On Tue, Mar 14, 2000 at 07:09:31PM -0800, Joey Hess wrote:
> Lars Wirzenius wrote:
> > I agree with Branden: remove the installer from potato.
>
> The problem that I forgot to mention is that anyone who upgrades from slink
> to potato w/o upgrading realplayer, and had realplayer installed via the
On Tue, Mar 14, 2000 at 08:20:48AM +1100, Hamish Moffatt wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 13, 2000 at 09:59:20AM -0500, Alex Yukhimets wrote:
> > _please_ don't do it. It will be utterely confusing to find everything in a
> > new place. As a person who does X development writing -I/usr/X11
On Sun, Mar 12, 2000 at 10:47:51PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote:
> > You are going to keep /usr/X11R6 for this release right? I guess that the
> > XFree86 people might get a bit irritated if you tried to drop it.
>
> Actually, I've evilly been toying with the idea of #defining ProjectRoot to
> /u
> I use the minimal Makefile:
>
> CFLAGS=-O2 -g -I/usr/lib/glib/include/
> LDFLAGS=-L/usr/X11R6/lib -lX11 -lglib -lgdk -lgtk -lm
>
> and get an (apparently) working program but the warnings:
>
> ld: warning: libc.so.5, needed by /usr/lib/libc5-compat/libXi.so.6, may
> conflict with libc.so.6
> /
> > if i replace -lXpm by /usr/X11R6/lib/libXpm.so.4 the program links
> > fine. does anybody have any idea what's going on here?
>
> "ld" only looks for libXpm.so, not for libXpm.so.version. In Debian,
> libfoo.so is part of the libfoo-dev package, not of the libfoo package, as
> you need the hea
> Alex, this is much simpler than you think.
>
> I will give you a simple example: My keyboard has a key for the \~n letter
> (using TeX notation) which is used in the Spanish language.
>
> When I press that key, I *expect* to produce such character.
> Not obtaining that letter but some other is
> > You can't satisfy all users anyway. In addition, I would hate to be
> > able to switch to "russian" keyboard mode (by mistake) and enter some
> > letters which look just like English ones in the editor I use for
> > _programming_.
>
> OTOH, many people'd be upset not to be able to insert comme
> Moin Alex!
>
> AY> I would like to question the need for this requirement.
>
> ???
Aren't you questioning my right to do that? :)
> AY> While this can be of importance to some users, it can be quite
> AY> annoying to others.
>
> ??? Please remember, a lot of languages need 8 bit clean progra
> > > Support of 8-bit characters by default
> > >
> > > Some programs need special configuration options to work 8-bit
> > > clean. This is very important for a lot of non-English users who
> > > need to input umlauts, accented characters, etc. All Debian
> > > packages will b
> Support of 8-bit characters by default
>
> Some programs need special configuration options to work 8-bit
> clean. This is very important for a lot of non-English users who
> need to input umlauts, accented characters, etc. All Debian
> packages will be configured to be 8-bit
> Thomas Lakofski wrote:
> > You'd be surprised... I described a cross cable to a friend of mine, and
> > told him that he'd have to go and get one made up or get some tools. He
> > mailed me back 5 minutes later to tell me that he'd got it working. I
> > asked him how, he said he'd pried the cabl
It looks like you already have motif, right?
In this case I would recommend using all packages dynamicaly linked with
Motif (like ddd-dmotif, etc.) from contrib/ *and* hamm/contrib/.
Since Motif is not available for libc6 (glibc2) yet, all Motif packages,
even from unstable tree should be libc5- l
> On 18 Dec 1997, Kai Henningsen wrote:
>
> > Remember there are people that can't stand Emacs.
>
> Strange... :)
Nothing strange. After a couple of _years_ of struggling in attempts to
learn emacs (I made about 6 attempts total) I found a *great* relief in...
vi (vim actually). I was able to ge
> > And there is one thing
> > which I would qualify as a mistake in the above description: $2 is
> > actually in the form "/dev/ttyS1" than just "ttyS1".
>
> Doh! I wish they wouldn't do that. I guess it's for some kinda
> security?
