Re: POSIX sh compatibility (Re: Dropping awk?)

2025-04-17 Thread Sean Whitton
Hello, On Thu 17 Apr 2025 at 08:02pm -05, Richard Laager wrote: > So, personally, I think getting mktemp(1) added to POSIX would be > better for portability in the long run anyway. Eventually. POSIX.1-2017 is going to be the thing to target for a long time, I think. GNU m4 doesn't follow POSIX

Bug#1103430: ITP: jmh -- harness for building, running, and analysing Java benchmarks

2025-04-17 Thread Pierre Gruet
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Debian-Java team X-Debbugs-Cc: debian-devel@lists.debian.org, debian-j...@lists.debian.org -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 * Package name: jmh Version : 1.37 Upstream Contact: OpenJDK Community * URL : https://op

Re: Dropping awk?

2025-04-17 Thread Tianon Gravi
On Thu, Apr 17, 2025 at 03:51:15PM -0400, Paul Tagliamonte wrote: > On Thu, Apr 17, 2025 at 11:27:22AM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > > awk is in the essential set in Debian, so this would be a very substantial > > amount of work. > > {Docker image comaintainer hat on} > > This is right. More specifi

Re: Dropping awk?

2025-04-17 Thread Helmut Grohne
Hi Simon, On Thu, Apr 17, 2025 at 08:23:18PM +0200, Simon Josefsson wrote: > I noticed that Fedora 42 was released and their docker images lack a > 'awk' tool. Debian trixie images ship with 'mawk' pre-installed right > now. While I'm not convinced the removal game is necessarily a good > one, I

Re: I cannot upload since yesterday

2025-04-17 Thread Salvo Tomaselli
> I uploaded on Monday using the ssh-upload target. Have you tried that > one? No I just tried regular dput, but it seems to have started working again now. -- Salvo Tomaselli "Io non mi sento obbligato a credere che lo stesso Dio che ci ha dotato di senso, ragione ed intelletto intendesse ch

Bug#1103477: ITP: ffuf -- Fast web fuzzer written in Go

2025-04-17 Thread Facundo Acevedo
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Facundo Acevedo X-Debbugs-CC: debian-devel@lists.debian.org, debian...@lists.debian.org * Package name    : ffuf   Version : 2.1.0-1   Upstream Author : https://github.com/ffuf * URL : https://github.com/ffuf/ffuf * License : Ex

Re: POSIX sh compatibility (Re: Dropping awk?)

2025-04-17 Thread Richard Laager
On 2025-04-17 19:44, Sean Whitton wrote: m4 is the only way POSIX.1-2017 defines to safely create a temporary file (outside of writing and compiling a C program). I was not aware of using m4 for this, so that piqued my interest. I think the newer POSIX standard has not improved on this partic

Re: Dropping awk?

2025-04-17 Thread Samuel Henrique
On Thu, 17 Apr 2025 at 19:41, Santiago Vila wrote: > Installed size of mawk is 263 MB which is really small for today's standards. Isn't that bad for the Debian minimal images for containers? I'm not too familiar with how we generate our container images but I can see mawk there and Debian is us

Re: Dropping awk?

2025-04-17 Thread Josh Triplett
Simon Josefsson wrote: > Debian trixie images ship with 'mawk' pre-installed right now. While > I'm not convinced the removal game is necessarily a good one, I can > see that it does have some advantages. Is it possible to drop 'mawk' > from the set of default tools in trixie? If not, what are t

Re: Dropping awk?

2025-04-17 Thread Paul Tagliamonte
On Thu, Apr 17, 2025 at 11:27:22AM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: awk is in the essential set in Debian, so this would be a very substantial amount of work. {Docker image comaintainer hat on} This is right. More specifically -- the Debian docker images are (intentionally) -- "just" `debootstrap --

Re: Dropping awk?

2025-04-17 Thread Colin Watson
On Thu, Apr 17, 2025 at 08:40:42PM +0200, Santiago Vila wrote: Installed size of mawk is 263 MB which is really small for today's standards. KB rather than MB, thankfully! -- Colin Watson (he/him) [cjwat...@debian.org]

Dropping awk?

2025-04-17 Thread Simon Josefsson
Hi I noticed that Fedora 42 was released and their docker images lack a 'awk' tool. Debian trixie images ship with 'mawk' pre-installed right now. While I'm not convinced the removal game is necessarily a good one, I can see that it does have some advantages. Is it possible to drop 'mawk' from

Re: Dropping awk?

2025-04-17 Thread Santiago Vila
El 17/4/25 a las 20:27, Russ Allbery escribió: Simon Josefsson writes: I noticed that Fedora 42 was released and their docker images lack a 'awk' tool. Debian trixie images ship with 'mawk' pre-installed right now. While I'm not convinced the removal game is necessarily a good one, I can see

Re: Dropping awk?

2025-04-17 Thread Russ Allbery
Simon Josefsson writes: > I noticed that Fedora 42 was released and their docker images lack a > 'awk' tool. Debian trixie images ship with 'mawk' pre-installed right > now. While I'm not convinced the removal game is necessarily a good > one, I can see that it does have some advantages. Is it

Re: Bug#1100677: Pending autoremoval of debian-reference* packages

2025-04-17 Thread Osamu Aoki
Hi, Following up on my previous post. > How about adding simpler versioned depends (no pre-depends) with pre-rm > script? I am talking about tricks using the "dpkg-maintscript-helper symlink_to_dir ..." command. Any thought? Osamu On Thu, 2025-04-17 at 20:40 +0900, Osamu Aoki wrote: > Hi, >

Re: Bug#1100677: Pending autoremoval of debian-reference* packages

2025-04-17 Thread Osamu Aoki
Hi, I now see this as a bug. I think this was caused by my post-bookworm change in debian-reference (2.109) on Mon, 18 Dec 2023. If I remember correctly, the intent of this change was to move all HTML/PDF/Plain_Text document to a path under /usr/share/doc/ for better policy compliance. This r

Re: MBF: Packages which break with nocheck

2025-04-17 Thread Holger Levsen
On Thu, Apr 17, 2025 at 09:45:53AM +0200, Santiago Vila wrote: > > > I wish reproducible-builds people would activate DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS=nocheck > > > for the second build, I think it would help. I don't think anybody will > > > use that as an excuse to file more RC bugs. > > They mentioned earlier

Re: MBF: Packages which break with nocheck

2025-04-17 Thread Santiago Vila
El 17/4/25 a las 9:21, Paul Gevers escribió: Hi, On 16-04-2025 19:59, Santiago Vila wrote: I wish reproducible-builds people would activate DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS=nocheck for the second build, I think it would help. I don't think anybody will use that as an excuse to file more RC bugs. They mentio

Re: MBF: Packages which break with nocheck

2025-04-17 Thread Paul Gevers
Hi, On 16-04-2025 19:59, Santiago Vila wrote: I wish reproducible-builds people would activate DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS=nocheck for the second build, I think it would help. I don't think anybody will use that as an excuse to file more RC bugs. They mentioned earlier on IRC that they'll do just that