On 5/22/25 22:47, Joerg Jaspert wrote:
Honestly, the packaging is the least important thing.
the point I was trying to make is that the implied argument/momentum of
"let's switch from gitlab to forgejo because forgejo is in Debian and
gitlab is not" is all hypothetical at this point.
if the
On 17602 March 1977, Daniel Baumann wrote:
I *currently* think its not time well spent. Time from a *lot* of
people, not just Salsa admins.
* there's no forgejo in the archive yet - the packaging needs to be
finished and a bunch of golang-* packages are in NEW. this will
take a whi
On 17602 March 1977, Matthias Geiger wrote:
I would like a switch, but i think its currently not realistic.
Thanks for the vote of confidence; I concur that this might be a nice
goal in the long run.
I use forgejo for my own things. I like it. (Its 6 or 7 repos...).
While it is not impossibl
On Thu, 22 May 2025 10:17:58 -0700, Otto Kekäläinen
wrote:
>Please stop making more strawmen arguments - why do you mention
>Discourse here and nothing about MUMI or the other things in my actual
>e-mail?
I was asked a direct question here and therefore feel obliged to
answer despite having said
On Thu, 2025-05-22 at 18:10 +0200, Matthias Geiger wrote:
> Nice to have the raw numbers; > 16k users is indeed a lot.
> The most recent number I could find for codeberg was 11k users and
> 12k repos.
FWIW: based on the "Explore" pages there seem to be ~161k repositories,
~157k users and ~11k orga
On Thu, 22 May 2025 18:10:54 +0200, Matthias Geiger
wrote:
>Nice to have the raw numbers; > 16k users is indeed a lot.
>The most recent number I could find for codeberg was 11k users and 12k
>repos.
Salsa happens to be one of the largest gitlab instances that exist.
Greetings
Marc
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> >Please don't make strawman arguments. If you read the links I provided
> >and the how Guix folks summarized their needs, you can see that
> >maintaining the e-mail capabilities was one of their main
> >requirements.
>
> I have seen Debian discuss introducing Discourse to replace the
> mailing li
On Thu, 22 May 2025 17:41, Joerg Jaspert wrote:
On 17602 March 1977, Matthias Geiger wrote:
While it is not that mature yet and some features are still being
worked
on, I think it already suitable to host small, non-key packages.
I would like a switch, but i think its currently not realisti
On 5/22/25 17:41, Joerg Jaspert wrote:
I *currently* think its not time well spent. Time from a *lot* of people, not
just Salsa admins.
yes, *this*.
apart from what I already wrote [0][1], please try to not follow up on
this topic for now:
* there's no forgejo in the archive yet - the pa
On Thu, 22 May 2025 14:36, Marco d'Itri wrote:
On May 22, Matthias Geiger wrote:
I think at the very least it's worth exploring its use parallel to
salsa, so we aren't negatively surprised one day.
Good idea: I propose that once a year you report to debian-project@
a comparison of the featur
On 22/05/2025 14:42, Jonathan Dowland wrote:
On Thu May 22, 2025 at 11:43 AM BST, Ahmad Khalifa wrote:
Migrating bug data to bugzilla is pretty straightforward.
Is Bugzilla actively maintained? Red Hat have abandoned it. Are Mozilla
still committed to it?
It's alive, not sure if sponsored b
On 17602 March 1977, Matthias Geiger wrote:
While it is not that mature yet and some features are still being
worked
on, I think it already suitable to host small, non-key packages.
I would like a switch, but i think its currently not realistic.
On the techical side of things:
To give peo
On Thu, May 22, 2025 at 05:00:03PM +0500, Andrey Rakhmatullin wrote:
Right, it was found to be 15, not 10, in
https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2024/12/msg00210.html, though I
guess the actually used one has deviated from the source?
Yeah, that file is just an example for local installatio
On Thu May 22, 2025 at 9:54 AM BST, Marc Haber wrote:
That noone has done this yet is a sign for me that we don't actually
need it so urgently. I think the distribution has more pressing things
to solve.
Back in 2011 I did write a front-end to the BTS in an attempt to address
the UX problem.
On Thu, May 22, 2025 at 02:30:13PM +0100, Jonathan Dowland wrote:
The formatting of this was mangled so I couldn't figure out which
parts of the mail were quotes and which weren't.
It's, again, related to format=flowed.
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On 5/22/25 4:41 PM, Jonathan Dowland wrote:
On Thu May 22, 2025 at 9:54 AM BST, Marc Haber wrote:
That noone has done this yet is a sign for me that we don't actually
need it so urgently. I think the distribution has more pressing things
to solve.
Back in 2011 I did write a front-end to the
On Thu May 22, 2025 at 11:43 AM BST, Ahmad Khalifa wrote:
Migrating bug data to bugzilla is pretty straightforward.
Is Bugzilla actively maintained? Red Hat have abandoned it. Are Mozilla
still committed to it?
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On May 22, Matthias Geiger wrote:
I think at the very least it's worth exploring its use parallel to
salsa, so we aren't negatively surprised one day.
