Re: Upcoming Qt switch to OpenGL ES on arm64

2018-11-28 Thread Steve Langasek
On Wed, Nov 28, 2018 at 11:46:21PM +0200, Adrian Bunk wrote: > On Tue, Nov 27, 2018 at 02:06:27PM -0800, Steve Langasek wrote: > >... > > Hmm, so I'm not sure this reflects the actual state of the art wrt dual Qt > > stacks as it existed in Ubuntu at the time Ubuntu Touch was sunsetted. > >... > I

Re: wicd-daemon-run_1.0_amd64.changes REJECTED

2018-11-28 Thread Ansgar Burchardt
Lorenz writes: > Ansgar Burchardt: >>As a possible alternative: ship the runscript and some metadata (which >>systemd service(s) and/or sysvinit script(s) this corresponds with; >>which system users would be needed; ...) either in the service package >>(preferred long-term) or a "runscripts" packag

Re: wicd-daemon-run_1.0_amd64.changes REJECTED

2018-11-28 Thread Russ Allbery
Lorenz writes: > That will work for runit-init, but what about runit-sysv and > runit-systemd? Let's say I have systemd (as init), runit-systemd and a > foo daemon installed; and 'runscripts' package ship a run script for > foo. How can I detect if the user wants to manage foo with runit or with

Re: Upcoming Qt switch to OpenGL ES on arm64

2018-11-28 Thread Wookey
On 2018-11-27 21:19 -0300, Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer wrote: > El martes, 27 de noviembre de 2018 20:39:58 -03 Steve Langasek escribió: > > prepare dual stack packages that use the symbols file magic from > > Ubuntu, rebuild all the reverse-dependencies, and identify all those > > package

Re: Re: wicd-daemon-run_1.0_amd64.changes REJECTED

2018-11-28 Thread Lorenz
Hi, sorry for the extended quote, it's for reference in the debian-runit mailing list (i'm subscribed there and you drop the CC) Ansgar Burchardt: >We generally try to avoid tiny packages in the archive; having 1000+ >automatically generated source and binary packages in the archive seems >like a

Re: Upcoming Qt switch to OpenGL ES on arm64

2018-11-28 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Wed, Nov 28, 2018 at 05:03:51PM +0300, Dmitry Shachnev wrote: > On Tue, Nov 27, 2018 at 11:00:52PM -0800, Steve Langasek wrote: > > $ grep-dctrl -n -sSource:Package -FDepends \ > > -e > > 'libqt5(gui|3drenderer|quick|quickparticles|quickwidgets|multimediawidgets)5[[:space:]]*(\(>= > >

Re: Upcoming Qt switch to OpenGL ES on arm64

2018-11-28 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Tue, Nov 27, 2018 at 02:06:27PM -0800, Steve Langasek wrote: >... > Hmm, so I'm not sure this reflects the actual state of the art wrt dual Qt > stacks as it existed in Ubuntu at the time Ubuntu Touch was sunsetted. >... Is there some rationale documented somewhere why this wasn't used in Ubun

Re: Upcoming Qt switch to OpenGL ES on arm64

2018-11-28 Thread Steve Langasek
On Wed, Nov 28, 2018 at 05:03:51PM +0300, Dmitry Shachnev wrote: > On Tue, Nov 27, 2018 at 11:00:52PM -0800, Steve Langasek wrote: > The amount of packages will probably be larger in the current sid, > but it should not be more than 20 packages. > Plus there are packages which are using QT_OPENGL_

Re: wicd-daemon-run_1.0_amd64.changes REJECTED

2018-11-28 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
]] Dmitry Bogatov > which is provided by `-run' package: > > $ dpkg -L wicd-daemon-run > [...] > /etc/sv/wicd-daemon/log > /etc/sv/wicd-daemon/log/run > /etc/sv/wicd-daemon/run > /var/log/runit/wicd-daemon Does it also provide an init script? Else, it's RC b

Re: wicd-daemon-run_1.0_amd64.changes REJECTED

2018-11-28 Thread Michael Stone
On Wed, Nov 28, 2018 at 06:48:05PM +, Dmitry Bogatov wrote: I believed (and still believe, despite of REJECT), that best way is 0. One source package, providing single binary package per runscript. No, that's horrible. I agree with the REJECT.

