Re: Need help with Multi-Arch in systemd

2021-07-14 Thread Helmut Grohne
Hi Michael, On Thu, Jul 15, 2021 at 12:22:59AM +0200, Michael Biebl wrote: > You are right. Thinking more about this, splitting out libsystemd-shared as > a Multi-Arch: same library will not help with > SystemCallArchitectures=native, which is used by the services in > systemd-{container,journal-r

Re: merged /usr considered harmful

2021-07-14 Thread Thorsten Glaser
Guillem Jover dixit: >I've been meaning to send a note about this for some time now, but >as I feel it keeps getting ignored, it always seems a bit pointless. Yeah, I saw this popping up multiple times in that bugreport ☹ >But in any case, given that merged-usr-via-aliased-dirs is not really >su

Re: Need help with Multi-Arch in systemd

2021-07-14 Thread Michael Biebl
Am 09.07.21 um 14:24 schrieb Helmut Grohne: Now let's do something stupid. Rename systemd to systemd-core (taking all files with it, please refrain from discussing the name unless you seriously consider doing this). Mark it Multi-Arch: allowed. Add a new, empty binary package systemd. It is Multi

Re: Need help with Multi-Arch in systemd

2021-07-14 Thread Guillem Jover
On Wed, 2021-07-14 at 11:59:11 +0100, Simon McVittie wrote: > On Thu, 08 Jul 2021 at 23:03:48 +0200, Michael Biebl wrote: > > [a separate libsystemd-shared-249 .deb] would also mean, that on every > > new upstream release, systemd would have to go through NEW > > It seems like we're rejecting a go

Re: What are desired semantics for /etc/shells?

2021-07-14 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi! On Tue, 2021-06-15 at 13:31:15 +0200, Felix C. Stegerman wrote: > FYI I just noticed another inconsistency: on my merged /usr systems > (installed as such, not converted later w/ usrmerge), /etc/shells > contains both /bin/ and /usr/bin/ paths for some shells, but not all > (e.g. no /usr/bin/s

Re: merged /usr considered harmful (was Re: Bits from the Technical Committee)

2021-07-14 Thread Guillem Jover
On Wed, 2021-07-14 at 19:54:56 +, Thorsten Glaser wrote: > Sean Whitton dixit: > >* #978636 move to merged-usr-only? > > > > We were asked to decide whether or not Debian 'bookworm' should > > continue to support systems which are not using the merged-usr > > filesystem layout. We decided t

Bug#991121: ITP: golang-github-google-cel-spec -- go library implementing Common Expression Language

2021-07-14 Thread Peymaneh Nejad
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Peymaneh Nejad * Package name: golang-github-google-cel-spec Version : 0.5.1-1 Upstream Author : Google * URL : https://github.com/google/cel-spec * License : Apache-2.0 Programming Lang: Go Description : go libra

merged /usr considered harmful (was Re: Bits from the Technical Committee)

2021-07-14 Thread Thorsten Glaser
Sean Whitton dixit: >* #978636 move to merged-usr-only? > > We were asked to decide whether or not Debian 'bookworm' should > continue to support systems which are not using the merged-usr > filesystem layout. We decided that support should not continue beyond > Debian 'bullseye'. What? WHAT

Re: XFCE4 notes

2021-07-14 Thread Michael Biebl
Am 14.07.21 um 19:54 schrieb Paul Sutton: Hi All Am I right in thinking that xfce4-notes has been removed?  I have installed xfce4-goodies and it isn't installed. From unstable/testing that is correct. See https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/xfce4-notes-plugin specifically https://tracker.debian.

