Work-needing packages report for Jun 6, 2025

2025-06-05 Thread wnpp
The following is a listing of packages for which help has been requested through the WNPP (Work-Needing and Prospective Packages) system in the last week. Total number of orphaned packages: 1179 (new: 2) Total number of packages offered up for adoption: 129 (new: 0) Total number of packages reques

Bug#1107345: ITP: golang-k8s-sigs-apiserver-network-proxy -- Proxy server for Kubernetes apiserver network traffic

2025-06-05 Thread Arthur Diniz
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Arthur Diniz * Package name: golang-k8s-sigs-apiserver-network-proxy Version : 0.33.0-1 Upstream Author : kubernetes-sigs * URL : https://github.com/kubernetes-sigs/apiserver-network-proxy * License : Apache-2.0 Program

Re: New contributor experience

2025-06-05 Thread Ahmad Khalifa
On 05/06/2025 21:48, Richard Lewis wrote: Andrey Rakhmatullin writes: On Thu, Jun 05, 2025 at 08:51:38PM +0100, Richard Lewis wrote: Consider this random new contributor's experience: 1. Go to https://www.debian.org/, click on "Get Involved, Contribute" 2. Read https://www.debian.org/deve

Re: New contributor experience

2025-06-05 Thread Ahmad Khalifa
On 05/06/2025 21:30, Soren Stoutner wrote: On Thursday, June 5, 2025 10:53:17 AM Mountain Standard Time Ahmad Khalifa wrote: Looks like you took over maintainership completely. Not that you provided help and collaborated with the original maintainer. This looks more like a package that should h

Re: New contributor experience

2025-06-05 Thread Richard Lewis
Andrey Rakhmatullin writes: > On Thu, Jun 05, 2025 at 08:51:38PM +0100, Richard Lewis wrote: >>> Consider this random new contributor's experience: >>> >>> 1. Go to https://www.debian.org/, click on "Get Involved, Contribute" >>> 2. Read https://www.debian.org/devel/join/, points you to "WNPP" >>

Re: New contributor experience

2025-06-05 Thread Soren Stoutner
On Thursday, June 5, 2025 10:53:17 AM Mountain Standard Time Ahmad Khalifa wrote: > Looks like you took over maintainership completely. Not that you > provided help and collaborated with the original maintainer. > > This looks more like a package that should have been orphaned long ago > when it

Re: New contributor experience

2025-06-05 Thread Richard Lewis
Ahmad Khalifa writes: > Consider this random new contributor's experience: > > 1. Go to https://www.debian.org/, click on "Get Involved, Contribute" > 2. Read https://www.debian.org/devel/join/, points you to "WNPP" > > Of course, this is my opinion, but it's debian's primary journey from > the

Re: New contributor experience

2025-06-05 Thread Andrey Rakhmatullin
On Thu, Jun 05, 2025 at 08:51:38PM +0100, Richard Lewis wrote: Consider this random new contributor's experience: 1. Go to https://www.debian.org/, click on "Get Involved, Contribute" 2. Read https://www.debian.org/devel/join/, points you to "WNPP" Of course, this is my opinion, but it's deb

Re: Bits from the DPL

2025-06-05 Thread Richard Lewis
c.bu...@posteo.jp writes: > for the folsk not involved with Debian GNU/Linux but monitoring it as > journalists for example I have to ask. thanks for trying to help, but the email you replied was aimed at an audience that understands terms like DFSG and SPI. If you want to critique documents, th

Re: New contributor experience

2025-06-05 Thread James McCoy
On Thu, Jun 05, 2025 at 08:41:30AM -0700, Soren Stoutner wrote: I typically load one of these two pages and use my browser’s find-on-page functionality to search them. https://www.debian.org/devel/wnpp/being_packaged https://www.debian.org/devel/wnpp/requested There's also https://wnpp.debian

Re: New contributor experience

2025-06-05 Thread Andrey Rakhmatullin
On Wed, Jun 04, 2025 at 02:58:24PM -0700, Soren Stoutner wrote: I have recent evidence of 2 newcomers complaining about wasting time on RFH bugs. Do you have recent evidence of anyone benefiting from RFH bugs? Yes, I recently adopted Courier (and related packages) because it had a RFH bug. *h

Re: New contributor experience

2025-06-05 Thread Ahmad Khalifa
On 04/06/2025 22:58, Soren Stoutner wrote: On Wednesday, June 4, 2025 6:05:25 AM Mountain Standard Time Ahmad Khalifa wrote: On 04/06/2025 13:50, Julien Plissonneau Duquène wrote: Le 2025-06-04 13:56, Ahmad Khalifa a écrit : Because they're misleading and waste contributor time. I don't thin

Re: New contributor experience

2025-06-05 Thread Soren Stoutner
On Thursday, June 5, 2025 4:26:10 AM Mountain Standard Time Holger Levsen wrote: > On Wed, Jun 04, 2025 at 11:51:37PM +0500, Andrey Rakhmatullin wrote: > > Not much, in my experience, because the only reliable way to find WNPP bugs > > for given software is, in my experience, Google. > > And soo

Re: New contributor experience

2025-06-05 Thread Andrey Rakhmatullin
On Thu, Jun 05, 2025 at 08:41:30AM -0700, Soren Stoutner wrote: > Not much, in my experience, because the only reliable way to find WNPP bugs > for given software is, in my experience, Google. And soon it will be s#Google#AI#. I think this tells more about you than about Debian or WNPP bugs.

Re: Project-wide LLM budget for helping people (was: Re: Complete and unified documentation for new maintainers

2025-06-05 Thread Holger Levsen
On Wed, Jun 04, 2025 at 05:04:34PM +0200, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > OpenAI has an Open Source fund. Maybe Debian should apply[1] for a grant > so that Debian contributors could get hands-on experience on how this > could help their Debian activities? or maybe Debian should not. -- cheers,

Re: New contributor experience

2025-06-05 Thread Holger Levsen
On Wed, Jun 04, 2025 at 11:51:37PM +0500, Andrey Rakhmatullin wrote: > Not much, in my experience, because the only reliable way to find WNPP bugs > for given software is, in my experience, Google. And soon it will be s#Google#AI#. I think this tells more about you than about Debian or WNPP bugs.

Re: New contributor experience

2025-06-05 Thread Phil Wyett
On Wed, 2025-06-04 at 18:33 +0100, Ahmad Khalifa wrote: > On 04/06/2025 18:28, Andrey Rakhmatullin wrote: > > On Wed, Jun 04, 2025 at 06:13:57PM +0100, Ahmad Khalifa wrote: > > > > And, when you "just" fix bugs, you don't have to the next frustrating > > > > threadmill that we offer: looking for a