Re: NEW and RC bugs (Re: julia_1.0.0-1_amd64.changes REJECTED)

2018-11-28 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Tue, Nov 27, 2018 at 01:01:12PM +0500, Andrey Rahmatullin wrote: > On Tue, Nov 27, 2018 at 08:38:56AM +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > > > > The experimental distribution is a good place for work in > > > > progress. Maybe the rules for automatic rejects can be relaxed for > > > > experimental so

Re: wicd-daemon-run_1.0_amd64.changes REJECTED

2018-11-28 Thread Ansgar Burchardt
Dmitry Bogatov writes: > I believed (and still believe, despite of REJECT), that best way is > > 0. One source package, providing single binary package per runscript. > >src:{foo}-run -> bin:{foo}-run -> /etc/sv/{foo} We generally try to avoid tiny packages in the archive; having 1000+ automat

Bug#914928: ITP: python-typing-extensions -- Backported and Experimental Type Hints for Python

2018-11-28 Thread Michael R. Crusoe
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Debian Med team * Package name: python-typing-extensions Version : 3.6.6 Upstream Author : Guido van Rossum, Jukka Lehtosalo, Lukasz Langa, Michael Lee * URL : https://github.com/python/typing/blob/master/typing_extensions/REA

Re: wicd-daemon-run_1.0_amd64.changes REJECTED

2018-11-28 Thread Dmitry Bogatov
[ Added runit maining list in thread ] [2018-11-27 19:00] Bastian Blank > All those *-run packages > - are tiny (under 100 bytes of content), > - generated (so why different source packages?) and > - there sole purpose is providing support for another init system. > > Please let's reach consen

Re: Tainted builds (was Re: usrmerge -- plan B?)

2018-11-28 Thread Bastian Blank
On Wed, Nov 28, 2018 at 02:48:32PM -0200, Antonio Terceiro wrote: > Would you be willing to also implement > Tainted-By: not-built-in-a-chroot > ? What do you want to do with that? Even our own stuff not always uses chroot, why should it? Bastian -- Ahead warp factor one, Mr. Sulu.

Re: Tainted builds (was Re: usrmerge -- plan B?)

2018-11-28 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
On Wed, Nov 28, 2018 at 06:40:46PM +0100, Guillem Jover wrote: > On Wed, 2018-11-28 at 22:13:41 +0500, Andrey Rahmatullin wrote: > > On Wed, Nov 28, 2018 at 02:48:32PM -0200, Antonio Terceiro wrote: > > > (ischroot(1) is from debianutils which is Essential). > > > "On GNU/Linux, chroot detection i

Re: Tainted builds (was Re: usrmerge -- plan B?)

2018-11-28 Thread Guillem Jover
On Wed, 2018-11-28 at 22:13:41 +0500, Andrey Rahmatullin wrote: > On Wed, Nov 28, 2018 at 02:48:32PM -0200, Antonio Terceiro wrote: > > (ischroot(1) is from debianutils which is Essential). > "On GNU/Linux, chroot detection is not possible when not root." I think this was just missed as part of t

Re: Tainted builds (was Re: usrmerge -- plan B?)

2018-11-28 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
On Wed, Nov 28, 2018 at 02:48:32PM -0200, Antonio Terceiro wrote: > Would you be willing to also implement > > Tainted-By: not-built-in-a-chroot That doesn't mean anything. You can build in a bad chroot and you can build in a clean minimal sid system which is not a chroot but a VM. > (ischr

Re: Tainted builds (was Re: usrmerge -- plan B?)

2018-11-28 Thread Antonio Terceiro
On Wed, Nov 28, 2018 at 02:57:52PM +0100, Guillem Jover wrote: > Hi! > > On Wed, 2018-11-28 at 07:52:08 +0500, Alexander E. Patrakov wrote: > > Well, the buildd configuration change has been reverted. What worries me now > > is that there is a risk not yet mitigated, coming from personal systems o

Re: Upcoming Qt switch to OpenGL ES on arm64

2018-11-28 Thread Dmitry Shachnev
On Tue, Nov 27, 2018 at 11:00:52PM -0800, Steve Langasek wrote: > $ grep-dctrl -n -sSource:Package -FDepends \ > -e > 'libqt5(gui|3drenderer|quick|quickparticles|quickwidgets|multimediawidgets)5[[:space:]]*(\(>= > 5\.[0-9.]*\))(?|$),' \ > > /var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_u

Tainted builds (was Re: usrmerge -- plan B?)

