Re: Change the expectation that emails should wrap at 80 characters

2025-03-03 Thread Andrea Pappacoda
Hi Henrik, On Mon Mar 3, 2025 at 10:12 PM CET, Henrik Ahlgren wrote: Soren Stoutner writes: All of the subsequent emails I have sent as part of this discussion have been wrapped at 80 characters inline with the current mailing list code of conduct. If I'm not mistaken, your emails (at leas

Re: Change the expectation that emails should wrap at 80 characters

2025-03-03 Thread Stephan Verbücheln
> However, I would appreciate it if this discussion were not hijacked > to discuss HTML vs. plain text. In case we define any new rules, it has to cover both. > That is interesting.  I have Kmail set to wrap at 80 columns.  > However, it wouldn’t surprise me if Kmail has some bug in this > regard

Bug#1099479: ITP: hyprlock -- Screen locking utility for Hyprland

2025-03-03 Thread Carl Keinath
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Carl Keinath X-Debbugs-Cc: debian-devel@lists.debian.org * Package name: hyprlock Version : 0.7.0 Upstream Contact: vaxerski * URL : https://github.com/hyprwm/hyprlock * License : BSD-3-Clause Programming Lang: C++ D

Re: nerd-sniping [was: Change the expectation that emails should wrap at 80 characters]

2025-03-03 Thread Jeremy Sowden
On 2025-03-03, at 14:26:36 -0800, Russ Allbery wrote: > [snip] I am getting nerd-sniped here [snip] I did not know that there was a word for this. I have learnt something fun to-day. Thanks, Russ (and Randall). :) J. signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: Change the expectation that emails should wrap at 80 characters

2025-03-03 Thread Soren Stoutner
On Monday, March 3, 2025 3:26:36 PM MST Russ Allbery wrote: > Soren Stoutner writes: > > I agree. Having the sending MUA wrap text creates problems, even with > > efforts like format=flowed that try to hint to the receiving MUA how to > > unwrap the text. > > I am getting nerd-sniped here and rea

Re: Change the expectation that emails should wrap at 80 characters

2025-03-03 Thread Roger Lynn
On 03/03/2025 19:10, Soren Stoutner wrote: > On Monday, March 3, 2025 11:38:29 AM MST Philipp Kern wrote: >> Mine doesn't wrap properly either, especially on wide screens. Neither >> Thunderbird nor Roundcube. 80 characters are perfectly readable, >> long-lines are increasingly annoying to read. >>

Re: Change the expectation that emails should wrap at 80 characters

2025-03-03 Thread Russ Allbery
Soren Stoutner writes: > I agree. Having the sending MUA wrap text creates problems, even with > efforts like format=flowed that try to hint to the receiving MUA how to > unwrap the text. I am getting nerd-sniped here and really should continue ignoring this thread, but just for the record: * Y

Re: Change the expectation that emails should wrap at 80 characters

2025-03-03 Thread Stephan Verbücheln
Am Montag, dem 03.03.2025 um 13:38 -0700 schrieb Soren Stoutner: > Also, as I mentioned elsewhere in this thread, this is not a > discussion about the merits of HTML vs plain text.  As long as emails > to the mailing list contain a plain text part, I know of no problem > caused by them also contain

Re: Change the expectation that emails should wrap at 80 characters

2025-03-03 Thread Soren Stoutner
On Monday, March 3, 2025 2:28:38 PM MST Stephan Verbücheln wrote: > Am Montag, dem 03.03.2025 um 13:38 -0700 schrieb Soren Stoutner: > > Also, as I mentioned elsewhere in this thread, this is not a > > discussion about the merits of HTML vs plain text. As long as emails > > to the mailing list con

Re: Change the expectation that emails should wrap at 80 characters

2025-03-03 Thread Henrik Ahlgren
Soren Stoutner writes: All of the subsequent emails I have sent as part of this discussion have been wrapped at 80 characters inline with the current mailing list code of conduct. If I'm not mistaken, your emails (at least this one I am replying to) utilize Format=Flowed (in the text/pain

Re: Change the expectation that emails should wrap at 80 characters

2025-03-03 Thread Soren Stoutner
On Monday, March 3, 2025 12:48:24 PM MST Jeremy Stanley wrote: > On 2025-03-03 10:35:32 -0700 (-0700), Soren Stoutner wrote: > [...] > > > I am not an expert on format=flowed, so I can’t vouch for the > > following myself, but I thought it was interesting that the > > article above linked to the f

