Re: Suitability of Rust for *all* architectures? [WAS Re: Rustc unsoundness on i386]

2024-11-23 Thread Andrey Rakhmatullin
On Sat, Nov 23, 2024 at 07:05:39PM +, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > > > B) bump the i386 baseline in Debian to require SSE2, and stop disabling > > > SSE2 there in rustc > > > > As suggested by Chris, and a popular opinion/request in general. > > > > Considering that for Trixie we won't have a

Re: Rustc unsoundness on i386

2024-11-23 Thread Andrey Rakhmatullin
On Sat, Nov 23, 2024 at 08:31:15PM +, Bastien Roucariès wrote: > > > > > B) bump the i386 baseline in Debian to require SSE2, and stop > > > > > disabling SSE2 there in rustc > > > > > > It will break I suppose imagemagick on i386 and scientific software > > > testsuite > > > > > > i386 means

Re: Rustc unsoundness on i386

2024-11-23 Thread Shengjing Zhu
On Sat, Nov 23, 2024 at 10:30 PM Fabian Grünbichler wrote: > A) move i386 rustc to Rust's i586 target (which doesn't have SSE out of the > box), instead of the i686-with-SSE2-disabled it currently uses > B) bump the i386 baseline in Debian to require SSE2, and stop disabling SSE2 > there in rust

Re: Misc Developer News (#60)

2024-11-23 Thread Johannes Schauer Marin Rodrigues
Hi, Quoting Sean Whitton (2024-11-24 01:23:24) > This is interesting. One concern I have is speed -- isn't it always slower > to have to unpack a tarball before the build instead of having a chroot under > /srv/chroot that's always unpacked? that is correct. Unpacking a tarball takes time. Havin

Re: DEP-18: Git and GitLab usage in other Linux distros (Re: Representing Debian Metadata in Git)

2024-11-23 Thread Otto Kekäläinen
> [ Requiring two party sign-off on every change ] > > I wonder if it would make sense to organize some kind of "office > > hours" for code reviews and code testing best practices and > > guidance... > > As someone working in a very large organization where this is required: > That's fine in a comp

Re: [Summary]: Supporting alternative zlib implementations

2024-11-23 Thread Fay Stegerman
* Chris Hofstaedtler [2024-11-23 20:56]: > * Fay Stegerman [241123 19:58]: > > I agree that it *should not* be Debian's responsibility to ensure > > compatibility > > with Fedora/Windows/etc., but the reality is that if "you need the same > > tools to > > generate the same output" -- which righ

Re: Misc Developer News (#60)

2024-11-23 Thread Sean Whitton
Hello, On Sat 23 Nov 2024 at 10:20pm +01, Philipp Kern wrote: > sbuild chroot manager for unshare backend users > --- > > After installing sbuild 0.87.0 or later from unstable, you can now build > packages without any additional setup. With an empty ~

Re: DEP-18: Git and GitLab usage in other Linux distros (Re: Representing Debian Metadata in Git)

2024-11-23 Thread Philipp Kern
On 11/10/24 3:42 AM, Otto Kekäläinen wrote: [ Requiring two party sign-off on every change ] > I wonder if it would make sense to organize some kind of "office > hours" for code reviews and code testing best practices and > guidance... As someone working in a very large organization where this is

Re: Rustc unsoundness on i386

2024-11-23 Thread Bastien Roucariès
Le samedi 23 novembre 2024, 20:20:31 UTC Fabian Grünbichler a écrit : > > On November 23, 2024 9:03:26 PM GMT+01:00, "Jeremy Bícha" > wrote: > >On Sat, Nov 23, 2024 at 1:57 PM Bastien Roucariès wrote: > >> > >> Le samedi 23 novembre 2024, 18:29:04 UTC Andrey Rakhmatullin a écrit : > >> > On Sat

Re: Rustc unsoundness on i386

2024-11-23 Thread Fabian Grünbichler
On November 23, 2024 9:03:26 PM GMT+01:00, "Jeremy Bícha" wrote: >On Sat, Nov 23, 2024 at 1:57 PM Bastien Roucariès wrote: >> >> Le samedi 23 novembre 2024, 18:29:04 UTC Andrey Rakhmatullin a écrit : >> > On Sat, Nov 23, 2024 at 03:14:42PM +0100, Fabian Grünbichler wrote: >> > > B) bump the i

