the
> > sa
Hi,
The April 11th boot disk crashes when I enter the kernel command line
option "mem=128M" (I also tried mem=32M and mem=64M -- all crashed in the
same way (see below)).
This system has 128M of RAM, but the BIOS only reports 16M to Linux.
When I try to correction this on the boot disk command-li
'Santiago Vila wrote:'
>
>Please, tell me how much harm does to add a Pre-Depends field on libc6,
>ncurses3.4 and libreadlineg2 for netstd. I can tell you how much
>inconvenience does *not* to add it and then we can make a comparison
>between those two inconveniences.
Too much, IMHO.
--
Christop
On Sat, Apr 18, 1998 at 11:02:51PM -0400, Gregory S. Stark wrote:
>
> Chris Fearnley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > Hoo boy, I've been having bad luck with the bootdisks.
> >
> > This time, After I hit [ENTER] to load the ramdisks, the system hangs with
&
Hi,
Hoo boy, I've been having bad luck with the bootdisks.
This time, After I hit [ENTER] to load the ramdisks, the system hangs with
the floppy drive light lit after displaying "Loading root.bin..."
Note the three dots. I take the same boot disk and it works like a charm
on another system.
Th
'Guy Maor wrote:'
>
>"LeRoy D. Cressy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>> I question the purpose of leaving broken symbolic links when
>> upgrading the libraries. For instance libreadline2 leaves
>> the following broken links reported by ldconfig:
>
>Those symlinks are part of libreadline2-dev. If
'Paul Seelig wrote:'
>
>-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
>
>Format: 1.5
>Date: Mon, 06 Apr 1998 17:23:15 +0100
>Source: mc
>Binary: mc
>Architecture: source i386
>Version: 4.1.28-1
>Distribution: frozen unstable
>Urgency: low
>Maintainer: Paul Seelig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Description:
> mc
'Christian Schwarz wrote:'
>
>On Fri, 2 Jan 1998, Chris Fearnley wrote:
>
>> '[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:'
>> >
>> >Actually, I'm not sure there is a problem with libc5-altdev. There
>> >definitely
>> >is a dependency cl
'[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:'
>
>Actually, I'm not sure there is a problem with libc5-altdev. There definitely
>is a dependency clash between libc5 and libc6, which David Engel thinks we
>should patch by producing an upgrade for libc5. This will have to be installed
>before hamm. It's not yet clear to
'Roberto Lumbreras wrote:'
>
>Hi!
>
>I'd like to maintain package radiusd-merit (orphaned in 1.61
>version of prospective-packages), if nobody is working on it yet.
Excellent. Maybe you can find the buffer overflow when shadow support
is included?
--
Christopher J. Fearnley | Linux/In
'Remco Blaakmeer wrote:'
>
>On Sat, 13 Dec 1997, David Engel wrote:
>
>> Definitely not! libc5-dev implies that libc5 is the default
>> compilation environment installed in /usr/include.
>
>Sorry, I must have been half asleep when I wrote the above. libc5-altdev
>doesn't have to conflict with eith
'Scott K. Ellis wrote:'
>
>On Fri, 12 Dec 1997, Chris Fearnley wrote:
>> Why can't we do the following:
>>
>> In both bo-updates and hamm:
>> libc5: No conflicts, no depends (predepends on ldso, of course)
>> (solves the problem of no
'Martin Mitchell wrote:'
>
>If they want to remain with a libc5 development environment, they have two
>choices, stay with bo, or use altdev from hamm. You regard utmp corruption
>as a minor issue, I would not, especially if I expected that staying with
>mainly bo would give me a stable system. No
'Martin Mitchell wrote:'
>
>Chris Fearnley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>> Is breaking easy upgradeability really better than corrupting utmp?
>
>Yes, it means the system should work properly at all stages of the upgrade.
Still, the fact that libc5-5.4.33-7
'Rob Browning wrote:'
>
>Scott Ellis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> If you don't upgrade anything that deals with utmp to libc6, you
>> don't have any problems).
>
>The problem is that maybe *you* know what packages those are, but most
>users expect to be able to upgrade without major system servic
Moved to debian-devel
'Scott Ellis wrote:'
>
>On 13 Dec 1997, Martin Mitchell wrote:
>
>> Wichert Akkerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>>
>> > > Huh? The upgrade path is quite clear: install a newer libc5 (5.4.33-7)
>> > > from hamm, then you may install libc6.
