Re: Is running dpkg-buildpackage manually from the command line forbidden?

2020-01-16 Thread Paul Wise
On Thu, Jan 16, 2020 at 7:18 PM Ondřej Surý wrote: > while your effort is valiant, I see a little value in it as there’s no real > world use case. While your arguments are valid, you are imposing additional > work on generally already overloaded maintainers with unclear goal and > purpose. Per

Re: Is distro-tracker accessible by some sort of API?

2020-01-16 Thread Paul Wise
On Thu, Jan 16, 2020 at 7:06 PM Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: > I've read the distro-tracker documentation and it seems like interaction > is by visiting with a web browser or via email. Is there an official or > even unofficial API for access to data in distro-tracker? There are a few APIs defined

Re: https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/dballe

2020-01-16 Thread Paul Wise
On Mon, Jan 13, 2020 at 4:11 PM Wouter Verhelst wrote: > You'll make it unnecessarily harder to bootstrap environments that need > themselves to build if you do that. The idea here is that bootstrap builds are special and so they should be very explicit rather than happen as a side effect of regu

Work-needing packages report for Jan 17, 2020

2020-01-16 Thread wnpp
The following is a listing of packages for which help has been requested through the WNPP (Work-Needing and Prospective Packages) system in the last week. Total number of orphaned packages: 1245 (new: 13) Total number of packages offered up for adoption: 240 (new: 1) Total number of packages reque

Re: Is running dpkg-buildpackage manually from the command line forbidden?

2020-01-16 Thread Sam Hartman
> "Daniel" == Daniel Schepler writes: Daniel> (Incidentally, another offshoot was creating local patches to sbuild Daniel> which add an operation mode using systemd-nspawn --ephemeral to start Daniel> a container (along with the base being a BTRFS subvolume to speed up Daniel

Re: Is running dpkg-buildpackage manually from the command line forbidden?

2020-01-16 Thread Daniel Schepler
On Thu, Jan 16, 2020 at 11:18 AM Ondřej Surý wrote: > while your effort is valiant, I see a little value in it as there’s no real > world use case. While your arguments are valid, you are imposing additional > work on generally already overloaded maintainers with unclear goal and > purpose. > >

Re: Is running dpkg-buildpackage manually from the command line forbidden?

2020-01-16 Thread Ondřej Surý
Daniel, while your effort is valiant, I see a little value in it as there’s no real world use case. While your arguments are valid, you are imposing additional work on generally already overloaded maintainers with unclear goal and purpose. Perhaps your energy and enthusiasm (which I appreciate)

Is distro-tracker accessible by some sort of API?

2020-01-16 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
I've read the distro-tracker documentation and it seems like interaction is by visiting with a web browser or via email. Is there an official or even unofficial API for access to data in distro-tracker? Regards, -Roberto -- Roberto C. Sánchez

Re: Is running dpkg-buildpackage manually from the command line forbidden?

2020-01-16 Thread Simon McVittie
On Thu, 16 Jan 2020 at 08:50:25 -0800, Daniel Schepler wrote: > I've been running a manual test bootstrap of Debian (starting with > cross-compiled packages amd64 -> i386 up to the point I was able to > install debhelper), and posting a few bugs I've found along the way. > These are where I found t

Re: Is running dpkg-buildpackage manually from the command line forbidden?

2020-01-16 Thread Sam Hartman
> "Daniel" == Daniel Schepler writes: Daniel> However, I've been getting push back on some of these, with Daniel> maintainers of the opinion that it isn't actually a bug. So, I Daniel> thought I'd consult here to get more opinions on whether these are Daniel> true bugs, or wh

Re: Is running dpkg-buildpackage manually from the command line forbidden?

2020-01-16 Thread Ansgar
On Thu, 2020-01-16 at 08:50 -0800, Daniel Schepler wrote: > These are where I found that having extra packages installed during > the dpkg-buildpackage run either failed or resulted in broken > packages. (Some examples of the type of thing I mean: #948522, > #887902.) If you build outside a contr

Re: Deprecating regex/fnmatch fallback for package arguments, and 1.9.6 highlights

2020-01-16 Thread Julian Andres Klode
On Thu, Jan 16, 2020 at 05:46:56PM +0100, Enrico Zini wrote: > On Thu, Jan 16, 2020 at 01:15:29PM +, Paul Wise wrote: > > > > No, did I give that impression? Sorry, search is going to stay > > > with regex on (I think it's) package names and descriptions. > > > > Speaking of search, are the a

Is running dpkg-buildpackage manually from the command line forbidden?

2020-01-16 Thread Daniel Schepler
I've been running a manual test bootstrap of Debian (starting with cross-compiled packages amd64 -> i386 up to the point I was able to install debhelper), and posting a few bugs I've found along the way. These are where I found that having extra packages installed during the dpkg-buildpackage run e

Re: Deprecating regex/fnmatch fallback for package arguments, and 1.9.6 highlights

2020-01-16 Thread Enrico Zini
On Thu, Jan 16, 2020 at 01:15:29PM +, Paul Wise wrote: > > No, did I give that impression? Sorry, search is going to stay > > with regex on (I think it's) package names and descriptions. > > Speaking of search, are the apt maintainers aware of apt-xapian-index > and do you have any thoughts o

Re: Deprecating regex/fnmatch fallback for package arguments, and 1.9.6 highlights

2020-01-16 Thread Paul Wise
On Thu, Jan 16, 2020 at 12:57 PM Julian Andres Klode wrote: > No, did I give that impression? Sorry, search is going to stay > with regex on (I think it's) package names and descriptions. Speaking of search, are the apt maintainers aware of apt-xapian-index and do you have any thoughts on it? --

Re: Deprecating regex/fnmatch fallback for package arguments, and 1.9.6 highlights

2020-01-16 Thread Julian Andres Klode
On Thu, Jan 16, 2020 at 07:01:25AM -0500, Sam Hartman wrote: > Does it really make sense to deprecate regexps for apt-cache search? > In that case, I think you're very unlikely to want a literal match. No, did I give that impression? Sorry, search is going to stay with regex on (I think it's) pack

Re: Deprecating regex/fnmatch fallback for package arguments, and 1.9.6 highlights

2020-01-16 Thread Sam Hartman
Does it really make sense to deprecate regexps for apt-cache search? In that case, I think you're very unlikely to want a literal match.

Re: Deprecating regex/fnmatch fallback for package arguments, and 1.9.6 highlights

2020-01-16 Thread Julian Andres Klode
On Wed, Jan 15, 2020 at 11:11:38PM +0100, Julian Andres Klode wrote: > Starting with APT 2.0 (1.9.6 in experimental), the apt(8) binary will > not try to interpret package names passed on the command-line as regular > expressions or fnmatch() style patterns. Future versions of apt-get(8) > and apt