>
> ...A. P. [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.onShore.com/>
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> >FWIW I've been using run-parts in ip-up and ip-down for some time now,
> >the scripts reconfigure stuff based on my ip address (2 ISPs) etc.
> >and everything works like a charm. I dunno about packages placing
> >scripts in ip-[up|down].d/ -- I'd rather put them in
> >/usr/doc//examples.
>
>
> Please let noone think that just because that absurd and awful
> suggestion was the last thing anyone said that everyone is happy with
> it.
>
> Rather, the rest of us have more important things to do than to fight
> battles with people with broken mailers and broken ideas about how
> mailers ou
> Alexander Yukhimets <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> contrib: ddd-dmotif-2.1.1-2
> contrib: ddd-smotif-2.1.1-2
The thing with motif-linked packages is that Motif itself is not yet
available for libc6.
Thanks.
Alex Y.
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> Is there a way I can get Linux to work on my old 286?
There is an attempt to port Linux to 086 called ELKS. Look for it's link
on LDP page (http://sunsite.unc.edu/LDP/). Last time I checked I still
couldn't even boot it on my 286 though.
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> I'm hoping to get my PGP keys signed by a known and registered debian
> developer in the NYC area so as to comply with the Debian Developer's
> Reference Section 1.2.
>
> I'm located in Manhattan; specifically on the Lower East Side.
> Any takers? Please reply to me offline. Thanks.
> ...
> > > Although dpkg-dev from hamm works fine on bo since it is not libc
> > > dependent, it's still not possible to backport on a completely-bo
> > > given this factor, unless I am missing something ..
> >
> > As far as I understand, you just told that you can use dpkg-dev from hamm
> > to produce
> One problem with doing backports of libc5 packages is that
> dpkg-dev in bo doesn't seem to support pristine sources;
> it complained that the original wasn't in the .orig subdirectory.
>
> Although dpkg-dev from hamm works fine on bo since it is not libc
> dependent, it's still not possible to
Hi.
After RedHat 5.0 got released we noticably increased reatre of package
conversion and this is extremely good. The sooner hamm is relesed the
better. But we might consider other opprtunities to *increase* our
"market share" in current situation. The problem with RH 5.0 is that there
are not tha
> Am 29.06.97 schrieb aqy6633 # is5.nyu.edu an Marco Budde ...
>
> Moin Alex!
>
> AY> > Right, but does all WWW server offer this feature? We can't force the
> AY> > user to install a specific server.
> AY> Why not? This could be a part of Debian documentation system.
>
> Because no admin would
> Moin Christoph!
>
> CL> 200Mhz Pentiums are the standard fare today. And I am running
> CL> the boa webserver for example on some low memory 486DX66s with
>
> I'm using a 486/100 and a 486SL/33. In my opinion we should avoid using
> the server to uncompress the files. We should find another s
> I am really irritated by such insistence on a view "my box at home" and
> nothing
> else matters. We are not all just hacking for fun at home. Some people
> actually
> make their living with the stuff.
>
I completely agree with you. But this is just some kind of a Debian
"sickness" not to thi
> MB> Why should we ship info files? HTML is better format. The most
> MB> system will use HTML as their help system in the future. KDE for
> MB> example uses HTML.
>
> The Info format is a lot better, tecnically, than HTML. That's what
> I've heard. Maybe the problem is that there is no Info brow
> The reason we need virtual packages is so that we can allow people who
> (like myself) have gone out and bought real Motif to use it on Debian.
> I would be glad to throw away my Motif CD, and only use Lesstif. Last
> time I tried compiling Nedit against lesstif, the results were almost
> usable
> On Mon, 23 Jun 1997, Philippe Troin wrote:
>
> > On Mon, 23 Jun 1997 20:13:13 +0200 Christian Schwarz
> > ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> >
> > > Option 3: We ship .texi files and produce HTML and/or info files on
> > > demand (in the postinst script).
> >
> > I like this idea a lot. I *hate* hav
> On Mon, 23 Jun 1997, Alex Yukhimets wrote:
>
> [snip]
> > > contrib. Try to run it on Lesstif and it won't work, because it will
> > > not find a Motif 2.0 library. Lesstif provides a Motif 1.2 lib.