Re: Rustc unsoundness on i386

2024-11-23 Thread Bastien Roucariès
Le samedi 23 novembre 2024, 20:03:26 UTC Jeremy Bícha a écrit : > On Sat, Nov 23, 2024 at 1:57 PM Bastien Roucariès wrote: > > > > Le samedi 23 novembre 2024, 18:29:04 UTC Andrey Rakhmatullin a écrit : > > > On Sat, Nov 23, 2024 at 03:14:42PM +0100, Fabian Grünbichler wrote: > > > > B) bump the i3

Re: Rustc unsoundness on i386

2024-11-23 Thread Jeremy Bícha
On Sat, Nov 23, 2024 at 1:57 PM Bastien Roucariès wrote: > > Le samedi 23 novembre 2024, 18:29:04 UTC Andrey Rakhmatullin a écrit : > > On Sat, Nov 23, 2024 at 03:14:42PM +0100, Fabian Grünbichler wrote: > > > B) bump the i386 baseline in Debian to require SSE2, and stop disabling > > > SSE2 ther

Re: [Summary]: Supporting alternative zlib implementations

2024-11-23 Thread Chris Hofstaedtler
* Fay Stegerman [241123 19:58]: > I agree that it *should not* be Debian's responsibility to ensure > compatibility > with Fedora/Windows/etc., but the reality is that if "you need the same tools > to > generate the same output" -- which right now means using the same JDK and > Android toolchain

Suitability of Rust for *all* architectures? [WAS Re: Rustc unsoundness on i386]

2024-11-23 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Sat, Nov 23, 2024 at 11:29:04PM +0500, Andrey Rakhmatullin wrote: > On Sat, Nov 23, 2024 at 03:14:42PM +0100, Fabian Grünbichler wrote: > > B) bump the i386 baseline in Debian to require SSE2, and stop disabling > > SSE2 there in rustc > > As suggested by Chris, and a popular opinion/request i

Re: [Summary]: Supporting alternative zlib implementations

2024-11-23 Thread Fay Stegerman
* Guillem Jover [2024-11-22 12:29]: [...] > * There were concerns (from Fay) about the output stream changing due > to a potential implementation switch and that affecting external > reproducibility. Personally I think while I can see how this is > annoying for the involved parties,

Re: Rustc unsoundness on i386

2024-11-23 Thread Bastien Roucariès
Le samedi 23 novembre 2024, 18:29:04 UTC Andrey Rakhmatullin a écrit : > On Sat, Nov 23, 2024 at 03:14:42PM +0100, Fabian Grünbichler wrote: > > B) bump the i386 baseline in Debian to require SSE2, and stop disabling > > SSE2 there in rustc It will break I suppose imagemagick on i386 and scientif

Re: Rustc unsoundness on i386

2024-11-23 Thread Andrey Rakhmatullin
On Sat, Nov 23, 2024 at 03:14:42PM +0100, Fabian Grünbichler wrote: > B) bump the i386 baseline in Debian to require SSE2, and stop disabling SSE2 > there in rustc As suggested by Chris, and a popular opinion/request in general. -- WBR, wRAR signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: Rustc unsoundness on i386

2024-11-23 Thread Johannes Schauer Marin Rodrigues
Quoting Chris Hofstaedtler (2024-11-23 17:50:25) > * Fabian Grünbichler [241123 15:31]: > > A) move i386 rustc to Rust's i586 target (which doesn't have SSE out of the > > box), instead of the i686-with-SSE2-disabled it currently uses > > B) bump the i386 baseline in Debian to require SSE2, and s

Re: Rustc unsoundness on i386

2024-11-23 Thread Chris Hofstaedtler
* Fabian Grünbichler [241123 15:31]: > A) move i386 rustc to Rust's i586 target (which doesn't have SSE out of the > box), instead of the i686-with-SSE2-disabled it currently uses > B) bump the i386 baseline in Debian to require SSE2, and stop disabling SSE2 > there in rustc > C) disable all opt

Re: Rustc unsoundness on i386

2024-11-23 Thread Fabian Grünbichler
On Sat, Nov 23, 2024, at 3:14 PM, Fabian Grünbichler wrote: > On Sat, Nov 23, 2024, at 1:09 PM, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: >> Quoting Chris Hofstaedtler (2024-11-23 04:16:29) >>> * Jonas Smedegaard [241122 18:01]: >>> > > All release architectures support Rust. We should not accept >>> > > release

