Re: FreeBSD-like approach for Debian? [was: Re: Deficiencies in Debian]

1999-09-20 Thread Anders Arnholm
>>>Andrew Pimlott wrote: > I suggest kindly pointing this out to those who start their scripts with > #!/usr/local/bin/perl. Even thou the rest of the world may be wrong it till exist, and one sometimes has to make the best to interact even with an erratic world, that is the main reason why soft

Re: ProFTPd being lame

1999-09-19 Thread Anders Arnholm
>>>Robert Stone wrote: > Virtualhosting in proftpd is far easier than with wu-ftpd. As it > stands now, I don't believe any debian ftp server supports virtual anon ftp > sites as provided besides proftpd. Roxen does, at least if you have different IP numbers, I can't get IP-less vistual

Re: /opt/ again (was Re: FreeBSD-like approach for Debian? [was: ...])

1999-09-16 Thread Anders Arnholm
>>>Steve Lamb wrote: > How are you going to get the data on to the drive without a minimum > installation on it in the first place? Booting in a way that lets you restore the data with out having to install the system. What you need depends on the kind backup you have. In the most simple

Re: Strange mail from Anders Arnholm (was Re: /opt/ again (was Re: FreeBSD-like approach for Debian? [was: ...]))

1999-09-16 Thread Anders Arnholm
>>>Paul Slootman wrote: > especially strange there (besides the fact that he uses X-Face, which I > thought had died out :-) I must have misse the first mail, and I have never seen amy problem exect that my filters for repying on some QP mails sometimes gets wrong and add nice looking Swedish ch

Re: /opt/ again (was Re: FreeBSD-like approach for Debian? [was: ...])

1999-09-15 Thread Anders Arnholm
>>>Steve Lamb wrote: > Tuesday, September 14, 1999, 11:25:11 PM, Jakob wrote: > > software. FHS states that /usr must be sharable over a network - e.g. if I > > Thank you for finally providing a very good reason for a new top

Re: /opt/ again (was Re: FreeBSD-like approach for Debian? [was: ...])

1999-09-15 Thread Anders Arnholm
>>>Steve Lamb wrote: > Now, *YOU* tell *ME* how that translates into reinstalling, configuring > and restoring all data. Then can you tell me how your three steps are easyer and faster them our one step? Restoring everything from one tape in one moment usally gets done faster (as long as we

Re: /opt/ again (was Re: FreeBSD-like approach for Debian? [was: ...])

1999-09-15 Thread Anders Arnholm
>>>Steve Lamb wrote: > Nor is it the case with /opt. As long as you don't count the "Filesystem Hierarchy Standard". / Balp

Re: /opt/ again (was Re: FreeBSD-like approach for Debian? [was:

1999-09-15 Thread Anders Arnholm
>>>Steve Lamb wrote: > Sure I can. Now, *YOU* tell *ME* why you can't see the similarities > between /usr/local and /usr/opt in the above scenerio. I mean, if /usr is If it wan't for that the rest of the Unix univere in about 20 years ago started to use the /opt mhiracy for this you should

Re: Backups (was: /opt/ again)

1999-09-15 Thread Anders Arnholm
>>>Steve Lamb wrote: > Depends on what you have on there. If it is stuff that is easily replaced > from source, recompile. I'd backup the sources, not the programs themselves It's almost always faster to recreate everything (idenical) from back that from something else. (I suppost don't have

Re: /opt/ again (was Re: FreeBSD-like approach for Debian? [was:

1999-09-15 Thread Anders Arnholm
>>>Anthony Towns wrote: > > > beacus some pepole in the Debian comunity does not have tha same > > problems... > STOP WRITING TO -devel AND START **DOING** SOMETHING ABOUT IT * The day I get my key sigh by a developer and I get som exctra time. I can contribitute something. BUT STILL

Re: FreeBSD-like approach for Debian? [was: Re: Deficiencies in Debian]

1999-09-15 Thread Anders Arnholm
>>>Hamish Moffatt wrote: > On Tue, Sep 14, 1999 at 10:00:02PM -0500, Steve Greenland wrote: > > As another sometimes Solaris and HP user, hear hear. If the only way > > What, you don't like this? > > /ato/extern/gnu/bin:/usr/hp64000/bin:/usr/broadband/bin:/usr/broadband/util: > > :-) Fro

Re: /opt/ again (was Re: FreeBSD-like approach for Debian? [was: ...])

