Re: Questionable Package Present in Debian: fortune-mod

2023-08-21 Thread Steve Langasek
On Mon, Aug 21, 2023 at 06:55:03PM +, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > Ubuntu - our "downstream" has abandoned fortunes-off as incompatible with > their Code of Conduct (which is strikingly similar to ours). For the record, when I uploaded the change to drop this package from Ubuntu, what I said was

Re: [RFC] Extending project standards to services linked through Vcs-*

2023-08-21 Thread Dominik George
Hi, > As an aside, unless something has changed very recently, GH does not > give you a way to disable PRs (issues yes but not PRs). > > If that has suddenly become possible, I have around a thousand > projects I help maintain upstream on a non-GitHub (open source) code > forge and would love to

Re: Questionable Package Present in Debian: fortune-mod

2023-08-21 Thread Russ Allbery
Jeremy Stanley writes: > Removing a package from the archive purely on the grounds that it > contains objectionable text, if such is the reason for not distributing > it, is making a value judgement of that text. The concerns that have > been raised so far for objecting to the content of the pack

POT creation date should match last modification of the source (Re: Potential MBF: packages failing to build twice in a row)

2023-08-21 Thread Holger Levsen
On Wed, Aug 16, 2023 at 11:42:32AM +0800, Paul Wise wrote: > On Tue, 2023-08-15 at 09:21 -0400, Boyuan Yang wrote: > > --- ibus-array-0.2.2.orig/po/zh_TW.po > > +++ ibus-array-0.2.2/po/zh_TW.po > > @@ -6,7 +6,7 @@ msgid "" > >  msgstr "" > >  "Project-Id-Version: ibus-array 0.2.2\n" > >  "Report-Ms

Re: Questionable Package Present in Debian: fortune-mod

2023-08-21 Thread Holger Levsen
On Mon, Aug 21, 2023 at 06:06:34PM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > On Sat, Aug 19, 2023 at 02:28:22PM -0400, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: > https://www.debian.org/code_of_conduct.en starts off with: > > "The Debian Project, the producers of the Debian system, have adopted a > code of conduct for par

Re: Questionable Package Present in Debian: fortune-mod

2023-08-21 Thread Jeremy Stanley
On 2023-08-21 11:43:04 -0700 (-0700), Steve Langasek wrote: [...] > Don't you think it's a bit hyperbolic to equate "not distributing > a text in our archive" to "book burning"? Removing a package from the archive purely on the grounds that it contains objectionable text, if such is the reason for

Re: Questionable Package Present in Debian: fortune-mod

2023-08-21 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Mon, Aug 21, 2023 at 05:32:22PM +, Jeremy Stanley wrote: > On 2023-08-21 20:16:22 +0300 (+0300), Dmitry Baryshkov wrote: > [...] > > According to Debian's CoC we use non-offensive ways to communicate > > within the project, so that everybody is welcome to speak and > > contribute. But we sho

Re: Questionable Package Present in Debian: fortune-mod

2023-08-21 Thread Steve Langasek
On Mon, Aug 21, 2023 at 05:32:22PM +, Jeremy Stanley wrote: > On 2023-08-21 20:16:22 +0300 (+0300), Dmitry Baryshkov wrote: > [...] > > According to Debian's CoC we use non-offensive ways to communicate > > within the project, so that everybody is welcome to speak and > > contribute. But we sho

Re: [RFC] Extending project standards to services linked through Vcs-*

2023-08-21 Thread Russ Allbery
Dominik George writes: > Hi, >> have you considered dgit? > no, as that's something entirely different. dgit does not > manage source packages in Git, it provides a Git frontend > to source packages not managed in Git. No, this is not really true. There's a lot of misunderstanding about dgit.

