Re: duplicate popularity-contest ID

2019-08-06 Thread Paul Wise
On Tue, Aug 6, 2019 at 7:34 PM Bill Allombert wrote: > A related issue is that the submission time is randomized, but if > 2600 systems have identical /etc/cron.d/popularity-contest files, they > will report at the same time, causing network spikes. BTW, a systemd service timer has native randomi

Re: do packages depend on lexical order or {daily,weekly,monthly} cron jobs?

2019-08-06 Thread Bill Allombert
On Tue, Aug 06, 2019 at 05:19:14PM +0200, Philipp Kern wrote: > On 2019-08-06 13:43, Bill Allombert wrote: > > On Mon, Aug 05, 2019 at 10:29:41PM +0200, Philipp Kern wrote: > > > And finally, the load spikes: Upthread it was mentioned that > > > RandomizedDelaySec exists. Generally this should be s

Re: Changing quote signs in GPL allowed? [Was: Bug#929752: installation-guide: left quotes in gpl.xml are not correctly rendered in pdf ]

2019-08-06 Thread Kyle Edwards
On Tue, 2019-08-06 at 21:05 +0200, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > Quoting Holger Wansing (2019-08-06 20:30:56) > > > > [Adding debian-devel for a bigger audience] > > > > > > Hi, > > > > Holger Wansing wrote: > > > > > > Control: retitle -1 Replace grave accents/single quotes by > > > in gpl.xml

Re: Bug#929752: Changing quote signs in GPL allowed? [Was: Bug#929752: installation-guide: left quotes in gpl.xml are not correctly rendered in pdf ]

2019-08-06 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Tue, Aug 06, 2019 at 08:30:56PM +0200, Holger Wansing wrote: > I was about to commit these changes, however it came to my mind if such > changes to the GPL are allowed? > > At least the English variant of the GPL is 'official' and is not to be > changed, so what about changing the quoting signs

Re: Changing quote signs in GPL allowed? [Was: Bug#929752: installation-guide: left quotes in gpl.xml are not correctly rendered in pdf ]

2019-08-06 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting Holger Wansing (2019-08-06 20:30:56) > [Adding debian-devel for a bigger audience] > > > Hi, > > Holger Wansing wrote: > > Control: retitle -1 Replace grave accents/single quotes by > > in gpl.xml > > > > Samuel Thibault wrote: > > > Hello, > > > > > > Changwoo Ryu, le jeu. 30 mai

Re: B-D on src package? (was: Re: Challenge from Julia's non-standard vendored openblas"64_"

2019-08-06 Thread Stephen Kitt
Hi josch, On Tue, 06 Aug 2019 20:11:07 +0200, Johannes Schauer wrote: > Quoting Stephen Kitt (2019-08-06 18:43:24) > > Could we avoid (some of) this by treating “source” as a new architecture? > > There would be a mostly do-nothing buildd which would repack the source > > package as a binary pack

Changing quote signs in GPL allowed? [Was: Bug#929752: installation-guide: left quotes in gpl.xml are not correctly rendered in pdf ]

2019-08-06 Thread Holger Wansing
[Adding debian-devel for a bigger audience] Hi, Holger Wansing wrote: > Control: retitle -1 Replace grave accents/single quotes by in > gpl.xml > > Samuel Thibault wrote: > > Hello, > > > > Changwoo Ryu, le jeu. 30 mai 2019 22:22:05 +0900, a ecrit: > > > In en/appendix/gpl.xml, ordinary do

Bug#934075: ITP: ruby-apollo-upload-server -- apollo-upload-server implementation for Ruby on Rails as middleware

2019-08-06 Thread Sruthi Chandran
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Sruthi Chandran X-Debbugs-CC: debian-devel@lists.debian.org * Package name: ruby-apollo-upload-server Version : 1.0.0 Upstream Author : Artur Plysyuk * URL : https://github.com/jetruby/apollo_upload_server-ruby * License

