Bug#903686: ITP: r-cran-kmi -- GNU R Kaplan-Meier Multiple Imputation

2018-07-12 Thread Andreas Tille
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Andreas Tille * Package name: r-cran-kmi Version : 0.5.4 Upstream Author : Arthur Allignol * URL : https://cran.r-project.org/package=kmi * License : GPL-2+ Programming Lang: GNU R Description : GNU R Kaplan-Meie

Re: Concerns to software freedom when packaging deep-learning based appications.

2018-07-12 Thread Russ Allbery
Russell Stuart writes: > Apart from the "non-human" intelligence bit none of this is different to > what we _already_ accept into Debian. It's very unlikely I could have > sensible contributions to the game engines of the best chess, backgammon > or Go programs Debian has now. For what it's wor

Re: Concerns to software freedom when packaging deep-learning based appications.

2018-07-12 Thread Russell Stuart
On Thu, 2018-07-12 at 18:15 +0100, Ian Jackson wrote: > Compare neural networks: a user who uses a pre-trained neural network > is subordinated to the people who prepared its training data and set > up the training runs. In Alpha-Zero's case (it is Alpha-Zero the original post was about) there is

Work-needing packages report for Jul 13, 2018

2018-07-12 Thread wnpp
The following is a listing of packages for which help has been requested through the WNPP (Work-Needing and Prospective Packages) system in the last week. Total number of orphaned packages: 1272 (new: 11) Total number of packages offered up for adoption: 164 (new: 5) Total number of packages reque

Re: Concerns to software freedom when packaging deep-learning based appications.

2018-07-12 Thread Russ Allbery
Ian Jackson writes: > Taking a step back: the point of this exercise is to preserve user > freedom. That is, a user should be able to make their computer serve > their interests, and should not be subordinated to upstreams (nor to > Debian or to one of our derivatives0. > A user who uses NASA's

Re: Concerns to software freedom when packaging deep-learning based appications.

2018-07-12 Thread Ian Jackson
Russ Allbery writes ("Re: Concerns to software freedom when packaging deep-learning based appications."): > I'm not sure I disagree, but I think it's worth poking at this a bit and > seeing if it holds up in extension by analogy to other precomputed data. Perhaps. > Suppose that NASA releases a

Re: Concerns to software freedom when packaging deep-learning based appications.

2018-07-12 Thread Russ Allbery
Ian Jackson writes: > Lumin writes: >> 1. Is GPL-licended pretrained neural network REALLY FREE? Is it really >> DFSG-compatible? > No. No. > Things in Debian main shoudl be buildable *from source* using Debian > main. In the case of a pretrained neural network, the source code is > the

Bug#903660: ITP: enchive -- long-term archive encryption tool

2018-07-12 Thread zebmccorkle
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: zebmccorkle * Package name: enchive Version : 3.4 Upstream Author : Christopher Wellons * URL : https://github.com/skeeto/enchive * License : Unlicense Programming Lang: C Description : long-term archive encrypti

Re: Concerns to software freedom when packaging deep-learning based appications.

2018-07-12 Thread Paul Wise
On Thu, Jul 12, 2018 at 8:35 PM, Lumin wrote: > I just noticed that one of us tries to package deep-learning based > application[1], specifically it is AlphaGo-Zero[2] based. However, this > raised my concern about software freedom. Since mankind relys on artificial > intelligence more and more, I

Re: Concerns to software freedom when packaging deep-learning based appications.

2018-07-12 Thread Ian Jackson
Georges Khaznadar writes ("Re: Concerns to software freedom when packaging deep-learning based appications."): > The question is, what are sources of Y? I presume that any sane judge > would agree that in that case, sources are the set of materials and > immaterials which allow one to rebuild cons

Re: Concerns to software freedom when packaging deep-learning based appications.

