Work-needing packages report for Jun 21, 2019

2019-06-20 Thread wnpp
The following is a listing of packages for which help has been requested through the WNPP (Work-Needing and Prospective Packages) system in the last week. Total number of orphaned packages: 1437 (new: 0) Total number of packages offered up for adoption: 159 (new: 0) Total number of packages reques

Re: Programs contain ads - acceptable for packaging for Debian?

2019-06-20 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Thu, 20 Jun 2019, Samuel Thibault wrote: > Bagas Sanjaya, le jeu. 20 juin 2019 20:16:08 +0700, a ecrit: > > On 20/06/19 20.11, W. Martin Borgert wrote: > > > Quoting Bagas Sanjaya : > > > > Such ads is displayed only when users have Internet connection, and > > > > there is no way to patch ZZZ i

Re: Programs contain ads - acceptable for packaging for Debian?

2019-06-20 Thread Chris Lamb
Jason Crain wrote: > > Such ads is displayed only when users have Internet connection, and there is > > no way to patch ZZZ in order to remove ads (or we have to buy "pro" version > > which doesn't contain ads and adds more features). > > If it's free software, meaning it is freely modifiable and

Re: Programs contain ads - acceptable for packaging for Debian?

2019-06-20 Thread Jason Crain
On Thu, Jun 20, 2019 at 07:54:38PM +0700, Bagas Sanjaya wrote: > Such ads is displayed only when users have Internet connection, and there is > no way to patch ZZZ in order to remove ads (or we have to buy "pro" version > which doesn't contain ads and adds more features). If it's free software, me

Re: Programs contain ads - acceptable for packaging for Debian?

2019-06-20 Thread Yao Wei (魏銘廷)
Hi, > Bagas Sanjaya 於 2019年6月20日 20:54 寫道: > > Such ads is displayed only when users have Internet connection, and there is > no way to patch ZZZ in order to remove ads (or we have to buy "pro" version > which doesn't contain ads and adds more features). As a DFSG-free software it should be

Re: Programs contain ads - acceptable for packaging for Debian?

2019-06-20 Thread Samuel Thibault
Bagas Sanjaya, le jeu. 20 juin 2019 20:16:08 +0700, a ecrit: > > On 20/06/19 20.11, W. Martin Borgert wrote: > > Quoting Bagas Sanjaya : > > > Such ads is displayed only when users have Internet connection, and > > > there is no way to patch ZZZ in order to remove ads (or we have to > > > buy "pro

Re: Programs contain ads - acceptable for packaging for Debian?

2019-06-20 Thread Bagas Sanjaya
On 20/06/19 20.11, W. Martin Borgert wrote: Quoting Bagas Sanjaya : Such ads is displayed only when users have Internet connection, and there is no way to patch ZZZ in order to remove ads (or we have to buy "pro" version which doesn't contain ads and adds more features). So it's not free so

Re: Re: The Difference between debcheckout and dgit and what theytry to accomplish

2019-06-20 Thread Ian Jackson
Chris Lamb writes ("Re: The Difference between debcheckout and dgit and what theytry to accomplish"): > Hi Enrico, > > This reminds me of something that popped up in a dinner discussion a few > > days ago: mandate documenting workflow in debian/README.source no matter > > what, and allow to symlin

Re: Programs contain ads - acceptable for packaging for Debian?

2019-06-20 Thread Bagas Sanjaya
On 20/06/19 15.49, W. Martin Borgert wrote: Quoting Bagas Sanjaya : Suppose that an upstream has released a program which its license conforms to DFSG (named ZZZ), but when I test it, ads placed by the upstream appear (such as pop up ads). Since ads can affect user experience of ZZZ, but at

Re: Programs contain ads - acceptable for packaging for Debian?

2019-06-20 Thread W. Martin Borgert
Quoting Bagas Sanjaya : Such ads is displayed only when users have Internet connection, and there is no way to patch ZZZ in order to remove ads (or we have to buy "pro" version which doesn't contain ads and adds more features). So it's not free software anyway and does not belong to Debian m

Re: Programs contain ads - acceptable for packaging for Debian?

