Re: Template toolkit: removed functionality issue

2006-12-23 Thread Benj. Mako Hill
> I write as someone preparing an NMU for > http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=393311. > > Template Toolkit 2.15 removed a few plugin modules from the main > distribution and I would like to package this new version. > The plugins removed are: > > Template::Plugin::DBI > Template::

Re: Bug#323227: new list: debian-planet to distribute planet.debian.org postings; archive to enable searching

2005-09-05 Thread Benj. Mako Hill
> I'd like to have a debian-planet list that would receive blog > postings from planet.debian.org. > > The main reason is that after postings expire on the planet website, > it's very hard to find old postings if you cannot remember who wrote > it. Think of "there was some nice sh script snippet"

Re: Is Ubuntu a debian derivative or is it a fork?

2005-06-08 Thread Benj. Mako Hill
> On Tue, Jun 07, 2005 at 09:19:06AM -0700, Matt Zimmerman wrote: > > The fact is that Ubuntu has proactively contributed a lot of code > > back to Debian, much more than most Debian derivatives have. I > > see no reason why claims that Ubuntu is not doing _enough_, or > > making it easy _enough_

Re: Is Ubuntu a debian derivative or is it a fork?

2005-06-08 Thread Benj. Mako Hill
> Matt Zimmerman([EMAIL PROTECTED])@2005-06-07 16:06: > > On Tue, Jun 07, 2005 at 04:03:24PM -0700, Stephen Birch wrote: > > > > > Matt Zimmerman([EMAIL PROTECTED])@2005-06-07 13:35: > > > > If the diff were zero bytes, Debian and Ubuntu would be identical. I > > > > hope > > > > that you can u

Re: baz and tla

2005-06-07 Thread Benj. Mako Hill
> "Benj. Mako Hill" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> IMHO, it's a bug if it doesn't work efficiently without specialized > >> assistance from shell completions. > > > > Absolutely. The fact that such a workaround is essential

Re: Is Ubuntu a debian derivative or is it a fork?

2005-06-07 Thread Benj. Mako Hill
> Stephen Birch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > The question was really this, if Ubuntu created a better bug tracking > > program would Debian want to run the new software on the debian > > servers thus replacing the current bug tracking programs? > > AFAIK, what Ubuntu is developing is proprieta

Re: Is Ubuntu a debian derivative or is it a fork?

2005-06-07 Thread Benj. Mako Hill
> Second, I've been trying to start a private conversation about > this very issue since last November, and my attempts to do > so have largely been ignored. If taking the concern > public is the only way to get it addressed, then so be it. Since this doesn't seem to have reached the right ears s

Re: Canonical and Debian

2005-06-07 Thread Benj. Mako Hill
> Then how did these people end up choosing to support the same set of > architectures as Ubuntu? It seems quite possible that the groups have come up with similar criteria independently of each other or separate criteria that arrived at the same conclusion. Of course, that's some less exciting t

Re: C++ ABI change for etch -- freeze unstable for all C++ libs with changed or new sonames

2005-06-07 Thread Benj. Mako Hill
> The problem is that the decisions are always taken for the Ubuntu > distribution first. Then, people from Canonical or people wanting to > keep compatibility between the two distributions will always want Debian > to follow the decisions taken for Ubuntu, regardless of their technical > merit an

Re: Canonical and Debian

2005-06-07 Thread Benj. Mako Hill
> If you're going to complain about a cabal, please do try to get the > facts straight: The DPL team consists of only one Canonical > employee, who was even later, after the election, added (Benjamin > "Mako" Hill) And for the record, the extent of my cabalistic work so far has been limited to ed

baz and tla

2005-06-07 Thread Benj. Mako Hill
> On Tue, Jun 07, 2005 at 10:40:47AM -0400, Benj. Mako Hill wrote: > > > > > That sounds very nice indeed. If that pans out, and you also fix the UI > > > issues (by which I mean I have to type approximately three times as many > > > characters to accompli

Re: Is Ubuntu a debian derivative or is it a fork?

2005-06-07 Thread Benj. Mako Hill
> And I think it is a fair demand asking all Ubuntu Developers to wear the > Ubuntu hats when Ubuntu specific questions are beeing discussed. > > Read: I expect you to specify [EMAIL PROTECTED] in the From: > field, otherwise reading the mail discussions and understanding people's > position beco

Re: Is Ubuntu a debian derivative or is it a fork?