>> >
>> > Maybe we can fix this by
'Scott Ellis wrote:'
>
>On 12 Dec 1997, Martin Mitchell wrote:
>
>> Chris Fearnley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>>
>> > >Huh? The upgrade path is quite clear: install a newer libc5 (5.4.33-7)
>> > >from hamm, then you may install libc
'Sven Rudolph wrote:'
>
>G John Lapeyre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>> > I am planning to package agrep, a grep-like tool that allows to
>>
>> We have it already. I think it comes with glimpse .
>
>So it should be split into an extra package ?
No.
--
Christopher J. Fearnley |
'Hamish Moffatt wrote:'
>
>> Chris Fearnley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>> dome-4.60-1
>
>Compiled fine but appears to segfault on execution.
Hmm, are there problems with g++? I'll be upgrading to hamm RSN and
hope to have time before the code freeze to deal
'Tim Cutts wrote:'
>On 14 Jun 1997, John Goerzen wrote:
>> Christoph Lameter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> > It might be good if we would replace smail in hamm with exim. Exim should
>> > be the standard mailer for hamm:
>>
>> Exim doesn't provide UUCP capabilities *at all*, thus it is rather
>>
'=?iso-8859-1?Q?=22Ole?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?J=F8rgen?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?Tetlie=22?=
wrote:'
>
>Hello,
>
>for SmallEiffel (which I am packaging) to work at all, it needs an
>env-variable to be set. Should it be set with a preinst-script? I
>wouldn't like that to happen to my system, but I don't see any o
'Carey Evans wrote:'
>
>I've removed group write permissions from my home dir because of the
>programs like qmail and ssh which don't like it. I don't think
>anything would break because of removing these permissions, so maybe
>adduser should make home directories mode 755 (or 750)?
Or 751.
--
'J.H.M.Dassen wrote:'
>
>On May 26, Manoj Srivastava wrote
>> Would the doc directory be better for man pages? Why games?
>
>Check out the manpages at http://www.bofh.net/man/:
>lart - Luser Attitude Readjustment Tool - use a lart to adjust lusers'
>attitudes
>sysadmin - responsible f
'Raul Miller wrote:'
>
>> '=?iso-8859-1?Q?Nicol=E1s_Lichtmaier?= wrote:'
>> > So I say: PS1="[\\u] \\h:\\w\\$ " =D
>On May 21, Chris Fearnley wrote
>> No, PS1='[EMAIL PROTECTED]:\w\$ ' !
>>
>I'd prefer PS
'=?iso-8859-1?Q?Nicol=E1s_Lichtmaier?= wrote:'
>
> So I say: PS1="[\\u] \\h:\\w\\$ " =D
No, PS1='[EMAIL PROTECTED]:\w\$ ' !
I guess this will become a flame war. So I'd prefer to leave prompt
alone. Or maybe the boot disks can have a dialog script to help the
user choose a prompt?
--
'Karl M. Hegbloom wrote:'
>
>Since the output from cron jobs is mailed anyhow, as it should be, I
>think that all cron scripts should report in as they are run, and that
>this should be made a standard. Here's why.
But if they complete successfully they should be quiet. Maybe this
would work:
s
'Amos Shapira wrote:'
>
>I was asking over Linux-ISP about doing cleanup after breakins and got
>many "use tripwire" answers, and one which says that RPM has a verify
>mode which checks for files which were changed since they were
>installed. Can the dpkg maintainers consider adding such a feature
'Yves Arrouye wrote:'
>
> Hi,
> I have recently made the package compface (can be found in unstabe) containg
> the shared library libcompface. Now I am trying to make a package xfaces
> that
> uses this library. But I can't get dpkg-shlibdeps working. This is what is
> says:
>
> # dpk
Package: dpkg
Version: 1.4.0
dpkg -h says:
Comparison operators for --compare-versions are:
lt le eq ne ge gt (treat no version as earlier than any version);
lt-nl le-nl ge-nl gt-nl (tread no version as later than any version);
< << <= = >= >> > (only for compatibility with control
'llucius wrote:'
>
>Package: gawk
>Version: 3.0.0-4
>
>1) "debian/rules" clean target does not ignore errors when doing the
>"make distclean" which causes the build to fail since there's nothing
>to clean (not even a Makefile).