XFCE4 notes

2021-07-14 Thread Paul Sutton
Hi All Am I right in thinking that xfce4-notes has been removed? I have installed xfce4-goodies and it isn't installed. apt search xfce4-notes Sorting... Done Full Text Search... Done xfce4-goodies/testing,now 4.14.0 amd64 [installed] enhancements for the Xfce4 Desktop Environment Appears

Re: Debian 11

2021-07-14 Thread Paul Sutton
On 14/07/2021 11:25, Pierre-Elliott Bécue wrote: Hi Paul, Paul Sutton writes: Hi I installed Debian 11 on my new hard disk yesterday in preparation for the release, everything went very smoothly, I did manage to skip selecting a mirror (error on my part) but adding that manually worked fine

Re: automatic NEW processing [was Re: Need help with Multi-Arch in systemd]

2021-07-14 Thread Philipp Kern
On 14.07.21 13:47, Michael Biebl wrote: Am 14.07.21 um 12:59 schrieb Simon McVittie: Would it be feasible for dak to have a list of binary package name regexes mapped to a source package and a section/priority, and auto-accept packages from the given source package that match the regex, assign

Bug#991112: ITP: golang-github-stoewer-go-strcase -- go library for converting between naming formats

2021-07-14 Thread Peymaneh Nejad
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Peymaneh Nejad * Package name: golang-github-stoewer-go-strcase Version : 1.2.0-1 Upstream Author : A. Stoewer * URL : https://github.com/stoewer/go-strcase * License : Expat Programming Lang: Go Description : go

Bug#991109: ITP: golang-github-newrelic-go-agent -- library for monitoring go applications

2021-07-14 Thread Peymaneh Nejad
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Peymaneh Nejad * Package name: golang-github-newrelic-go-agent Version : 3.13.0-1 Upstream Author : New Relic * URL : https://github.com/newrelic/go-agent * License : Apache-2.0 Programming Lang: Go Description :

Re: Need help with Multi-Arch in systemd

2021-07-14 Thread Bastian Blank
On Wed, Jul 14, 2021 at 11:59:11AM +0100, Simon McVittie wrote: > It seems like this would also be good for src:linux, where ABI breaks > are often tied to security fixes that should enter the archive ASAP. As security updates are hand approved, accepting by NEW does not help that much. Bastian

Re: Need help with Multi-Arch in systemd

2021-07-14 Thread Bastian Blank
On Thu, Jul 08, 2021 at 11:03:48PM +0200, Michael Biebl wrote: > Asking on #debian-systemd, Marco d'Itri suggested, that we move > libsystemd-shared into a separate binary package. This would only help, if > we moved libsystemd-shared into a Multi-Arch location (which means, we'd > have to carry a

Re: Need help with Multi-Arch in systemd

2021-07-14 Thread Timo Röhling
* Simon McVittie [2021-07-14 11:59]: Would it be feasible for dak to have a list of binary package name regexes mapped to a source package and a section/priority, and auto-accept packages from the given source package that match the regex, assigning the given section/priority, without manual act

Re: automatic NEW processing [was Re: Need help with Multi-Arch in systemd]

2021-07-14 Thread Michael Biebl
Am 14.07.21 um 13:47 schrieb Michael Biebl: Am 14.07.21 um 12:59 schrieb Simon McVittie: Would it be feasible for dak to have a list of binary package name regexes mapped to a source package and a section/priority, and auto-accept packages from the given source package that match the regex, as

automatic NEW processing [was Re: Need help with Multi-Arch in systemd]

2021-07-14 Thread Michael Biebl
Am 14.07.21 um 12:59 schrieb Simon McVittie: Would it be feasible for dak to have a list of binary package name regexes mapped to a source package and a section/priority, and auto-accept packages from the given source package that match the regex, assigning the given section/priority, without man

Re: Need help with Multi-Arch in systemd

2021-07-14 Thread Simon McVittie
On Thu, 08 Jul 2021 at 23:03:48 +0200, Michael Biebl wrote: > [a separate libsystemd-shared-249 .deb] would also mean, that on every > new upstream release, systemd would have to go through NEW It seems like we're rejecting a good technical solution because social/organisational factors block it (

Re: Debian 11

2021-07-14 Thread Pierre-Elliott Bécue
Hi Paul, Paul Sutton writes: > Hi > > I installed Debian 11 on my new hard disk yesterday in preparation for > the release, everything went very smoothly, I did manage to skip > selecting a mirror (error on my part) but adding that manually worked > fine after asking for help on IRC. Also good