Re: Barriers between packages and other people

2025-01-05 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi Niels, Am Sun, Jan 05, 2025 at 12:40:54PM +0100 schrieb Niels Thykier: > The "I'll do the job until the second someone else shows up" sounds close to > RFA (Request For Adoption). > > Maybe we can do with a variant like OFA (Open For Adoption), which does not > have the "lingering ownership" t

Re: Building packages in the future.

2025-01-05 Thread Holger Levsen
On Sun, Jan 05, 2025 at 11:58:40PM +0100, Chris Hofstaedtler wrote: > Maybe you can consider using a time namespace (unshare -T) and > change the system date/time in that namespace. I'd also strongly suggest to do a full archive rebuild in such namespace comparing that with a full archive rebuild

Re: Building packages in the future.

2025-01-05 Thread Santiago Vila
[ moving technical discussion to -devel, as -release was just to ask RM for a calendar to raise severities ] [ Bcc to Holger on this one ] El 5/1/25 a las 23:59, Holger Levsen escribió: so what did you use? I still change the system clock. So, the same you did.

Re: Building packages in the future.

2025-01-05 Thread Holger Levsen
On Sun, Jan 05, 2025 at 09:28:24PM +0100, Santiago Vila wrote: > > Did you use libfaketime in this round of rebuilds? > No, I did not use libfaketime yet (sorry). so what did you use? setting the system time to the future (like we've been doing for tests.reproducible-builds.org/debian for many

Re: Building packages in the future.

2025-01-05 Thread Chris Hofstaedtler
Hi, * Otto Kekäläinen [250105 21:54]: > Thanks for encouragement. I filed > https://salsa.debian.org/salsa-ci-team/pipeline/-/issues/411 and will > continue research on libfaketime/datefudge in CI there. as we've seen in the time_t-64 transition, programs that interpose library calls like this a

Re: Building packages in the future.

2025-01-05 Thread Santiago Vila
El 5/1/25 a las 21:07, Otto Kekäläinen escribió: This is an update for my previous MBF announcement here: https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2024/05/msg00414.html I did another test rebuild and found 11 new packages failing in the not-so-distant future. I also found another package for which

Re: Building packages in the future.

2025-01-05 Thread Otto Kekäläinen
Thanks for encouragement. I filed https://salsa.debian.org/salsa-ci-team/pipeline/-/issues/411 and will continue research on libfaketime/datefudge in CI there.

Re: Barriers between packages and other people

2025-01-05 Thread Otto Kekäläinen
Hi, > Gioele Barabucci: > We need different levels of responsibility: > > * Nobody cares ⇒ orphan package > * I care a bit, but I don't have time to handle all the responsibilities > that a maintainership entail, but try to contact me anyway, I may reply > ⇒ MISSING LEVEL discussed here > * I care

Re: Building packages in the future.

2025-01-05 Thread Santiago Ruano Rincón
Em 5 de janeiro de 2025 15:28:24 GMT-05:00, Santiago Vila escreveu: >El 5/1/25 a las 21:07, Otto Kekäläinen escribió: >>> This is an update for my previous MBF announcement here: >>> >>> https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2024/05/msg00414.html >>> >>> I did another test rebuild and found

Re: Building packages in the future.

2025-01-05 Thread Otto Kekäläinen
Hi! > This is an update for my previous MBF announcement here: > > https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2024/05/msg00414.html > > I did another test rebuild and found 11 new packages failing > in the not-so-distant future. I also found another package > for which the fix was lost and the bug had

Re: gettext 0.23.x

2025-01-05 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi! On Sun, 2025-01-05 at 19:37:44 +0100, Santiago Vila wrote: > El 5/1/25 a las 19:15, Guillem Jover escribió: > > I think this indicates a problem in the upstream autotools support, > > and it might be better to try to fix that instead of adding what seems > > like a workaround that might end up

Re: gettext 0.23.x

2025-01-05 Thread Santiago Vila
El 5/1/25 a las 19:15, Guillem Jover escribió: I think this indicates a problem in the upstream autotools support, and it might be better to try to fix that instead of adding what seems like a workaround that might end up causing problems too due to the (silenced) version mismatch. I already di

Re: gettext 0.23.x

2025-01-05 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi! On Sun, 2025-01-05 at 17:44:33 +0100, Santiago Vila wrote: > I've just uploaded gettext 0.23.1-0.1 for experimental. Ah, great, thanks! > In most cases, the failure is like this: > > make[3]: Entering directory '/<>/po' > *** error: gettext infrastructure mismatch: using a Makefile.in.in fr

Building packages in the future.

2025-01-05 Thread Santiago Vila
Hello. This is an update for my previous MBF announcement here: https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2024/05/msg00414.html I did another test rebuild and found 11 new packages failing in the not-so-distant future. I also found another package for which the fix was lost and the bug had to reope

gettext 0.23.x

2025-01-05 Thread Santiago Vila
Greetings. I've just uploaded gettext 0.23.1-0.1 for experimental. [ This is preliminary, don't worry for the changelog, there will be a proper one in unstable. Also please don't close any bugs yet, I want to close them in unstable ]. There is a list of upstream changes here: https://savannah.

Re: mpi-testsuite

2025-01-05 Thread alastair
On 2025-01-05 08:07, Drew Parsons wrote: On 2025-01-05 08:39, Alastair McKinstry wrote: Hi, I am thinking about re-instating mpi-testsuite, last in the archive in 2018. Any thoughts? Alastair I'd say it's a good idea. mpi4py has sort of been serving in the role of a test suite, but it

Re: Barriers between packages and other people

2025-01-05 Thread Niels Thykier
Niels Thykier: Marc Haber: On Sat, 21 Dec 2024 22:23:19 +0100, Gioele Barabucci wrote: This branch of the discussion started by pointing out the fact that some maintainers _do_ in fact orphan their packages to remove the "feeling of being responsible", and then go on maintaining these packages

Re: Barriers between packages and other people

2025-01-05 Thread Niels Thykier
Marc Haber: On Sat, 21 Dec 2024 22:23:19 +0100, Gioele Barabucci wrote: This branch of the discussion started by pointing out the fact that some maintainers _do_ in fact orphan their packages to remove the "feeling of being responsible", and then go on maintaining these packages. Its a way to

Bug#1092143: ITP: python-advanced-alchemy -- Carefully crafted, tested, optimized companion library for SQLAlchemy

2025-01-05 Thread Carsten Schoenert
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Carsten Schoenert X-Debbugs-Cc: debian-devel@lists.debian.org * Package name: python-advanced-alchemy Version : 0.26.2 Upstream Contact: Litestar Developers * URL : https://github.com/litestar-org/advanced-alchemy * License

Re: A 2025 NewYear present: make dpkg --force-unsafe-io the default?

2025-01-05 Thread Florian Weimer
* Theodore Ts'o: > On Thu, Dec 26, 2024 at 01:19:34PM -0500, Michael Stone wrote: >> Further reading: look at the auto_da_alloc option in ext4. Note that it says >> that doing the rename without the sync is wrong, but there's now a heuristic >> in ext4 that tries to insert an implicit sync when th