1999-09-15 Thread Anders Arnholm
>>>Steve Lamb wrote: > Considering one can install a fairly robust system (FreeBSD, Debian) over > FTP/NFS in under an hour and it takes 2-3 to go through a gig of data I would > much rather reinstall the programs and retrieve the relatively small data > (/etc, btw, is data). As long at th

Re: /opt/ again (was Re: FreeBSD-like approach for Debian? [was: ...])

1999-09-15 Thread Anders Arnholm
>>>Steve Lamb wrote: > Then why /home/ftp instead of /ftp? Because ~ftp is as short as /ftp. > Why /var/htdocs instead of /www? Bacouase /var/htdocs is an error, the i.m.h.o. propper location is /home/www, a.k.a. ~www / Balp

Re: /opt/ again (was Re: FreeBSD-like approach for Debian? [was: ...])

1999-09-15 Thread Anders Arnholm
>>>Steve Lamb wrote: > Tuesday, September 14, 1999, 3:14:37 PM, Federico wrote: > > sysadmin) control, /opt is where third-party package builders (e.g., > > Corel, KDE, Cygnus, etc...) control. > None of this describes one bit why it has to be a top level directory. You may not like it, bu

Re: /opt/ again (was Re: FreeBSD-like approach for Debian? [was:

1999-09-15 Thread Anders Arnholm
>>>Steve Lamb wrote: > Tuesday, September 14, 1999, 12:32:19 PM, Jonathan wrote: > > I hate being FORCED to do an "install" when a "copy" is just as good and > > saves far more effort. I duplicate hundreds of FreeBSD disks every month. > > If only Linux was so easy. > > If you like Free

Re: /opt/ again (was Re: FreeBSD-like approach for Debian? [was: ...])

1999-09-15 Thread Anders Arnholm
>>>Steve Lamb wrote: > Tuesday, September 14, 1999, 1:45:46 PM, Marek wrote: > >> Which would be for what reason? > > When for example it is mounted on a cdrom as a live CD system. Enough? > > /usr/local, where you're going to keep local, custom builds of things, i That are hopefully

Re: /opt/ again (was Re: FreeBSD-like approach for Debian? [was:

1999-09-15 Thread Anders Arnholm
>>>Steve Lamb wrote: > domain of individuals who do not have a packaging system. Debian has a very > strong packaging system so the separation is not needed. Then could you please show me a way to share /usr/bin over nfs? I see the need to install, the idea in /usr/share is that it should be po

Re: An 'ae' testimony

1999-05-22 Thread Anders Arnholm
>>>"Steve Lamb" wrote: > >Hmm, I don't know about this. An inexperienced user is unlikely to know how > >to recover their system anyway, so why bother putting an editor there that > >they can use by themselves? > > Who said recovery? We're talking the boot disks, system installation. Last t

Re: An 'ae' testimony

1999-05-22 Thread Anders Arnholm
>>>Joseph Carter wrote: > And neither are very friendly to new users. ae doesn't work like you'd Editing configfiles isn't friendly to new users, even if they get a "simple" editor.

Re: locale problem with latest packages

1999-05-18 Thread Anders Arnholm
>>>Raphael Hertzog wrote: > Le Mon, May 17, 1999 at 06:08:01PM +0200, Michael Meskes écrivait: > > I just updated libc6 and locales to the latest packages and now my locale > > de_DE does not work anymore. Perl tells me it's falling back to default. > > Others like date just refuse to use it. W