2005-06-07 Thread Benj. Mako Hill
> That sounds very nice indeed. If that pans out, and you also fix the UI > issues (by which I mean I have to type approximately three times as many > characters to accomplish the same thing that I do in darcs), that would > be very nice. It blows my mind that people actually use tla or baz with

Re: Is Ubuntu a debian derivative or is it a fork?

2005-06-07 Thread Benj. Mako Hill
> > I'd like to hear about it, because this is certainly not the common > > case, and there is an unfortunate amount of myth and rumour on this > > subject. > > Oh, it is definitely not the common case. My sample set is ~5 > packages, and for most of them the maintainer of the Ubuntu package > w

Re: Is Ubuntu a debian derivative or is it a fork?

2005-06-07 Thread Benj. Mako Hill
> Stephen Birch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > The question was really this, if Ubuntu created a better bug tracking > > program would Debian want to run the new software on the debian > > servers thus replacing the current bug tracking programs? > > Is it better? I suspect that it will certain

Re: Ubuntu and its "appropriation" of Debian maintainers

2005-05-04 Thread Benj. Mako Hill
> Another option would be to leave the source package maintainer the > same (to retain proper credit, etc.), but override the binary > package maintainer during the build (to reflect that it is a > different build, and also display a more appropriate name in > "apt-cache show" etc.). > > What do

Re: USELINUX CFP

2003-12-16 Thread Benj. Mako Hill
On Tue, Dec 16, 2003 at 11:16:16PM +1100, Martin Michlmayr - Debian Project Leader wrote: > * Theodore Ts'o <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003-12-05 18:08]: > > Perhaps some folks would be interested in talking about Debian at > > USELINUX in Boston next year? If someone in the Boston area would > > be wi

Re: The term "Custom Debian Distribution" (Was Re: [custom] The term "flavor" and encouraging work on Debian)

2003-12-06 Thread Benj. Mako Hill
On Fri, Dec 05, 2003 at 09:00:05PM +0100, cobaco wrote: > -> if you don't allow temporary solutions while low priority debconf > question get included, than there currently are no CDD's as > custom configuration is necessary to support a CDD's target group > out-of-the-box. Thi

Re: The term "Custom Debian Distribution" (Was Re: [custom] The term "flavor" and encouraging work on Debian)

2003-12-05 Thread Benj. Mako Hill
On Fri, Dec 05, 2003 at 11:16:56AM +0100, Andreas Tille wrote: > Please see my previous mail and try to accept that while absolutely > incomplete the common entry point for CDDs is: > > http://www.debian.org/devel/ > > under the topic "Projects". Right, this page is (1) out of date and (

Re: [custom] The term "flavor" and encouraging work on Debian

2003-12-04 Thread Benj. Mako Hill
On Wed, Dec 03, 2003 at 12:44:17PM +0100, VEROK Istvan wrote: > Due to the unclear connotations, there is a great deal of confusion over > the terms "internal project", "subproject", "flavor", "custom Debian > distribution" and the like. To clarify my own thinking, I started using > just "subset"

Re: [custom] Debian Enterprise - packages

2003-12-04 Thread Benj. Mako Hill
On Tue, Dec 02, 2003 at 10:49:20PM -0600, John Goerzen wrote: > If you think you can get every large enterprise worldwide to standardize > on a single scripting language -- much less get even ONE to do that -- > then you will surely be nominated for several nobel prizes. Rather, the most you'll ge

Re: The term "Custom Debian Distribution" (Was Re: [custom] The term "flavor" and encouraging work on Debian)

2003-12-03 Thread Benj. Mako Hill
On Wed, Dec 03, 2003 at 01:24:24PM +0200, Fabian Fagerholm wrote: > If some of the people who participated in the Debcamp Custom > Distribution BOF (see > http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-nonprofit/News/2003/20030717) are > listening, perhaps you could elaborate? (Cc'ing Mako Hill since he > was

