On 2021-01-24 01:49:28 +0500 (+0500), Andrey Rahmatullin wrote:
[...]
> As is often mentioned, researching is not very helpful when you
> want WiFi. And people who are fine with severely crippling their
> computers for FSF reasons should probably be some non-default
> niche with separate considerat
On 23/01/2021 20:42, Andrey Rahmatullin wrote:
On Sat, Jan 23, 2021 at 03:39:21PM +0200, Jonathan Carter wrote:
But the sentiment above and in other similar messages were that the
completely free images are broken for many users that might need some
non-free firmware. This is simply not true.
On Sat, Jan 23, 2021 at 02:32:42PM +, Jeremy Stanley wrote:
> I'll join the less-vocal crowd in disagreeing that the fully free
> image is especially defective (any more so than other software), and
> I feel like painting it that way does harm to your argument. Yes
> things could be better, on
On Sat, Jan 23, 2021 at 03:39:21PM +0200, Jonathan Carter wrote:
> But the sentiment above and in other similar messages were that the
> completely free images are broken for many users that might need some
> non-free firmware. This is simply not true.
The completely free images are broken for most
On Sat, Jan 23, 2021 at 04:30:00PM +0100, Pierre-Elliott Bécue wrote:
> Le samedi 23 janvier 2021 à 16:23:47+0100, Marco d'Itri a écrit :
> > On Jan 23, Pierre-Elliott Bécue wrote:
> >
> > > While I appreciate your point, and agree with the rationale behind it
> > > (having something that works fo
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Le samedi 23 janvier 2021 à 16:23:47+0100, Marco d'Itri a écrit :
> On Jan 23, Pierre-Elliott Bécue wrote:
>
> > While I appreciate your point, and agree with the rationale behind it
> > (having something that works for very recent hardware would be good), I
> This is not about "very recent" hardw
On Jan 23, Vincent Bernat wrote:
> This is an anecdotical evidence. To my knowledge, it's not possible to
> make a wireless card work without a proprietary firmware. As laptops are
> getting thinner, the Ethernet port is getting away and dongles to get
> port the RJ45 port are not bundled anymore
On Jan 23, Pierre-Elliott Bécue wrote:
> While I appreciate your point, and agree with the rationale behind it
> (having something that works for very recent hardware would be good), I
This is not about "very recent" hardware, it is really about "most
hardware".
> personally find the way you ex
Le lundi 18 janvier 2021 à 22:56:34+0100, Marco d'Itri a écrit :
> On Jan 18, Marc Haber wrote:
>
> > Imagine the catastrophal message we're sending by "here is our
> > official image, but that one is unlikely to work on your laptop,
> > better use this here."
> Yes, it would be bad marketing.
>
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❦ 23 janvier 2021 15:39 +02, Jonathan Carter:
> But the sentiment above and in other similar messages were that the
> completely free images are broken for many users that might need some
> non-free firmware. This is simply not true. I've only ever installed
> using the free images, and then afte
On 2021-01-23 11:14:52 +0100 (+0100), Emanuele Rocca wrote:
> On 22/01 08:30, Jeremy Stanley wrote:
> > Taking away the choice for users who care about software freedom
> > to opt out of non-free content in the installer and find
> > alternative options would be a loss of freedom, in service of
> >
On Sat, Jan 23, 2021 at 10:43:40AM +, Holger Levsen wrote:
> On Sat, Jan 23, 2021 at 11:14:52AM +0100, Emanuele Rocca wrote:
> > Having the option to opt-out firmware during the installation procedure
> > seems reasonable to me, and I don't think anyone was suggesting
> > otherwise.
> >
> > Th
On 2021/01/23 12:43, Holger Levsen wrote:
> On Sat, Jan 23, 2021 at 11:14:52AM +0100, Emanuele Rocca wrote:
>> Having the option to opt-out firmware during the installation procedure
>> seems reasonable to me, and I don't think anyone was suggesting
>> otherwise.
>>
>> The situation we are in today
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On Sat, Jan 16, 2021 at 07:56:30PM +0100, Philipp Kern wrote:
> On 15.01.21 13:42, Ansgar wrote:
> > On Tue, 2021-01-12 at 19:30 +0100, Geert Stappers wrote:
> >> Ah, yes I also wonder how much the world will improve
> >> if non-free would be split in non-free and non-free-firmware.
> >> Currently
Am Samstag, 23. Januar 2021 schrieb Emanuele Rocca:
> On 22/01 08:30, Jeremy Stanley wrote:
> > Taking away the choice for users who care about software freedom to
> > opt out of non-free content in the installer and find alternative
> > options would be a loss of freedom, in service of convenien
On Sat, Jan 23, 2021 at 11:14:52AM +0100, Emanuele Rocca wrote:
> Having the option to opt-out firmware during the installation procedure
> seems reasonable to me, and I don't think anyone was suggesting
> otherwise.
>
> The situation we are in today is very different though: we build a
> Defectiv
On 22/01 08:30, Jeremy Stanley wrote:
> Taking away the choice for users who care about software freedom to
> opt out of non-free content in the installer and find alternative
> options would be a loss of freedom, in service of convenience for
> users who aren't as invested in trying to minimize th
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