Good idea: I propose that once a year you report to debian-project@
a comparison of the features available in Gitlab and forgejo.
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ciao,
Ma
Hi Otto, > > On 5/21/25 03:23, Otto Kekäläinen wrote: > > It would be nice to
read a writeup of what you plan is, and how the Go > team or other DDs
in general are expected to relate to this. > > I'm packaging forgejo
(currently ~21 golang packages are waiting in NEW, another ~10 soon to
be fin
On Thu, May 22, 2025 at 12:52:29PM +0100, Colin Watson wrote:
Do you really enjoy waiting 30 min for a bug to be created to
get a bug number?
I agree there are a number of problems with debbugs, but I don't
think it's helpful to exaggerate quite so wildly. The cron job
that processes incomin
On Thu, May 22, 2025 at 04:37:33PM +0500, Andrey Rakhmatullin wrote:
On Thu, May 22, 2025 at 12:00:05PM +0100, Colin Watson wrote:
Do you really enjoy waiting 30 min for a bug to be created to get
a bug number?
I agree there are a number of problems with debbugs, but I don't
think it's helpfu
On 22/05/2025 12:00, Colin Watson wrote:
On Thu, May 22, 2025 at 11:43:56AM +0100, Ahmad Khalifa wrote:
Do you really enjoy waiting 30 min for a bug to be created to get a
bug number?
I agree there are a number of problems with debbugs, but I don't think
it's helpful to exaggerate quite so wi
On Thu, May 22, 2025 at 12:00:05PM +0100, Colin Watson wrote:
Do you really enjoy waiting 30 min for a bug to be created to get a
bug number?
I agree there are a number of problems with debbugs, but I don't think
it's helpful to exaggerate quite so wildly. The cron job that
processes incomin
On 5/22/25 10:39 AM, Marc Haber wrote:
On Wed, 21 May 2025 22:25:36 -0700, Otto Kekäläinen
wrote:
I would significantly reduce my enjoyment of Debian if we were to move
away from mailing lists and the BTS. Surely the BTS could be a bit
more friendly in its advanced features, but new contibuto
On Thu, May 22, 2025 at 11:43:56AM +0100, Ahmad Khalifa wrote:
Do you really enjoy waiting 30 min for a bug to be created to get a
bug number?
I agree there are a number of problems with debbugs, but I don't think
it's helpful to exaggerate quite so wildly. The cron job that processes
incomi
On Thu, May 22, 2025 at 11:36:50AM +0300, Hakan Bayındır wrote:
I also like bugreport, debbugs, and current workflow, and it follows
natural to me (considering I'm both experienced with Debian ecosystem
and nearing graybeard territory). However, the initial experience is a
bit disconcerting for
On 22/05/2025 09:54, Marc Haber wrote:
On Thu, May 22, 2025 at 09:53:10AM +0200, Jérémy Lal wrote:
What would help is a web ui built on top of debbugs, and made
available to
anyone,
possibly by adding another link next to tracker.d.o bugs link.
That noone has done this yet is a sign for me th
On Thu, May 22, 2025 at 10:54:21AM +0200, Marc Haber wrote:
> On Thu, May 22, 2025 at 09:53:10AM +0200, Jérémy Lal wrote:
> > What would help is a web ui built on top of debbugs, and made available to
> > anyone,
> > possibly by adding another link next to tracker.d.o bugs link.
>
> That noone has
On Thu, May 22, 2025 at 02:37:00PM +0500, Andrey Rakhmatullin wrote:
Yes, the problem of not getting new contributors is by its nature not
urgent.
It is not proven that we will get new contributors by throwing away the
BTS and the mailing lists.
It is, however, proven, that we will lose old
On Thu, May 22, 2025 at 10:54:21AM +0200, Marc Haber wrote:
What would help is a web ui built on top of debbugs, and made available to
anyone,
possibly by adding another link next to tracker.d.o bugs link.
That noone has done this yet is a sign for me that we don't actually
need it so urgently
On Thu, May 22, 2025 at 09:53:10AM +0200, Jérémy Lal wrote:
What would help is a web ui built on top of debbugs, and made available to
anyone,
possibly by adding another link next to tracker.d.o bugs link.
That noone has done this yet is a sign for me that we don't actually
need it so urgently
Le jeu. 22 mai 2025 à 09:40, Marc Haber a
écrit :
> On Wed, 21 May 2025 22:25:36 -0700, Otto Kekäläinen
> wrote:
> >> I would significantly reduce my enjoyment of Debian if we were to move
> >> away from mailing lists and the BTS. Surely the BTS could be a bit
> >> more friendly in its advanced
On Wed, 21 May 2025 22:25:36 -0700, Otto Kekäläinen
wrote:
>> I would significantly reduce my enjoyment of Debian if we were to move
>> away from mailing lists and the BTS. Surely the BTS could be a bit
>> more friendly in its advanced features, but new contibutors can simply
>> ignore those, and
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