Would you believe I ran into this problem when making my la
Package: libgdbm1
Version: 1.7.3-11
Conflicts: libgdbm, perl5 (<= 5.002-2), man (<= 2.3.10-5)
^
Should read "perl". There isn't and never was a perl5 package.
--
Christopher J. Fearnley|Linux/Internet Consulting
[EMAIL PROTECTED] |
Package: apache
Version: 1.1.1-3
Many of the modules offered are called "*required*" which didn't seem
to me to be required. Sorry, I forget which ones exactly.
But I chose not to load common_log_module and got a syntax error due
to the TransferLog directive.
I also got a syntax error when "#Lo
'Michael Dillon wrote:'
>
>
>-- Forwarded message --
>Date: Wed, 25 Sep 1996 00:50:32 -0400
>From: Jon Lewis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
[Clipped generic complaint about dselect's user unfriendlyness.]
Wow one of my USENET "heroes" forwards a mail from another of my
USENET "heroes" about
I have put my new slang packages on
ftp://ftp.netaxs.com/people/cjf/debian or
http://www.netaxs.com/~cjf/debian.
The only reason I havn't put them on master yet is the questions I
just posted regarding Section and Priority fields. Everything else
about the package has been as well tested as I can
Greetings,
I've prepared two binary packages from one "Source: slang" package:
slang0.99.34 - A C programming library for user interfaces - shared library
slang0.99.34-dev - A C programming library for user interfaces - development
kit
I wanted to set the following Section and Priority:
Pac
Package: gpm
Version: 1.10-1
I tried installing libgpm1_1.10-1.deb and gpm_1.10-1.deb in that order.
The library installed just perfectly, but when gpm's prerm tried to
"/etc/init.d/gpm stop" ... it hung. The init.d script calls gpm -k which
may have gotten confused by the new library?? I was able
'Yves Arrouye wrote:'
>
>Package: dpkg-dev
>Version: 1.4.0
>
>It appears that the Maintainer: field in control is ignored, so the
>Maintainer: field in the changes file is made with the name of the user
>calling dpkg-genchanges and the name of the host the file is built on.
>This is a problem, and
'Dale Scheetz wrote:'
>
>On Sun, 22 Sep 1996, Christoph Lameter wrote:
>
>> The N option is used to statically link a program. What manpage were you
>> looking at?
>
>The man page is for ld. The gcc man page says ld is used to link.
>The gcc man page also says that -static is the proper option for
ed descriptions):
Source: slang
Section: devel
Priority: optional
Maintainer: Chris Fearnley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Standards-Version: 2.1.1.0
Package: slang0.99.34
Architecture: any
Depends: ${shlibs:Depends}
Description: A C programming library for user interfaces - shared library
S-Lang is a C
I was wondering if there is a way to use scp to transfer files to
master? This would let me transfer the files without sending the
passwd in the clear. I know master supports ssh, but I'm not sure of
the procedure. Probably before anyone informs me, I'll have put a new
version of mawk into Incom
Package: popclient
Version: 3.05-1
$ popclient mail.host
/s2/redhat/home/home.cjf//.poprc: No such file or directory
This used to work. I'm disappointed that the new version isn't backward
compatible. Since I'm resposible for maybe 10 pop servers on 5 different
networks, I prefer to just put th
'Barak Pearlmutter wrote:'
>
>Package: dpkg
>Version: 1.2.14elf
>
>When you go through lots of dselect work editing the package selection
>menu, then you're done (whew!) and you hit the big INSTALL button ...
>
>before dselect goes ahead and installs stuff, it should give you a
>very short descript
'[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:'
>
> Martin> Package: mirror
> Martin> Version: 2.8-6
>[...]
> Martin> The Debian mirror package only provides this script as an example.
> Martin> I would appreciate movin it into the /usr/lib/mirror direcotory and
> Martin> linking it to /usr/bin/do_unliks.
>
>No,
Package: metamail
Version: 2.7-8
I'm going to have to read the postinst script to determine what to say
to this one:
# dpkg --configure metamail
Setting up metamail (2.7-8) ...
New action 'view' for MIME type 'image/*'...