2019-06-20 Thread Ian Jackson
Simon McVittie writes ("Re: Programs contain ads - acceptable for packaging for Debian?"): > On Thu, 20 Jun 2019 at 13:15:26 +0700, Bagas Sanjaya wrote: > > Suppose that an upstream has released a program which its license conforms > > to DFSG (named ZZZ), but when I test it, ads placed by the ups

Re: Programs contain ads - acceptable for packaging for Debian?

2019-06-20 Thread W. Martin Borgert
Quoting Jonathan Carter : It seems clear-cut enough that it doesn't really need advice from debian-legal. If it's free software then a maintainer is free to patch out any behaviour of the app that's intrusive or otherwise undesirable. If the license of the software doesn't allow that, then it's h

Re: The Difference between debcheckout and dgit and what they try to accomplish

2019-06-20 Thread Chris Lamb
Hi Enrico, > This reminds me of something that popped up in a dinner discussion a few > days ago: mandate documenting workflow in debian/README.source no matter > what, and allow to symlink that file to a repository in > /usr/share/doc/somewhere/ as we do for common licenses. I do like the symlin

Re: The Difference between debcheckout and dgit and what they try to accomplish

2019-06-20 Thread Ansgar Burchardt
On Thu, 2019-06-20 at 10:52 +0200, Enrico Zini wrote: > This reminds me of something that popped up in a dinner discussion a few > days ago: mandate documenting workflow in debian/README.source no matter > what, and allow to symlink that file to a repository in > /usr/share/doc/somewhere/ as we do

Re: Programs contain ads - acceptable for packaging for Debian?

2019-06-20 Thread Jonathan Carter
On 2019/06/20 10:49, W. Martin Borgert wrote: > Otherwise, I would leave it to the package maintainer, > whether they like to disable the ad or not, > but that's more a question for debian-le...@lists.debian.org. It seems clear-cut enough that it doesn't really need advice from debian-legal. If it

Re: Programs contain ads - acceptable for packaging for Debian?

2019-06-20 Thread Simon McVittie
On Thu, 20 Jun 2019 at 13:15:26 +0700, Bagas Sanjaya wrote: > Suppose that an upstream has released a program which its license conforms > to DFSG (named ZZZ), but when I test it, ads placed by the upstream appear > (such as pop up ads). Since ads can affect user experience of ZZZ, but at > the sam

Re: The Difference between debcheckout and dgit and what they try to accomplish

2019-06-20 Thread Enrico Zini
On Wed, Jun 19, 2019 at 11:51:14PM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > What if you took away the necessary guesswork? > > Have dgit support a field in debian/control that, if it exists, explains > to dgit (and any other tool that might care) what the workflow type is. > This would require a categoriz

Re: Programs contain ads - acceptable for packaging for Debian?

2019-06-20 Thread W. Martin Borgert
Quoting Bagas Sanjaya : Suppose that an upstream has released a program which its license conforms to DFSG (named ZZZ), but when I test it, ads placed by the upstream appear (such as pop up ads). Since ads can affect user experience of ZZZ, but at the same time the upstream get paid by ad

Re: Programs contain ads - acceptable for packaging for Debian?

2019-06-20 Thread Russell Stuart
On Thu, 2019-06-20 at 13:15 +0700, Bagas Sanjaya wrote: > Suppose that an upstream has released a program which its license  > conforms to DFSG (named ZZZ), but when I test it, ads placed by the  > upstream appear (such as pop up ads). Since ads can affect user  > experience of ZZZ, but at the same

Re: Programs contain ads - acceptable for packaging for Debian?

2019-06-20 Thread Jerome BENOIT
Hello, Bagas On 20/06/2019 10:15, Bagas Sanjaya wrote: > Hello Debian Developers, > > Suppose that an upstream has released a program which its license conforms to > DFSG (named ZZZ), but when I test it, ads placed by the upstream appear (such > as pop up ads). Since ads can affect user experie