On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 02:46:13PM -0500, Maas Verri wrote:
> The people, such as Adrian, who are pushing systemd as the one
> and only init system for debian should be physically harmed.
You are way out of line.
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On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 07:21:32PM -0700, Nikolaus Rath wrote:
> No, it's not quite as bad. The following works as well:
>
> dpkg --force-depends -i build-deps.deb && apt-get -f install
Why force-depends? Why not dpkg --unpack?
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pattern, as removals from testing are often preceded by removals from
unstable).
Sorry for the noise.
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uess it must be considered as removed.
Yes, you are right. Sorry for my careless reading of that page.
In any case, no ambiguity, it seems. I don't think a package's presence in
stable or oldstable alone is a problem.
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vailable for salvaging (that is, for
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I believe it's possible to reintroduce the package if there's a willing and
able maintainer, but it'd need to go through NEW again
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Svante Signell kirjoitti:
>On Mon, 2012-06-25 at 08:19 +0200, Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho wrote:
>> Which wm does that? I know it isn't gnome-shell at least, as I've
>been
>> using it quite successfully without nm installed.
>
>Have you tried to use evolution wit
Adam Borowski kirjoitti:
>Sure, let's start removals with ones that hard-depend on things a
>window
>manager shouldn't touch, like network-manager.
Which wm does that? I know it isn't gnome-shell at least, as I've been
using it quite successfully without nm installed.
(I hope this message lo
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Add install-sh
Signed-off-by: Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho
In this case, the hash is the long string after the word "commit"
on the first line, and I would use for example 2ff04 in the
enhances B" has (more or less) the same effect as "B
suggests A". Thus, the reverse Suggests relation would be redundant.
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On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 01:59:27PM +0200, Kalle Kivimaa wrote:
> Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho writes:
> > Doesn't it occur to you that there might be a reason why the Secretary
> > cannot
> > be removed by GR or by the Leader's whim?
>
> Actually, the Secretary
which (if either) is correct :)
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strongly supported the current Secretary, and I continue to have faith in him -
but the current furor has exposed certain Constitutional flaws I would like to
have corrected. The time for fixing them is not now, however.)
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hority the
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On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 08:04:38AM +0100, Mike Hommey wrote [edited by AJK]:
> Do you know where I could find [the music-related thing that shall not be
> named] ?
Groan :)
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it disappointing to see this posted, and in bad taste.
I found it generally hilarious and a well-made point, though I agree the
presentation could have been in better taste.
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Package: wnpp
Severity: normal
I request assistance with maintaining the dctrl-tools package.
There are several tasks that could use more manpower (in no particular
order):
1. Writing test cases
One could mine the BTS for past bug reports and create regression
tests for them.
On Thu, Oct 11, 2007 at 12:42:49PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote:
> The manpage:encoding idea could work, but might have ambiguity issues
> with man pages with colons in their name
I think that's solvable by taking the last colon. I don't think
encodings have colons in them.
at for bugs that the
maintainer cannot reproduce based on the information at hand. This is
not the case being discussed.
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it should
not be closed even with no activity, depending on the maintainer's
preference).
I'm grateful that people volunteer to triage bugs, but volunteering is
no defense for making mistakes.
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On Wed, Sep 19, 2007 at 06:00:06PM +0900, Atsuhito Kohda wrote:
> It's lynx-cur and it has an ability to mail so it is
> necessary to know what MTA is available, I guess.
Is it not possible to tell it? Something like
--with-sendmail=/usr/sbin/sendmail
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Is this okay?
Why would you need a MTA to build a package?
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Of course, not all packages support packager mode, but some do. Even if
it is not supported, it is a good idea to --enable and --disable stuff
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experience, brute force attackers give up after the rate-limiter starts
tarpitting them.
See http://antti-juhani.kaijanaho.fi/stuff/ratelimit.txt
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On Thu, Aug 09, 2007 at 10:49:33AM -0300, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote:
> On Thu, 09 Aug 2007, Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho wrote:
> > The reason? It's counterproductive and silly, when upgrading from
> > oldstable to stable, to
here is no news to report. The current version
should contain all news that affect upgrades from the latest stable
release to the current version.
The reason? It's counterproductive and silly, when upgrading from
oldstable to stable, to get lots of news that was ever relevant only for
sid-to-sid u
Please don't CC me, I read the list.
On Mon, Aug 06, 2007 at 01:38:33PM +0200, Mathieu Malaterre wrote:
> thanks for the link. So according to this page I might even be able to
> generate a single tarball:
You do need the .dsc too :)
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automated system like (I assume) cmake.
See http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/
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On Mon, Apr 09, 2007 at 03:51:54PM +0200, Alexander Schmehl wrote:
> The multiarch media still has a small problem: for i386/amd64 they are
> no "fire and forget" thing; you still need to find out if you have an
> amd64 compatible system and start the amd64 boot process by hand.