Re: B-D on src package? (was: Re: Challenge from Julia's non-standard vendored openblas"64_"

2019-08-06 Thread Johannes Schauer
Hi, Quoting Stephen Kitt (2019-08-06 18:43:24) > > recently there was some discussion about this in #debian-apt. I don't have > > the logs of that discussion so others might want to expand on what I > > remember from back then. In no particular order plus my own thoughts. > > > > apt developers a

Re: duplicate popularity-contest ID

2019-08-06 Thread Sam Hartman
> "Bill" == Bill Allombert writes: Bill> This is potentially an excellent idea! Bill> Does not /etc/machine-id suffer of exactly the same issue as Bill> /etc/popularity-contest.conf ? A lot more procedures for cloning images know that they need to generate new /etc/machine-ids.

Re: do packages depend on lexical order or {daily,weekly,monthly} cron jobs?

2019-08-06 Thread Sam Hartman
> "Ian" == Ian Jackson writes: I think this is the big question. Because of modern thinking about power optimization, if I were designing this interface today I'd design it to be concurrent. In particular, you want to use as much concurrency as you can to maximize utilization of CPU and IO

Bug#934071: ITP: ruby-gitlab-labkit -- Instrumentation for GitLab

2019-08-06 Thread Sruthi Chandran
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Sruthi Chandran X-Debbugs-CC: debian-devel@lists.debian.org * Package name: ruby-gitlab-labkit Version : 0.4.2 Upstream Author : GitLab B.V. * URL : https://gitlab.com/gitlab-org/labkit-ruby * License : Expat Descriptio

Re: duplicate popularity-contest ID

2019-08-06 Thread Bill Allombert
On Tue, Aug 06, 2019 at 12:08:13AM +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote: > On Aug 05, Bill Allombert wrote: > > > Each Debian popularity-contest submitter is supposed to have > > a different random 128bit popcon ID. > > However, the popularity-constest server > > receives a lot o

Re: unsigned repositories

2019-08-06 Thread Simon McVittie
On Mon, 05 Aug 2019 at 11:25:53 +0100, Simon McVittie wrote: > On Mon, 05 Aug 2019 at 10:09:09 +0200, David Kalnischkies wrote: > > The other thing is repositories without a Release file, which seems to > > be something used (legally) by the same class of repositories only, too. > > [in OBS] anyth

Re: B-D on src package? (was: Re: Challenge from Julia's non-standard vendored openblas"64_"

2019-08-06 Thread Stephen Kitt
On Sun, 28 Jul 2019 16:33:21 +0200, Johannes Schauer wrote: > Quoting Mo Zhou (2019-07-28 16:03:43) > > On 2019-07-28 13:13, Ian Jackson wrote: > > > This is maybe not directly helpful to you right now, but: > > > > > > If we could build-depend on source packages, you could combine these > > >

Re: duplicate popularity-contest ID

2019-08-06 Thread Jeremy Stanley
On 2019-08-06 08:33:36 -0700 (-0700), Russ Allbery wrote: [...] > Hm. I think that's still in the range of what could be explained > by VM cloning, although the 2600 with the same ID is surprising. [...] A CI system which is using cloned virtual machines could easily do that. I help operate a CI

Re: do packages depend on lexical order or {daily,weekly,monthly} cron jobs?

2019-08-06 Thread Simon McVittie
On Tue, 06 Aug 2019 at 16:58:31 +0100, Ian Jackson wrote: > The Debian systemd maintainers are of course free to enable > parallelism for systemd users; Trying to make this point more clearly because you seem to be confusing systemd with systemd-cron: Whether to run cron jobs in lexical order or

Re: do packages depend on lexical order or {daily,weekly,monthly} cron jobs?

