Back to the topic of changed binary named (Was: Lottery NEW queue (Re: Are libraries with bumped SONAME subject of inspection of ftpmaster or not))

2022-01-23 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi Paul and others, its surely an interesting topic how to avoid binary name changes and its also interesting to discuss ABI changes and workarounds. However, my point was that I want to know what policy ftpmaster applies to new binary names and to focus on this topic. I really want to know that

Re: The future of src:ntp

2022-01-23 Thread Guillem Jover
On Sun, 2022-01-23 at 15:12:49 -0600, Richard Laager wrote: > On 1/19/22 15:04, Bernhard Schmidt wrote: > > On 19.01.22 20:34, Richard Laager wrote: > > > 2. I create transitional binary packages in src:ntpsec: > I got to thinking about this more. This won't work, because src:ntp is > 1:4.2.8p15+d

Re: Lottery NEW queue (Re: Are libraries with bumped SONAME subject of inspection of ftpmaster or not

2022-01-23 Thread Paul Wise
On Sun, 2022-01-23 at 17:43 -0500, Theodore Y. Ts'o wrote: > That only works if there are no other packages depending on those > shared libraries which are coming from other source packages. I don't think that is true, I believe you can put multiple things in the depends section of an shlibs file

Re: Lottery NEW queue (Re: Are libraries with bumped SONAME subject of inspection of ftpmaster or not

2022-01-23 Thread Theodore Y. Ts'o
On Sat, Jan 22, 2022 at 08:58:37AM +0800, Paul Wise wrote: > > The other thing that's perhaps considering here is that unfortunately, > > there are some upstreams that are extremely irresponsible with library > > ABI backwards compatibility, where they bump the SONAME essentially at > > every relea

Re: The future of src:ntp

2022-01-23 Thread Paride Legovini
Richard Laager wrote on 23/01/2022: > On 1/19/22 15:04, Bernhard Schmidt wrote: >> On 19.01.22 20:34, Richard Laager wrote: >>> 2. I create transitional binary packages in src:ntpsec: > > I got to thinking about this more. This won't work, because src:ntp is > 1:4.2.8p15+dfsg-1 and src:ntpsec is

Re: The future of src:ntp

2022-01-23 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Jan 23, Richard Laager wrote: > It might be technically possible to build a binary package with different > versioning, but even if it is: 1) I don't know how, and 2) I'm not sure > whether that's a good idea, especially compared to the alternatives. I did it long ago, I think for kmod taking

Re: using epoch to repair versioning of byacc package

2022-01-23 Thread Thomas Dickey
> Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2022 14:55:39 -0600 > From: Richard Laager > To: debian-devel@lists.debian.org > Subject: Re: using epoch to repair versioning of byacc package > > On 1/23/22 10:04, Thomas Dickey wrote: > > In #1003769, Andreas Metzler wrote: > > > 1. The upload introduces an epoch because th

Re: The future of src:ntp

2022-01-23 Thread Simon McVittie
On Sun, 23 Jan 2022 at 15:12:49 -0600, Richard Laager wrote: > > > 2. I create transitional binary packages in src:ntpsec: > > I got to thinking about this more. This won't work, because src:ntp is > 1:4.2.8p15+dfsg-1 and src:ntpsec is 1.2.1+dfsg1-2. I would need an epoch (of > 2, since ntp alread

Re: The future of src:ntp

2022-01-23 Thread Richard Laager
On 1/19/22 15:04, Bernhard Schmidt wrote: On 19.01.22 20:34, Richard Laager wrote: 2. I create transitional binary packages in src:ntpsec: I got to thinking about this more. This won't work, because src:ntp is 1:4.2.8p15+dfsg-1 and src:ntpsec is 1.2.1+dfsg1-2. I would need an epoch (of 2, si

Re: using epoch to repair versioning of byacc package

2022-01-23 Thread Richard Laager
On 1/23/22 10:04, Thomas Dickey wrote: In #1003769, Andreas Metzler wrote: 1. The upload introduces an epoch because the upstream version went from mmdd to 2.0.mmdd. Given that the new version scheme seems to have found acceptance in e.g. Fedora /I/ do not see a better way. Could you ask

Re: Lottery NEW queue (Re: Are libraries with bumped SONAME subject of inspection of ftpmaster or not

2022-01-23 Thread Stephan Lachnit
On Fri, Jan 21, 2022 at 7:04 PM Paul Gevers wrote: > > It's not only the copyright that the ftp-master are responsible for. New > binaries fill a place in the Debian namespace and they *are* the keepers > of that. One could say that for new binaries packages whose src is already in Debian, the ft

Re: using epoch to repair versioning of byacc package

2022-01-23 Thread Thomas Dickey
In #1003769, Andreas Metzler wrote: > 1. The upload introduces an epoch because the upstream version went from > mmdd to 2.0.mmdd. Given that the new version scheme seems to > have found acceptance in e.g. Fedora /I/ do not see a better way. Could > you ask about the epoch on debian-devel (

Bug#1004245: ITP: ocsipersist -- Persistent key/value storage for Ocsigen using multiple backends

2022-01-23 Thread Stéphane Glondu
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Stéphane Glondu X-Debbugs-Cc: debian-devel@lists.debian.org, debian-ocaml-ma...@lists.debian.org * Package name: ocsipersist Version : 1.0.5 Upstream Author : Vincent Balat * URL : https://ocsigen.org/ocsipersist * License

Another big update of /etc/mime.types

2022-01-23 Thread Charles Plessy
Hello everybody, Today I uploaded another big update of /etc/mime.types with the `media-types` package version 5.0.0. I expect it is the last one of that scale as now the file is fully in sync with the registered types at the IANA. I might do more removals of types in the future, but before doin