Re: [debian enterprise] sub-project planning

2003-12-02 Thread Benj. Mako Hill
On Tue, Dec 02, 2003 at 06:24:58AM +1100, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > I guess if you're a DD (I'm in the NM-process myself), you can creake > "official" Debian wiki, etc? AFAIK, the "official" Debian wiki is http://wiki.debian.net and like most wikis, *anyone* can create a page. Please go ahead and d

Re: [custom] Custom Debian Distributions

2003-12-02 Thread Benj. Mako Hill
On Tue, Dec 02, 2003 at 05:38:15AM +1100, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > On Tue, 2003-12-02 at 02:46, Anthony Towns wrote: > > So, using my definitions, the following conclusions are (IMO) true: > > > > * all flavours are policy compliant > > > > * some derived distros might be policy compliant

Re: Proposal - Free the Debian Open Use logo

2003-10-05 Thread Benj. Mako Hill
On Sun, Oct 05, 2003 at 12:07:05PM -0400, Simon Law wrote: > Debian Open Use Logo License > > Copyright (c) 1999 Software in the Public Interest > -This logo or a modified version may be used by anyone to refer to the > -Debian project, but does not indicate endorsement by the project. > +This l

Debconf in Porto Alegre (Re: debconf 2005 in Vienna, Austria)

2003-08-05 Thread Benj. Mako Hill
ut having Debconf in Brazil that is those those us that go to Debconf also get to go to Brazil. :) Regards, Mako -- Benj. Mako Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mako.yukidoke.org/ pgpxRVHX0GcYl.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Bug#198957: ITP: email -- Send email from command line, either via MTA or SMTP, with optional encryption

2003-06-29 Thread Benj. Mako Hill
the title. Regards, Mako [1] http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2001/debian-devel-200107/msg01845.html -- Benj. Mako Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mako.yukidoke.org/ pgpqD6iBPWggg.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [mass bug filing?] Short descriptions being used as long descriptions and other policy violations

2003-06-25 Thread Benj. Mako Hill
d, one would hope that the maintainers are also particularly well suited to writing this (i.e., better suited than someone that doesn't know the package). Regards, Mako -- Benj. Mako Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mako.yukidoke.org/ pgp6oRWBFfJgp.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [mass bug filing?] Short descriptions being used as long descriptions and other policy violations

2003-06-24 Thread Benj. Mako Hill
ften by simple > obmission, but sometimes patterns show. Often, as in this case, those lapses in obvious (and documented) maintainer duties, constitute bugs in a package. Maybe I'm misunderstanding something in your argument here. Regards, Mako -- Benj. Mako Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mako.yukidoke.org/ pgpMck5SBQbc0.pgp Description: PGP signature

Donation Available: SGI Indys

2003-06-21 Thread Benj. Mako Hill
ny questions or comments. Thanks! Regards, Mako -- Benj. Mako Hill | Debian Hardware Donations Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] | "Project Quartermaster" http://mako.yukidoke.org/ | [EMAIL PROTECTED] pgpCqOWJD8Ber.pgp Description: PGP signature

Donation Available: Alphastation 200 (currently in the Netherlands)

2003-06-21 Thread Benj. Mako Hill
necessary. Please CC me on mail to the -alpha list since I do not read the list. Regards, Mako -- Benj. Mako Hill | Debian Hardware Donations Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] | "Project Quartermaster" http://mako.yukidoke.org/ | [EMAIL

Developer Accessible Hurd Machine

2003-06-21 Thread Benj. Mako Hill
since I am not on that list. Regards, Mako -- Benj. Mako Hill | Debian Hardware Donations Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] | "Project Quartermaster" http://mako.yukidoke.org/ | [EMAIL PROTECTED] pgppq7Q2QRovG.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Celebrating Debian's 10th birthday?

2003-06-04 Thread Benj. Mako Hill
at: http://lists.yukidoke.org/mailman/listinfo/debian-seattle-soc Regards, Mako -- Benj. Mako Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mako.yukidoke.org/ pgpq7PWdMmMB9.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: What makes a debconf?

2003-06-04 Thread Benj. Mako Hill
hat I not be in the majority here but I like the excuse to travel and I like meeting developers from farther away. The rotating hemispheres plus mini-confs and Debian days is working out pretty well for me. Even if it is (quite) a bit of a strain logistically and financially. Regards, Mako -- Ben