Re: Rustc unsoundness on i386

2024-11-23 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
[individuals stripped as recipients, as per Debian mailinglist policy] Quoting Fabian Grünbichler (2024-11-23 15:14:42) > p.s.: if you become aware of such an issue with any toolchain, it > would be nice to file a bug report *with the corresponding toolchain > package in Debian* to make its mainta

Rustc unsoundness on i386

2024-11-23 Thread Fabian Grünbichler
On Sat, Nov 23, 2024, at 1:09 PM, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > Quoting Chris Hofstaedtler (2024-11-23 04:16:29) >> * Jonas Smedegaard [241122 18:01]: >> > > All release architectures support Rust. We should not accept >> > > release architectures without Rust support. >> > > >> > > A minor set of po

Plasma 6 coming to unstable

2024-11-23 Thread Aurélien COUDERC
Dear fellow developers and Plasma users, after some months living in experimental and lots of positive feedback, we're about to upload Plasma 6 to unstable. The plans of the Qt / KDE team is to release Trixie with : - Qt 5 & 6 - KDE Frameworks 5 aka KF5 (based on Qt 5) & KF6 (based on Qt6

Re: Moving apt (and hence bootstraps) from GnuPG to Sequioa (via gpgv-sq)

2024-11-23 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting Chris Hofstaedtler (2024-11-23 04:16:29) > * Jonas Smedegaard [241122 18:01]: > > > All release architectures support Rust. We should not accept > > > release architectures without Rust support. > > > > > > A minor set of ports architectures does not have Rust support > > > yet. > > > >

Re: Musings about Usernames in adduser and Debian

2024-11-23 Thread Gioele Barabucci
On 23/11/24 09:32, Johannes Schauer Marin Rodrigues wrote: But my 2 cents on the topic are: Lets please allow more than ascii in usernames. Yes please, but opt-in and behind a big red warning that says that it is not interoperable (outside POSIX), potentially insecure (homographs) and at high

Re: Musings about Usernames in adduser and Debian

2024-11-23 Thread nick black
Johannes Schauer Marin Rodrigues left as an exercise for the reader: > Quoting nick black (2024-11-23 08:48:10) > > You now have glyphs which occupy more than one column. Are your > > columnar/tabular programs prepared for that? ﷽𒁭𒐫i > > xfce-terminal renders this like this: https://mister-muffin.

Re: Program request (dosemu).

2024-11-23 Thread Peter B
Hi Mike, dosemu is in the archive and snapshot. Rather long links I'm afraid! http://archive.debian.org/debian-archive/debian/pool/contrib/d/dosemu/dosemu_1.4.0.7+20130105+b028d3f-2+b1_amd64.deb https://snapshot.debian.org/archive/debian-archive/20240331T102506Z/debian/pool/contrib/d/dosemu/dos

Bug#1088097: ITP: python-asyncinject -- Run async workflows using pytest-fixtures-style dependency injection

2024-11-23 Thread Edward Betts
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Edward Betts X-Debbugs-Cc: debian-devel@lists.debian.org, debian-pyt...@lists.debian.org * Package name: python-asyncinject Version : 0.6 Upstream Author : Simon Willison * URL : https://github.com/simonw/asyncinject * License

Re: Moving apt (and hence bootstraps) from GnuPG to Sequioa (via gpgv-sq)

2024-11-23 Thread Holger Levsen
On Fri, Nov 22, 2024 at 06:25:58PM +0100, Julian Andres Klode wrote: > If you want to learn more about Sequoia and the Chameleon > in particular, watch Holger's talk at this year's DebConf: > https://debconf24.debconf.org/talks/16-chameleon-the-easy-way-to-try-out-sequoia-openpgp-written-in-rust/

Re: Musings about Usernames in adduser and Debian

2024-11-23 Thread Johannes Schauer Marin Rodrigues
Quoting nick black (2024-11-23 08:48:10) > You now have glyphs which occupy more than one column. Are your > columnar/tabular programs prepared for that? ﷽𒁭𒐫i xfce-terminal renders this like this: https://mister-muffin.de/p/4o2v.png No idea if this is correct and I'll leave the details to those w