> >
> > Yeah, but Lesstif was not meant to be *
> Whats the difference between the jdk packages and the jdk1.1 packages? I
> just found both in the archive.
Well, jdk packages represent jdk 1.0.2, the other -- jdk 1.1.1
Java interpreter is 2 times faster in 1.1.1 plus much expanded API, but it
is new and only a few browsers support it.
Though
> > I don't think that support for different Moitfs are needed.
> > All known software despite of being compiled with Motif 2.0 does not
> > use features not present in Motif 1.2
> > The reason for this is that "big unices" does not have Motif 2.0 actively
> > shiped from the vendors yet and usin
> On Sun, 22 Jun 1997, Dirk Eddelbuettel wrote:
>
> > What about the motif-dummy thingie we discussed? How can I run plan having
> > Motif and not lesstif installed? Can you make sure it doesn't Depends: on
> > lesstif, but rather on a virtual package 'motif-libs' which lesstif, and a
> > to-be-c
> Option 3: We ship .texi files and produce HTML and/or info files on
> demand (in the postinst script).
>
> Advantages:
> - No work for the maintainers.
> - Great flexibility (the sysadmin could even produce PostScript
> files when needed!).
This is extremel
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Hello,guys.
At some point I found that when I try to execute dpkg-source -x *.dsc
(for the most recent ddd in hamm) I got the error message:
dpkg-source: error: diff contains unknown line `\ No newline at end of
file'
What could be the reason for that?
And more, executing it on hello (!) package
> On Jun 16, Alex Yukhimets wrote
> >
> > I am sorry to say, but you are wrong. Even on this list there were
> > several postings regarding this matter. There are several known
> > problems and who knows how many unknown. You just can't afford to
> > experi
> > The problem of having both libc5 and libc6 run-time libraries is minor,
> > the main one is that those stuck with libc5-dev cannot use other
> > newly-available versions of *libraries* from hamm.
>
> How do you mean? You can install the *libraries* just fine, it's just
> the development versi
>
> Alex Yukhimets:
> > Debian is the effort of a large number of developers and primararily
> > *for* developers.
>
> I disagree. I think Debian is for anyone who wants a good Linux
> system, and who doesn't need much non-free software.
Hello all.
Some time ago there was a posting on the list stating that typical Debian
user is of SysAdmin type. The guy received a lot of negative responses and
as a result we have now dotfile-generator in the distribution as our
statement of being friendly to novices. Good thing, but what is Debia
> Of cource, there isn't such a list now (as far as I know, at least I
> guess that list would be empty now).
>
> > Anyways, Debian just can't compete with commercial distributions which can
> > allow to suppose that they are self-contained. Debian is NOT. Unlike
> > RedHat (which has, for instanc
> > I'm not entirely certain I see why we need to remove libc5 packages from
> > the system for Debian 2.0. While I agree that the primary packages should
> > really be glibc, I don't see how a few lib5 packages are going to hurt the
> > distribution
>
> Well, they won't hurt much, but they would
> Okay, so say some random person who has installed Debian wants XEmacs 19.15
> because he needs some feature. This seems like a reasonable request... He
> could get it from the Hamm distribution, except that would mean he'd need
> libc6...and he doesn't want to do that, because he's heard that i
Jim,
why didn't you upload shared Motif library version of jdk1.1-runtime?
I just wonder if there is any reason for that.
Thanks.
Alex Y.
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Hi.
In 1.3 release announcement Debian compatibility with rpm and
Slackware packages mentioned 2 times. And one time it explicitly
states that it is achieved via enclosed utility to convert
mentioned packages to Debian format. (This is "alien", right? :)
How can we cope with the fact that Slackw
>
>
> Is it me, or are the Debian lists really quiet? My secondary list server
> hasn't transferred a single thing from the primary server in several
> hours, perhaps even a day.
>
> Am I crazy, or did I break something?
No you are not. During the last 24 hours I received only 2(!) debian
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