Re: Difficult Packaging Practices

2019-05-27 Thread Vincent Bernat
❦ 28 mai 2019 06:30 +00, Niels Thykier : > I.e. with the proper implementation of "make-it-work" (in the lack of a > better name - maybe something "fetch-and-build"), the following should > be possible > > """ > #!/usr/bin/make -f > > # DISTRIBUTION = $(shell sed -n "s/^VERSION_CODENAME=//p" /etc

Re: Difficult Packaging Practices

2019-05-27 Thread Niels Thykier
Vincent Bernat: > ❦ 28 mai 2019 08:59 +08, Paul Wise : > >>> People using tools like fpm will never get familiar with our tools and >>> will never be contributors. >> >> I enjoyed your blog post about pragmatic packaging using Debian's >> tools instead of fpm, it seems like a good approach if one

Re: Some questions about DD status and salsa

2019-05-27 Thread MENGUAL Jean-Philippe
Le 28/05/2019 à 07:53, Jonathan Carter a écrit : > On 2019/05/28 01:05, MENGUAL Jean-Philippe wrote: >> I am happy with being now a non-uploading DD. And I dont know where to >> ask, sorry for the noise. >> >> For non-uploading DD, is a salsa account created? I tried to auth with >> it, but not p

Adding dMagnetic - A Magnetic Scrolls Interpreter with ANSI art?

2019-05-27 Thread dettus
Hello. My name is Thomas Dettbarn, and following a suggestion on debian-upstream@, I would like to advertise an RFP/RFA I reported to the bugtracker: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=929619 Hopefully this increases its visibility. :) This package, which I would very much

Re: Some questions about DD status and salsa

2019-05-27 Thread Jonathan Carter
On 2019/05/28 01:05, MENGUAL Jean-Philippe wrote: > I am happy with being now a non-uploading DD. And I dont know where to > ask, sorry for the noise. > > For non-uploading DD, is a salsa account created? I tried to auth with > it, but not possible, then to reset the passwd, but I dont rceive mail

Re: Difficult Packaging Practices

2019-05-27 Thread Vincent Bernat
❦ 28 mai 2019 08:59 +08, Paul Wise : >> People using tools like fpm will never get familiar with our tools and >> will never be contributors. > > I enjoyed your blog post about pragmatic packaging using Debian's > tools instead of fpm, it seems like a good approach if one is > committed to using

Re: Difficult Packaging Practices

2019-05-27 Thread Paul Wise
On Mon, May 27, 2019 at 2:52 PM Vincent Bernat wrote: > People using tools like fpm will never get familiar with our tools and > will never be contributors. I enjoyed your blog post about pragmatic packaging using Debian's tools instead of fpm, it seems like a good approach if one is committed to

Some questions about DD status and salsa

2019-05-27 Thread MENGUAL Jean-Philippe
Hi, I am happy with being now a non-uploading DD. And I dont know where to ask, sorry for the noise. For non-uploading DD, is a salsa account created? I tried to auth with it, but not possible, then to reset the passwd, but I dont rceive mail to do it on @debian.org. Thanks for your help Regard

Re: Consensus Call: Do We Want to Require or Recommend DH; comments by 2019-06-16

2019-05-27 Thread Russ Allbery
Jonas Meurer writes: > Depending on the software you packages, doing the initial packaging > already requires a lot of knowledge about library handling, doc build > systems, makefiles, the filesystem hierarchy standard, language-specific > toolchains, etc. > To properly build the package you hav

Re: Consensus Call: Do We Want to Require or Recommend DH; comments by 2019-06-16

2019-05-27 Thread Scott Kitterman
On May 27, 2019 11:50:38 AM UTC, Sam Hartman wrote: >> "Scott" == Scott Kitterman writes: >Scott> If we want to make not using dh except in certain situations >Scott> a bug, it seems like something for a policy should kind of >Scott> item. We have an existing process for updat

Re: Consensus Call: Do We Want to Require or Recommend DH; comments by 2019-06-16

2019-05-27 Thread Scott Leggett
On 2019-05-27.12:27, Jonas Meurer wrote: > Unfortunately I don't have *links* either, but when introducing people > into the world of Debian packaging recently, I always got the impression > that they were heavily overwhelmed by the complexity of the Debian > ecosystem. As a recently promoted DM,

Re: Consensus Call: Do We Want to Require or Recommend DH; comments by 2019-06-16

2019-05-27 Thread Jonas Meurer
Hi Sam, Sam Hartman: >> "Jonas" == Jonas Meurer writes: > Jonas> My opinion is that more uniformity in packaging practices > Jonas> will bring a bit more simplicity as well. Therefore I applaud > Jonas> Sam's initiative to require DH whereever it's sensible. > > Hi. > I'm acting

Bug#929620: ITP: python-django-storages -- storage backends in Django

2019-05-27 Thread Michael Fladischer
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Michael Fladischer -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 * Package name: python-django-storages Version : 1.7.1 Upstream Author : Josh Schneier * URL : https://github.com/jschneier/django-storages/ * License :

Re: Consensus Call: Do We Want to Require or Recommend DH; comments by 2019-06-16

2019-05-27 Thread Sam Hartman
> "Jonas" == Jonas Meurer writes: Jonas> My opinion is that more uniformity in packaging practices Jonas> will bring a bit more simplicity as well. Therefore I applaud Jonas> Sam's initiative to require DH whereever it's sensible. Hi. I'm acting as a facilitator here not as a pr

Re: Difficult Packaging Practices

2019-05-27 Thread Sam Hartman
> "Ben" == Ben Finney writes: Ben> Sam Hartman writes: >> If you just want to get upstream's idea of their package onto a >> system with their release schedule and their recommended >> dependency versions, there are better ways than getting a package >> into Debian.

Re: Consensus Call: Do We Want to Require or Recommend DH; comments by 2019-06-16

2019-05-27 Thread Alex Mestiashvili
On 5/27/19 6:29 AM, Andreas Tille wrote: > On Sun, May 26, 2019 at 07:28:55PM +0200, Vincent Bernat wrote: >>> We "uphold this reputation" by maintaining many packages, which is >>> good. >> >> Do we? I am now using nix to get packages for stuff not in Debian. Our >> package count is artificiall

Re: Consensus Call: Do We Want to Require or Recommend DH; comments by 2019-06-16

2019-05-27 Thread Sam Hartman
> "Scott" == Scott Kitterman writes: Scott> If we want to make not using dh except in certain situations Scott> a bug, it seems like something for a policy should kind of Scott> item. We have an existing process for updating policy, so Scott> this should probably be kicked ove

Re: Difficult Packaging Practices

2019-05-27 Thread Sam Hartman
> "Russ" == Russ Allbery writes: Russ> This is my experience as well. I've occasionally tried to get Russ> people at work (at various jobs) interested in packaging Russ> software for Debian, without all that much success. The Russ> problem seems less any one specific thing a

Re: Consensus Call: Do We Want to Require or Recommend DH; comments by 2019-06-16

2019-05-27 Thread Jonas Meurer
Adrian Bunk: > On Sun, May 26, 2019 at 11:34:39AM +0200, Vincent Bernat wrote: >> ... >> We have a reputation of having difficult >> packaging practices. We uphold this reputation as long as we have so >> many ways to do the same thing. > > [citation needed] > > I do honestly not know what stat