2018-07-12 Thread Ian Jackson
Lumin writes ("Concerns to software freedom when packaging deep-learning based appications."): > 1. Is GPL-licended pretrained neural network REALLY FREE? Is it really > DFSG-compatible? No. No. Things in Debian main shoudl be buildable *from source* using Debian main. In the case of a pr

Bug#903658: ITP: eclipse-platform-ui -- User interface and help components of the Eclipse IDE

2018-07-12 Thread Emmanuel Bourg
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Emmanuel Bourg * Package name: eclipse-platform-ui Version : 4.7.3 Upstream Author : Eclipse Foundation, Inc. * URL : https://www.eclipse.org/eclipse/platform-ui/ * License : EPL-1.0 Programming Lang: Java Description

Bug#903653: ITP: eclipse-platform-text -- Basic building blocks for text and text editors within Eclipse

2018-07-12 Thread Emmanuel Bourg
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Emmanuel Bourg * Package name: eclipse-platform-text Version : 4.7.3 Upstream Author : Eclipse Foundation, Inc. * URL : http://www.eclipse.org/eclipse/platform-text/ * License : EPL-1.0 Programming Lang: Java Descript

Bug#903650: ITP: ros-kdl-parser -- converts urdf to kdl

2018-07-12 Thread Johannes 'josch' Schauer
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Johannes 'josch' Schauer * Package name: ros-kdl-parser Version : 1.13.0 Upstream Author : Willow Garage, Inc., University of Tokyo * URL : https://github.com/ros/kdl_parser * License : BSD-3-clause Programming Lang: C+

Bug#903651: ITP: ros-urdf -- parser for urdf

2018-07-12 Thread Johannes 'josch' Schauer
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Johannes 'josch' Schauer * Package name: ros-urdf Version : 1.13.1 Upstream Author : Willow Garage, Inc., University of Tokyo * URL : https://github.com/ros/urdf * License : BSD-3-clause Programming Lang: C++ Descript

Bug#903648: ITP: ros-joint-state-publisher -- publishing joint state messages for a robot described with urdf

2018-07-12 Thread Johannes 'josch' Schauer
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Johannes 'josch' Schauer * Package name: ros-joint-state-publisher Version : 1.12.13 Upstream Author : Willow Garage, Inc., University of Tokyo * URL : https://github.com/ros/joint_state_publisher * License : BSD-3-clause

Bug#903649: ITP: ros-collada-urdf -- convert collada files to urdf

2018-07-12 Thread Johannes 'josch' Schauer
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Johannes 'josch' Schauer * Package name: ros-collada-urdf Version : 1.12.12 Upstream Author : Willow Garage, Inc., University of Tokyo * URL : https://github.com/ros/collada_urdf * License : BSD-3-clause Programming Lan

Re: Concerns to software freedom when packaging deep-learning based appications.

2018-07-12 Thread Holger Levsen
On Thu, Jul 12, 2018 at 02:16:01PM +0100, Ian Campbell wrote: > > so what? Debian runs on non-free CPUs too, how is this any different? > AIUI there is a pile of non-free libraries/tools on the host side too, thanks for this clarification! -- cheers, Holger signature.asc Description:

Bug#903647: ITP: wmmisc -- dockapp that monitors your system

2018-07-12 Thread Doug Torrance
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Doug Torrance * Package name: wmmisc Version : 1.2 Upstream Author : Window Maker Team * URL : https://www.dockapps.net/wmmisc * License : GPL Programming Lang: C Description : dockapp that monitors your system

Re: Concerns to software freedom when packaging deep-learning based appications.

2018-07-12 Thread Ian Campbell
On Thu, 2018-07-12 at 19:03 +0500, Andrey Rahmatullin wrote: > On Thu, Jul 12, 2018 at 02:16:01PM +0100, Ian Campbell wrote: > > > > (3) CUDA Deep Neural Network library (cuDNN)[4] is NVIDIA's > > > > **PROPRIETARY**, > > > > stacked on CUDA, and requires NVIDIA GPU exclusively. > > > > > >

Re: Concerns to software freedom when packaging deep-learning based appications.

2018-07-12 Thread Georges Khaznadar
Hello, Lumin a écrit : > [...] > Even if upstream releases their pretrained model under GPL license, > the freedom to modify, research, reproduce the neural networks, > especially "very deep" neural networks is de facto controled by > PROPRIETARIES. In my opinion, a company releasing a pr

Bug#903645: ITP: eclipse-platform-resources -- Fundamental model underlying the IDE portion of the Eclipse Platform

2018-07-12 Thread Emmanuel Bourg
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Emmanuel Bourg * Package name: eclipse-platform-resources Version : 4.7.3 Upstream Author : Eclipse Foundation, Inc. * URL : http://wiki.eclipse.org/Resources * License : EPL-1.0 Programming Lang: Java Description

Breaking devices after, first install run. Information recovering steps

2018-07-12 Thread Heliogábalo Santos
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Re: Concerns to software freedom when packaging deep-learning based appications.