2018-11-28 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi! On Wed, 2018-11-28 at 07:52:08 +0500, Alexander E. Patrakov wrote: > Well, the buildd configuration change has been reverted. What worries me now > is that there is a risk not yet mitigated, coming from personal systems of > Debian developers, and we should also check porter boxes. > > As lon

Re: Deployment of buildd machines [was: Re: usrmerge -- plan B?]

2018-11-28 Thread Julien Cristau
On 11/28/18 2:26 PM, Daniel Reichelt wrote: > On 11/22/18 1:56 PM, Ian Jackson wrote: >> (Bear in mind of course that happily our build machines >> *can* be reverted because they are frequently re-imaged.[…]) > > Using code from a debian package? Some script being hand-knitted using > hot needles?

Deployment of buildd machines [was: Re: usrmerge -- plan B?]

2018-11-28 Thread Daniel Reichelt
On 11/22/18 1:56 PM, Ian Jackson wrote: > (Bear in mind of course that happily our build machines > *can* be reverted because they are frequently re-imaged.[…]) Using code from a debian package? Some script being hand-knitted using hot needles? Anyways, I'm interested in how this is done…"this" me

Re: Upcoming Qt switch to OpenGL ES on arm64

2018-11-28 Thread Dmitry Shachnev
Hi Steve and all, On Tue, Nov 27, 2018 at 03:39:58PM -0800, Steve Langasek wrote: > It is actually fairly easy to answer this question as well: simply identify > all the packages in the archive that depend on one of the known dual-stack > libraries, prepare dual stack packages that use the symbols

Re: Upcoming Qt switch to OpenGL ES on arm64

2018-11-28 Thread Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer
Hi Steve! El miércoles, 28 de noviembre de 2018 04:00:52 -03 Steve Langasek escribió: [snip] > > At this point I really feel that, except I am missing something, double > > building is just not a good idea :-/ > > Ok, I don't think you've understood then. Perhaps a further example from > the Ub

Bug#914897: debootstrap, buster: Please disabled merged /usr by default

2018-11-28 Thread Ian Jackson
Package: debootstrap Version: debootstrap/1.0.110 Severity: serious Merged /usr is now the default in buster. As discussed on debian-devel, however, binary packages built on a merged-usr system are not installable on a non-merged-usr system. I think we would like ad hoc builds of packages from o

Bug#914898: debootstrap, stretch-backports: Please disabled merged /usr by default

2018-11-28 Thread Ian Jackson
Package: debootstrap Version: debootstrap/1.0.110~bpo9+1 Severity: serious In #914208 Simon McVittie writes: > [merge-/usr] is now the default in stretch-backports' debootstrap As discussed on debian-devel, however, binary packages built on a merged-usr system are not installable on a non-merged-

Re: Qt with GLES on arm64 maintainer's decision - Was:: Upcoming Qt switch to OpenGL ES on arm64

2018-11-28 Thread Rohan Garg
Hey > Here I agree with Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton’s opinion [1]. > > I think we should aim to provide the best possible experience with the free > software ecosystem. The experience with proprietary drivers should be the > second priority, if priority at all. > AFAIU by building Qt with GLES we

Re: Re: usrmerge -- plan B?

2018-11-28 Thread Ansgar Burchardt
On Wed, 2018-11-28 at 09:45 +, Holger Levsen wrote: > On Wed, Nov 28, 2018 at 07:52:08AM +0500, Alexander E. Patrakov > wrote: > As long as there is one Debian Developer (or any other person who has the > > right to upload binary packages) who has a merged /usr on his system used > > for build

Re: Re: usrmerge -- plan B?

2018-11-28 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
On Wed, Nov 28, 2018 at 07:52:08AM +0500, Alexander E. Patrakov wrote: > As long as there is one Debian Developer (or any other person who has the > right to upload binary packages) who has a merged /usr on his system used > for building packages, there is a risk of reintroducing the bug through hi

Re: Re: usrmerge -- plan B?

2018-11-28 Thread Holger Levsen
On Wed, Nov 28, 2018 at 07:52:08AM +0500, Alexander E. Patrakov wrote: As long as there is one Debian Developer (or any other person who has the > right to upload binary packages) who has a merged /usr on his system used > for building packages, there is a risk of reintroducing the bug through his