2019-08-06 Thread Ian Jackson
Philipp Kern writes ("Re: do packages depend on lexical order or {daily,weekly,monthly} cron jobs?"): > On 2019-08-05 17:34, Ian Jackson wrote: > > With current code the options are: > > > > A. Things run in series but with concatenated output and no individual > >status. > > > > B. Things r

Bug#934061: ITP: ruby-acme-client -- Client for the ACME protocol

2019-08-06 Thread Sruthi Chandran
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Sruthi Chandran X-Debbugs-CC: debian-devel@lists.debian.org * Package name: ruby-acme-client Version : 2.0.3 Upstream Author : 2015 Charles Barbier * URL : http://github.com/unixcharles/acme-client * License : Expat Des

Re: duplicate popularity-contest ID

2019-08-06 Thread Russ Allbery
Bill Allombert writes: > Both. > Yesterday I received the same popcon ID 2600 times, and 4700 differents > ID were received two times and 22000 ID were received exactly once. Hm. I think that's still in the range of what could be explained by VM cloning, although the 2600 with the same ID is s

Re: do packages depend on lexical order or {daily,weekly,monthly} cron jobs?

2019-08-06 Thread Philipp Kern
On 2019-08-06 13:43, Bill Allombert wrote: On Mon, Aug 05, 2019 at 10:29:41PM +0200, Philipp Kern wrote: And finally, the load spikes: Upthread it was mentioned that RandomizedDelaySec exists. Generally this should be sufficient to even out such effects. I understand that there is a case where

Bug#934042: ITP: gnome-shell-extension-gamemode -- show the current status of gamemode in the gnome-shell panel

2019-08-06 Thread Jonathan Carter
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Jonathan Carter * Package name: gnome-shell-extension-gamemode Version : 1 Upstream Author : Christian Kellner * URL : https://github.com/gicmo/gamemode-extension * License : LGPL-2.1 Programming Lang: JavaScript Desc

Re: do packages depend on lexical order or {daily,weekly,monthly} cron jobs?

2019-08-06 Thread Bill Allombert
On Mon, Aug 05, 2019 at 10:29:41PM +0200, Philipp Kern wrote: > And finally, the load spikes: Upthread it was mentioned that > RandomizedDelaySec exists. Generally this should be sufficient to even out > such effects. I understand that there is a case where you run a lot of > unrelated VMs that you

Re: duplicate popularity-contest ID

2019-08-06 Thread Bill Allombert
On Mon, Aug 05, 2019 at 08:46:15AM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > Bill Allombert writes: > > > Each Debian popularity-contest submitter is supposed to have a different > > random 128bit popcon ID. However, the popularity-constest server > > receives a lot of submissions

Re: MemberBenefits - Steam Keys (Was: Bits from the DPL (May 2018))

2019-08-06 Thread Jonathan Carter
On 2019/08/06 09:46, Andrej Shadura wrote: > I’m really sorry if nobody did come back to you with this, apparently > your request fell through the cracks. Thanks! Just received your off-list email with the details. -Jonathan -- ⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀ Jonathan Carter (highvoltage) ⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁ Debian Develop

Re: MemberBenefits - Steam Keys (Was: Bits from the DPL (May 2018))

2019-08-06 Thread Andrej Shadura
On 06/08/2019 09:44, Jonathan Carter wrote: > On 2018/06/01 19:22, Andrej Shadura wrote: >>> On 2018-05-31 12:33 PM, Chris Lamb wrote: [11] https://wiki.debian.org/MemberBenefits >>> Oh, this reminds me of something. >>> >>> Has anyone gotten replies to their requests sent to >>> debian-st...

Re: MemberBenefits - Steam Keys (Was: Bits from the DPL (May 2018))

2019-08-06 Thread Jonathan Carter
On 2018/06/01 19:22, Andrej Shadura wrote: >> On 2018-05-31 12:33 PM, Chris Lamb wrote: >>> [11] https://wiki.debian.org/MemberBenefits >> Oh, this reminds me of something. >> >> Has anyone gotten replies to their requests sent to >> debian-st...@collabora.com for the Steam subscriptions mentioned