--> package=metamailview=showpicture -viewer "xloadimage -view
'Michael Meskes wrote:'
>
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>> I have argued before that a2ps and a2gs are effectively replaced by
>> genscript, and that we should remove them. I think a similar case could be
>> made for xosview as we now have procmeter.
>>
>> Opinions?
>
>Remove them.
Move them to pro
'Thomas Koenig wrote:'
>
>Package:
>
>Package: win32gcc
>Version: 2.7.2.cygnus.960412-1
>
>$ cc -bi386-unknown-cygwin32 -c binary.c
>cc: installation problem, cannot exec `cc1': No such file or directory
Hmm ... I installed this, wrote the classic hello world program and:
$ i386-unknown-cygwin32
'Lars Wirzenius wrote:'
>
>Spam does make furious, extra Cc's from mailing lists don't. They
>just annoy me (see signature), and in theory they do cost me a bit.
>Not enough to make me worry about it, but enough to write kilobyte after
>kilobyte about it.
>
>I do wish that people wouldn't Cc me whe
'Maarten Boekhold wrote:'
>
>On Sun, 11 Aug 1996, Joey Hess wrote:
>
>> Package: slrn
>> Version: 0.8.8.4-1
>>
>> This version of slrn appears to depend on a version of slang-lib that's
>> not been packaged yet. slang-lib_0.99.23-1 is the newest version of slang
>> I can find as a .deb on ftp.debi
'Miquel van Smoorenburg wrote:'
>
>You (Michael Shields) wrote:
>> Package: sendmail
>> Version: 8.7.5-4
>>
>> sendmail depends on deliver. However, in at least two common
>> configurations -- null client, and delivery by procmail -- it will run
>> perfectly without deliver. sendmail should only
'Christoph Lameter wrote:'
>
>A wish because of the heavy usage of gzipped files under debian:
>
>- Add functionality for less to automatically recognize a gzipped file
>and view it correctly without having to resort to zless.
I have code for that (or you can use most):
First set some environment
n the base
disks?
Here are the .changes files:
Date: 08 Aug 96 05:13 UT
Format: 1.6
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: Low
Maintainer: Chris Fearnley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Source: mawk
Version: 1.2.2-2
Binary: mawk
Architecture: i386 source
Description:
mawk: a pattern scanning and text process
Package: xosview
Version: 1.3.2-4.1
It's in buzz-updates and
# ls -l /usr/X11R6/bin/xosview
ls: /usr/X11R6/bin/xosview: No such file or directory
After installing the package.
"Christian Hudon wrote:"
>
> Package: fvwm
> Version: 1.24r-24
>
> Fvwm shouldn't recommend (nor even suggest, IMO) another version of
> itself (i.e. fvwm2).
Hmm, I'm not so sure. In principle you are correct, but the fvwm2 package
has all the pixmaps needed by fvwm-1.24 and fvwm won't run with
'J.H.M.Dassen wrote:'
>
>Bruce wrote:
>> Also, we should think about source packaging again. We are welcome to take
>> anything we want from RPM source packaging, if that would help.
>
>RPM has the advantage that it include _pristine_ source (identical
>(cmp or md5sum-wise) to the upstream sources,
'Brian C. White wrote:'
>
>> > Sorry to bother you again, but I thought non-free was precisely for
>> > packages which may not be sold on CDs. Now I am confused.
>>
>> You're not the only one. For example, shareware programs can be "sold" on CD
>> but require payment for use. I'd be more specific
'Ian Jackson wrote:'
>
>I think I'll have to support `Replaces' or something, so that old
>packages can have all their files `taken away' and disappear
>eventually.
Here's the scenario that I hope a Replaces fiels might resolve. I'm
working on the S-lang library. Both most and Midnight Commander
'Miquel van Smoorenburg wrote:'
>I've changed the postinst script to create a symbolic link in /var/log,
>so that it will (hopefully) work in all cases. It is also backwards
>compatible with other programs (UPS watchdogs etc) this way.
>
>If I don't get any replies saying "this is a bad idea" I'll
'[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:'
>
> Raul Miller writes:
> Raul> It does look like dvips was superceeded by some other package, and
> Raul> that it did originally have some executables in it.
>
>Nils switched to the upstream convention of reflecting the 'k' for Karl
>Berry's kpathsea in the package n
'Raul Miller wrote:'
>
> apache-httpd provides httpd (as does cern-httpd) so dpkg won't
> install one until the other is removed.
