Dropping perl? (Was: Re: Dropping awk?)

2025-04-18 Thread Gioele Barabucci
On 18/04/25 23:17, Jonathan Dowland wrote: On Thu Apr 17, 2025 at 7:23 PM BST, Simon Josefsson wrote: I noticed that Fedora 42 was released and their docker images lack a 'awk' tool. They likely lack perl, as well. Most/all awk usage in maintainer scripts could probably be replaced with perl.

Re: Dropping awk?

2025-04-18 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Thu Apr 17, 2025 at 7:23 PM BST, Simon Josefsson wrote: I noticed that Fedora 42 was released and their docker images lack a 'awk' tool. They likely lack perl, as well. Most/all awk usage in maintainer scripts could probably be replaced with perl. But, if you are in the minimizing game, pe

Re: Dropping awk?

2025-04-18 Thread Santiago Vila
El 17/4/25 a las 21:03, Colin Watson escribió: On Thu, Apr 17, 2025 at 08:40:42PM +0200, Santiago Vila wrote: Installed size of mawk is 263 MB which is really small for today's standards. KB rather than MB, thankfully! Big oops! I wonder how small they want images to be to consider 263 KB un

Re: Bug#1100677: Pending autoremoval of debian-reference* packages

2025-04-18 Thread Andreas Metzler
On 2025-04-17 Osamu Aoki wrote: > Following up on my previous post. >> How about adding simpler versioned depends (no pre-depends) with pre-rm >> script? > I am talking about tricks using the "dpkg-maintscript-helper > symlink_to_dir ..." command. Any thought? [deleting drafted response] This

How to remove 19 raku-* packages from all ARM architectures ?

2025-04-18 Thread Dominique Dumont
Hi Currently rakudo cannot be shipped on arm architectures because of build issues. Upstream is working in this, but in the meantime, raku is not suitable for ARM. I've required the removal of moarm, nqp and rakudo from unstable/arm*, which was done a few days ago. But I forgot that all raku-

Re: Dropping awk?

2025-04-18 Thread Antonio Terceiro
On Thu, Apr 17, 2025 at 08:23:18PM +0200, Simon Josefsson wrote: > Is it possible to drop 'mawk' from the set of default tools in trixie? Regardless of the practical and important questions others raised on why and how to actually do it, no change like this could be done responsibly at this point

Re: POSIX sh compatibility (Re: Dropping awk?)

2025-04-18 Thread Michael Stone
On Fri, Apr 18, 2025 at 02:52:17PM +0800, Sean Whitton wrote: On Thu 17 Apr 2025 at 08:02pm -05, Richard Laager wrote: So, personally, I think getting mktemp(1) added to POSIX would be better for portability in the long run anyway. Eventually. POSIX.1-2017 is going to be the thing to target f

POSIX sh compatibility (Re: Dropping awk?)

2025-04-18 Thread Sean Whitton
Hello, On Thu 17 Apr 2025 at 03:51pm -04, Paul Tagliamonte wrote: > Our goal was to have an image that wasn't unique (or suprising) to a > Debian project member -- rather, IMVHO, the package(s) should be added > or removed from the minbase set via our usual conventions. This makes sense. In thi