Re: [RFC] Extending project standards to services linked through Vcs-*

2023-08-21 Thread Russ Allbery
Dominik George writes: > On Mon, Aug 21, 2023 at 09:48:26AM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: >> This implies that Salsa is happy to create accounts for people under >> the age of 13, since the implicit statement here is that Debian's own >> Git hosting infrastructure is less excluding than GitHub. >>

Re: Questionable Package Present in Debian: fortune-mod

2023-08-21 Thread Jeremy Stanley
On 2023-08-21 20:16:22 +0300 (+0300), Dmitry Baryshkov wrote: [...] > According to Debian's CoC we use non-offensive ways to communicate > within the project, so that everybody is welcome to speak and > contribute. But we should not censor software. If there is a > misogynistic comment in GNU HURD

Re: [RFC] Extending project standards to services linked through Vcs-*

2023-08-21 Thread Dominik George
Hi, > have you considered dgit? no, as that's something entirely different. dgit does not manage source packages in Git, it provides a Git frontend to source packages not managed in Git. -nik signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: [RFC] Extending project standards to services linked through Vcs-*

2023-08-21 Thread Dominik George
Hi, On Mon, Aug 21, 2023 at 09:48:26AM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > Dominik George writes: > > > For the GitHub case, the problematic terms would be that in order to > > register for a GitHub account, users must be at least 13 or 16 years old > > (depending on the jurisdiction) ant must not live

Re: Questionable Package Present in Debian: fortune-mod

2023-08-21 Thread Dmitry Baryshkov
On Sat, 19 Aug 2023 at 00:52, Dominik George wrote: > > > So, let's at least be consistent. > > Totally agree with that. > > Debian is not a collection of harmful content, it is an operating system. > > But, unfortunately, there are too many people in the project who think, in > the name of "free

Re: Questionable Package Present in Debian: fortune-mod

2023-08-21 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
Hi Wouter, I think that you and I are actually in agreement. On Mon, Aug 21, 2023 at 06:06:34PM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > On Sat, Aug 19, 2023 at 02:28:22PM -0400, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: > > On Sat, Aug 19, 2023 at 07:11:11PM +0200, Dominik George wrote: > > > >The mission you have chose

Re: [RFC] Extending project standards to services linked through Vcs-*

2023-08-21 Thread Russ Allbery
Dominik George writes: > For the GitHub case, the problematic terms would be that in order to > register for a GitHub account, users must be at least 13 or 16 years old > (depending on the jurisdiction) ant must not live in a country under US > embargoes. This implies that Salsa is happy to crea

Re: [RFC] Extending project standards to services linked through Vcs-*

2023-08-21 Thread Holger Levsen
hi Nik, On Mon, Aug 21, 2023 at 05:00:04PM +0200, Dominik George wrote: > Generally, not having a clear policy on that VCS package maintenance means > is, in my opinion, one of the major obstacles when trying to contribute > to Debian. [...] have you considered dgit? -- cheers, Holger

Re: [RFC] Extending project standards to services linked through Vcs-*

2023-08-21 Thread Jeremy Stanley
On 2023-08-21 17:00:04 +0200 (+0200), Dominik George wrote: [...] > A concrete implementation for GitHub repositories would be to > disable issues and PRs [...] As an aside, unless something has changed very recently, GH does not give you a way to disable PRs (issues yes but not PRs). If that has

Re: Questionable Package Present in Debian: fortune-mod

2023-08-21 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Sat, Aug 19, 2023 at 02:28:22PM -0400, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: > On Sat, Aug 19, 2023 at 07:11:11PM +0200, Dominik George wrote: > > >The mission you have chosen for yourself, then, is to identify all those > > >things in the Debian distribution that are not constitutive of an > > >operating s

Bug#1050188: ITP: zpaqfranz -- Swiss army knife for backup and disaster recovery

2023-08-21 Thread Franco Corbelli
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Franco Corbelli X-Debbugs-Cc: debian-devel@lists.debian.org, fra...@francocorbelli.com * Package name: zpaqfranz Version : 58.9.c Upstream Author : Franco Corbelli * URL : https://github.com/fcorbelli/zpaqfranz * License

[RFC] Extending project standards to services linked through Vcs-*

2023-08-21 Thread Dominik George
Heisann, [ for reference, the general discussion was held in 2019 already, in a slightly ] [ too big context [3]. ] as many of you will know, I am heavily involved in tearing down obstacles in the way of contributing to free and open sour

Bug#1050170: ITP: libconcurrentunit-java -- simple toolkit for testing multi-threaded Java code

2023-08-21 Thread Pierre Gruet
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Debian Java Maintainers X-Debbugs-Cc: debian-devel@lists.debian.org * Package name: libconcurrentunit-java Version : 0.4.6 Upstream Contact: Jonathan Halterman * URL : https://github.com/jhalterman/concurrentunit * License