>
>This isn't completely optimal (for the people who want to use apache
>but also need a proxy server). Ideally, someone should write up a
>mini-howto on how to wor
'Michael Alan Dorman wrote:'
>
>> /usr/lib/apache is my choice for serverroot. Where the documents go
>> is site-specific. I'd like to also include an option to chroot httpd
>> to /usr/local/http or somesuch. Can dpkg install a package under some
>> arbitrary directory? If so then the preinst s
'Michael Alan Dorman wrote:'
>
>On Sun, 17 Dec 1995, Chris Fearnley wrote:
>> This is a preliminary release. It seems to work, but I'm disatisfied
>> with my handling of httpd configuration (basically there is none - you
>> have to edit /etc/httpd/* by h
This is a preliminary release. It seems to work, but I'm disatisfied
with my handling of httpd configuration (basically there is none - you
have to edit /etc/httpd/* by hand). And the server though compiled with
gdbm support doesn't take advantage of the option of dynamicaly linking
in modules.
'Bill Mitchell wrote:'
>
>On Mon, 11 Dec 1995, Owen S. Dunn wrote:
>
>> Package: diff
>> Version: 2.7
>> Revision: 5
>>
>> This package provides no man pages for any of diff, diff3, sdiff, or
>> cmp.
>
>Too true. It comes with info pages, which are not at all the same thing.
>
>I think the current
'Michael Alan Dorman wrote:'
>
>> The symlinks for lib*.so are in the runtime package. They should be
>> in the -dev package.
>
>Makes sense. Done.
It doesn't make sense to me. I thought that the runtime package would
include all of the shared libraries that other programs might need.
Isn't tha
'Ian Murdock wrote:'
>
>How about installing the kernel headers directly in /usr/include,
>rather than linking them into /usr/src? I always assumed this was
>standard kernel practice. Apparently, I was wrong. Are there any
>opinions on the subject?
The only problem I see would be if I upgrade m
Package: dpkg
Version: 1.0.6
1. Missing documentation:
No man pages for dpkg, update-rc.d, and update-alternatives.
2. dpkg/update-alternatives doesn't give me the level of installation
control I expected. If one wants to install each of elvis/nvi/vim (each
of which provides vi), dpkg will a
'Bill Mitchell wrote:'
>
>Scott Blachowicz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>
>> Ian Jackson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> > I agree. But, now you see that we have a script called /usr/bin/aout
>> > and a potential directory called /usr/bin/aout. Hence my suggestion
>> > that it ought to be called s
Package: elv-fmt
Version: 1.8pl4-19
When I try to reformat a paragraph, with the command '!}fmt', in elvis,
core is dumped. When I do it in vim or nvi, I get garbage instead of a
reformatted paragraph. I tried reinstalling (and rebuilding the .deb
package for) elv-fmt and the same effects were n
'Bill Mitchell wrote:'
>
>The following are my best guesses at answers. If I guess wrong,
>someone with better information will correct me.
Thanks for the feedback.
>Chris Fearnley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
[Deleted first part]
>> o I'm not clear on the
I have debianized mawk(1), a pattern scanning and text processing
language (it's awk, really). I will upload it as soon as I get ELF
installed. For now, I have a few questions on this my first
debianization effort.
o Why is gawk a required package? And is there any reason why gawk
forcibly ins
Package: pari
Version: 1.39
Revision: 3
/usr/doc/pari/user-manual doesn't have global execute permissions on
that directory, so it's hard to read the docs as a user.
This is under debian 0.93R6, kernel 1.2.13, and libc 4.6.27.
--
Christopher J. Fearnley|UNIX SIG Leader at PACS
[E
Package: man
Version: 2.3.10
1) man -k pattern gives error messages:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ man -k ftp
apropos: warning: can't read the fallback whatis text database.
apropos: /usr/local/man/whatis: No such file or directory
ftpusers (5) - file which lists users who are not allowed to use ft
Package: ncftp
Version: 2.1.0
It is very easy to confuse ncftp into refusing to allow ^Z to suspend
the process.
One way I have done this follows (hard to represent visual mode, sorry):
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ ncftp
> o ftp.debian.org
> cd /debian/debian-1.0/source
Now ^Z won't suspend the session
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