>
> It would be
Christoph Haas wrote:
Darcs looks like a nice competitor but has some issues regarding
checking in changes automatically (might as well be my ignorance but it
sounds like I need weird scripts and a .procmailrc to merge changes
automatically).
You don't *need* them; you can choose to do that, bu
Nico Golde wrote:
I thought about changelogs like:
2001-04-06 mitch 20:18:29Michael Natterer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
This is not a Debian changelog, and your original question talked about
those.
Many upstreams split their own changelogs occasionally. If you like,
suggest to your
Joey Hess wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~>apt-cache dumpavail | grep-dctrl -FDepends debconf \
> |grep-dctrl -FDepends -v '| debconf-2.0' | grep ^Package: \
> | cut -d : -f 2 | dd-list --stdin
Assuming a sid grep-dctrl,
grep-aptavail -FDepends debconf -a -! -FDepends '| debconf-2.0' \
Wouter van Heyst wrote:
> Are you sure? http://fabrice.bellard.free.fr/tcc/ claims it produces
> optimized x86 code, which could be a problem on other archs.
TCC does some simple local optimizations (AIUI, some peephole
optimization, and simple intra-statement linear register allocation),
but call
Jesus Climent wrote:
> At least in Spain and Finland, publishing such information without the consent
> of the person would be against the law.
True. In fact, our db.d.o database would, as it currently stands, be
illegal in Finland, if it were located in Finland.
(It'd be fairly easy to fix, act
Christoph Berg wrote:
> I'd like to have a debian-planet list that would receive blog postings
> from planet.debian.org
While I agree that an archive of Planet Debian is desirable, I'm not
sure this is the way to go. It seems to me that an archival feature to
PlanetPlanet would be more worthwhile
W. Borgert wrote:
> VIII. Packages not maintained by teams are not to go into
> unstable/testing/stable.
Does this mean you are volunteering as a team member for all packages
that currently have only one maintainer?
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Terry Burton wrote:
> PostScript is an interpretted language, so I fail to understand what you
> mean by source packages in this context.
That word is part of the Debian jargon. You need to learn the
essentials of that jargon before you can effectively package anything
for Debian. The main sourc
t would be cool if we could create a spam-reporting alias
I seem to remember that we have (had?) one, back in the days when spam
was counted in single digits per day. I have no idea if it still
exists, or what it was called.
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On 20050801T135912-0400, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote:
> Maybe Laszlo wants to know which would be the proper pronoun reference.
"Ey" is good for everybody, even the genderqueer. :)
(Tip: ey talks to em about eir stuff)
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On 20050729T17+0200, Florian Weimer wrote:
> > The problem is, your trick doesn't work outside templates,
>
> Huh?
[After testing it:] I'll be damned. I was sure I was right :)
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>
> I think it's (only) required to have an address.
> I don't see why the compiler can't optimize it away (if it's const).
Only if the compiler knows all uses of that constant. With dynamic
linking, you can't know that very easily.
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t check now, even Stroustrup himself advocating it).
It's a shame if it now suddenly stopped working and is somehow against
the standard, even.
The problem with #defines is that they're outside the language proper
and, for example, pay no attention to namespaces.
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On 20050717T213903-0700, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote:
> Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > On 20050716T195244-0700, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote:
> >> That's a far cry different from someone wanting to enforce a
> >> requirement.
> >
long way if people would read "policy" as "the DDR" when such a
reading makes a question make perfect sense (and, if they must, politely
correct the error). Some people actually did that.
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where assuming stupidity is better than assuming good intentions.
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indicates a disruptive upgrade (changing how things work, not just
adding new things).
I suppose I should advertise my version number rant here:
http://antti-juhani.kaijanaho.info/blog/en/programming/version-numbering.html
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> The idea being that "grep-available --source-info [...]" would work the
> same as piping the above into "| grep-ctrl [...]".
Any user can already put that in their ~/.grep-dctrlrc (well, a not
*literally* that, but instructions to that effect).
If someone wants it as
kage). The most one could do for grep-dctrl would be to
add a shorthand option for that; is it worth the trouble?
Hmm, actually, it might make sense to add support for predicate
abstractions. Hmm.
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On 20050407T172533+0300, Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho wrote:
> (Don't use grep-status or grep-available in package scripts.)
Since I've been asked, here's some more about that from
/usr/share/doc/grep-dctrl/Compatibility :
8<--
If you use grep-dctrl in a Debian package, you shou
grep-dctrl -FProvides mail-transport-agent -a -FStatus installed -sPackage -n \
/var/lib/dpkg/status
(Don't use grep-status or grep-available in package scripts.)
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> Microsoft Windows-> "djur"
> )
Heh, seconded :) But in the Card original, these are all terminology
for foreigners; don't we have any natives in Debian?