Re: Change the expectation that emails should wrap at 80 characters

2025-03-03 Thread Soren Stoutner
On Monday, March 3, 2025 1:19:50 PM MST Stephan Verbücheln wrote: > Are you aware that you are sending HTML messages the whole time? Yes, as I mentioned elsewhere in this thread, the current version of Kmail defaults to sending both plain text and HMTL parts for every email. Also, as I mentione

Re: Change the expectation that emails should wrap at 80 characters

2025-03-03 Thread Stephan Verbücheln
Are you aware that you are sending HTML messages the whole time? Are you aware that in those HTML parts, the source code is limited to 80 characters per line? Have you ever noticed that this is also the case for base64-encoded binary attachments? Are you aware that even the text/plain section of

Re: Change the expectation that emails should wrap at 80 characters

2025-03-03 Thread Jeremy Stanley
On 2025-03-03 10:35:32 -0700 (-0700), Soren Stoutner wrote: [...] I am not an expert on format=flowed, so I can’t vouch for the following myself, but I thought it was interesting that the article above linked to the following: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/MailingListEtiquette#Thunderbird W

Re: Change the expectation that emails should wrap at 80 characters

2025-03-03 Thread Soren Stoutner
On Monday, March 3, 2025 11:38:29 AM MST Philipp Kern wrote: > On 2025-03-03 18:39, Soren Stoutner wrote: > > On Friday, February 28, 2025 7:30:53 PM MST Mason Loring Bliss > > > > wrote: > >> Looks pretty awful to me. Screenshot attached. > > > > Yes, the screenshot you sent shows how ugly it is

Re: Change the expectation that emails should wrap at 80 characters

2025-03-03 Thread Philipp Kern
On 2025-03-03 18:39, Soren Stoutner wrote: On Friday, February 28, 2025 7:30:53 PM MST Mason Loring Bliss wrote: Looks pretty awful to me. Screenshot attached. Yes, the screenshot you sent shows how ugly it is when my email client wraps sending emails at 80 columns. It is for this reason I th

Re: Bug reports for Uploaders (was: Re #397761: bugs.debian.org: please forward bug reports to Uploaders also)

2025-03-03 Thread Andreas Metzler
On 2025-03-02 Blair Noctis wrote: [...] > 2. Let PTS automatically subscribe maintainers to packages they are Uploaders > of > In the current version of the PTS, subscribing to a package means either a. > after logging in, clicking the Subscribe button on > tracker.debian.org/pkg/foo, and opti

Re: Change the expectation that emails should wrap at 80 characters

2025-03-03 Thread Soren Stoutner
On Friday, February 28, 2025 7:30:53 PM MST Mason Loring Bliss wrote: > Looks pretty awful to me. Screenshot attached. Yes, the screenshot you sent shows how ugly it is when my email client wraps sending emails at 80 columns. It is for this reason I think we ought to get rid of that and simply

Re: Change the expectation that emails should wrap at 80 characters

2025-03-03 Thread Soren Stoutner
On Sunday, March 2, 2025 9:50:47 AM MST Andrea Pappacoda wrote: > >> https://www.fastmail.com/blog/format-flowed/ > > Rather than "the little standard that couldnʼt quite make it", I'd > call this article "the standard that we (Fastmail) wanted to support, > but couldn't make it". More than highli

Bug#1099423: RFP: plutosvg -- Tiny SVG rendering library in C

2025-03-03 Thread Simon McVittie
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist X-Debbugs-Cc: debian-devel@lists.debian.org, debian-devel-ga...@lists.debian.org, libsdl3-...@packages.debian.org Control: affects -1 + src:libsdl3-ttf * Package name: plutosvg Version : 0.0.6 (as of 2025-03-03) Upstream Contact: Samuel Ugochukwu *

Bug#1099422: RFP: plutovg -- Tiny 2D vector graphics library in C

2025-03-03 Thread Simon McVittie
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist X-Debbugs-Cc: debian-devel@lists.debian.org, debian-devel-ga...@lists.debian.org, libsdl3-...@packages.debian.org Control: affects -1 + src:libsdl3-ttf * Package name: plutovg Version : 0.0.13 (as of 2025-03-03) Upstream Contact: Samuel Ugochukwu *

Re: Bug reports for Uploaders

2025-03-03 Thread Blair Noctis
On 03/03/2025 03:52, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: Quoting Blair Noctis (2025-03-02 18:06:49) [...] Dan Armstrong (don) wontfix'd it after stating that, quote: If the maintainer is not given as a mailing list, then the uploaders should all subscribe to the PTS for a given package. [...] I added th