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the package set.
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On 20050301T144403+, Henning Makholm wrote:
> Scripsit Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > On 20050301T122452+0100, Tollef Fog Heen wrote:
>
> >> apt invokes dpkg on the command line and due to maximum command line
> >> length it someti
ing dpkg doesn't?
>
> apt invokes dpkg on the command line and due to maximum command line
> length it sometimes is split in an unfortunate place.
I'll repeat what I wrote above:
Doesn't apt usually unpack all packages first and then configure them in
one run, so that
On 20050228T204520+, Andrew Suffield wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 28, 2005 at 09:49:41PM +0200, Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho wrote:
> > On 20050228T164806+, Andrew Suffield wrote:
> > > Unfortunately apt breaks the code. If you use dpkg directly it'll
> > > work. If you
e run, so that shouldn't matter?
(Of course, essential packages and stuff like that break this but...)
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no postinst first.
> Should a bug be filed against those packages?
Minor severity at most, IMHO.
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On 20050214T071408+0100, Christian Perrier wrote:
> Debian address first, his automated greylisting system automatically
> answered and did so using the Reply-To field.
Then it is broken. Automatic mails should be sent to the envelope
sender, unless explicitly asked otherwise.
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On 20050124T180205+, Thaddeus H. Black wrote:
> Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho writes,
>
> > A package description is equally visible.
>
> But is it equally machine parsable? If not,
> is this unimportant?
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> 2) the information the dependency provides is visible _before_ the
> package is even downloaded
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This issue belongs to debian-policy.
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happened with the kernel
14:34 oh?
14:34 "This maintainer hasn't answered any of my mails or taken my
patches. Is he dead or something?"
14:34 "Yes. Helicopter accident"
14:34 ouch
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ly and
time-consuming. Arguably were are still in the process of trying
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indicated when
many bugs are opened on a similar issue against several package based on
a (semi)automated search for a particular kind of bug in the Debian
archive.
> If you think it is a duplicate, you should merge them not close it
> summarily, especially since this one include a patch.
T
be
further processed at build time to yield a bootstrapping compiler (which
IMHO is cheating - it's about as nice as distributing a bootstrapping
compiler executable in the source package).
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example, every self-hosting compiler build-depends on itself
(many of them can be bootstrapped, but I'm not sure we want to require
bootstrapping on every build - and some require manual bootstrapping
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> unspecified problems with version in unstable, should take
> "a couple of days" to fix, no activity since September
The "unspecified problems" are
ble considering the size of the thing) and to make this
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Thank you all for your attention.
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On 20030425T180852+0200, Emile van Bergen wrote:
> The problem is STL
... or rather, its abuse.
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s the DAM. You'd have to be quite extraordinary
to achieve that.
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ave been RC-bugless in unstable for some time (maximum
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On 20010103T212649-0600, Adam Heath wrote:
> Perl is a required package, there is no need to list the dependency.
That it is required is not relevant. That it is a virtual essential
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, as it originated from elm.
Pine also originated from elm, so theoretically it's possible (although
I think both are complete rewrites).
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On 20001226T152221+0100, Christian Kurz wrote:
> |malaga (210 days old)
>
> Has this package been dropped?
No.
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ribute it under the terms of the LGPL.
The program compiles cleanly with Jikes, but since Kaffe has a nasty bug
that makes GZigZag currently almost unusable with it, I'll be putting
GZigZag in contrib for now. When the Kaffe bug is fixed, we'll move
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ikewise if you pipe (|) it to gpg. However, if you
copy&paste it from mutt, it's OK.
It's just that mutt does not QP-decode messages that it saves and pipes.
> In fact, I'm gonna be mondo pissed no matter whose bug this is, let's try
> and track it down.
It's
one is let in for that reason, the others should be
allowed too. And we all know what happens when stable is no longer stable
(=not moving).
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On 2904T14+0200, Remco van de Meent wrote:
> getting angry when you don't reply to their requests within one hour,
> even if you are 'on leave' as stated on db.debian.org.
Nondevelopers do not have access to the away information in db.d.o.
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ilable
gpg: decryption failed: secret key not available
Um, why send such a message to a widely-read mailing-list?
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An upload with changed Maintainer address is sufficient.
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g report from you about this.
> Just put the list on the
> website,
It is in the website, starting yesterday.
> Why are people determined to make information so hard to find?
Why are people determined to make pointless rants instead of filing
useful bugs?
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n in policy or
> the packaging manual (can't remember which offhand)?
Um, the current note in policy manual is not sufficient? (It explicitly
mentions the package "build-essential".)
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On 2830T184956-0400, Matt Zimmerman wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 30, 2000 at 08:51:47PM +0300, Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho wrote:
>
> > The definition is the following:
> >
> > It is not be necessary to explicitly specify build-time r
utomatically updated
from the package?
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