2018-07-12 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
On Thu, Jul 12, 2018 at 02:16:01PM +0100, Ian Campbell wrote: > > > (3) CUDA Deep Neural Network library (cuDNN)[4] is NVIDIA's > > > **PROPRIETARY**, > > > stacked on CUDA, and requires NVIDIA GPU exclusively. > > > > so what? Debian runs on non-free CPUs too, how is this any different? >

Bug#903643: ITP: baconqrcode -- QR Code Generator for PHP

2018-07-12 Thread Joost van Baal-Ilić
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Joost van Baal-Ilić * Package name: baconqrcode Version : 2.0.0 Upstream Author : Ben "DASPRiD" Scholzen * URL : https://github.com/Bacon/BaconQrCode * License : BSD-2-clause Programming Lang: PHP Description : QR

Re: Concerns to software freedom when packaging deep-learning based appications.

2018-07-12 Thread Ian Campbell
On Thu, 2018-07-12 at 13:09 +, Holger Levsen wrote: > On Thu, Jul 12, 2018 at 12:35:24PM +, Lumin wrote: > > (3) CUDA Deep Neural Network library (cuDNN)[4] is NVIDIA's > > **PROPRIETARY**, > > stacked on CUDA, and requires NVIDIA GPU exclusively. > > so what? Debian runs on non-free

Re: Concerns to software freedom when packaging deep-learning based appications.

2018-07-12 Thread Holger Levsen
On Thu, Jul 12, 2018 at 12:35:24PM +, Lumin wrote: > (3) CUDA Deep Neural Network library (cuDNN)[4] is NVIDIA's **PROPRIETARY**, > stacked on CUDA, and requires NVIDIA GPU exclusively. so what? Debian runs on non-free CPUs too, how is this any different? (and yes, I'd be happy to learn

Re: Concerns to software freedom when packaging deep-learning based appications.

2018-07-12 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Hi Lumin, Quoting Lumin (2018-07-12 14:35:24) > My core concern is: > > Even if upstream releases their pretrained model under GPL license, > the freedom to modify, research, reproduce the neural networks, > especially "very deep" neural networks is de facto controled by > PROPRIETARIE

Concerns to software freedom when packaging deep-learning based appications.

2018-07-12 Thread Lumin
Hi folks, I just noticed that one of us tries to package deep-learning based application[1], specifically it is AlphaGo-Zero[2] based. However, this raised my concern about software freedom. Since mankind relys on artificial intelligence more and more, I think I should raise this topic on -devel.

Bug#903634: ITP: leela-zero -- Go engine with no human-provided knowledge, modeled after the AlphaGo Zero paper.

2018-07-12 Thread Ximin Luo
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Ximin Luo * Package name: leela-zero Version : 0.15 Upstream Author : Gian-Carlo Pascutto * URL : https://github.com/gcp/leela-zero * License : GPL-3 Programming Lang: C++ Description : Go engine with no human-pr

Bug#903632: ITP: eclipse-platform-runtime -- Core Eclipse components providing basic headless platform infrastructure

2018-07-12 Thread Emmanuel Bourg
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Emmanuel Bourg * Package name: eclipse-platform-runtime Version : 4.7.3 Upstream Author : Eclipse Foundation, Inc. * URL : http://www.eclipse.org/eclipse/platform-core/ * License : EPL-1.0, Apache-2.0 Programming Lang:

Bug#903625: ITP: pikepdf -- python library for reading and writing PDFs, powered by qpdf

2018-07-12 Thread Sean Whitton
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Sean Whitton * Package name: pikepdf Version : 0.2.2 Upstream Author : James R. Barlow * URL : https://github.com/pikepdf/pikepdf * License : MPL-2.0 Programming Lang: Python & C++ Description : python library fo

Bug#903624: ITP: python-xmp-toolkit -- python library to read and write XMP metadata

2018-07-12 Thread Sean Whitton
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Sean Whitton * Package name: python-xmp-toolkit Version : 2.0.1 Upstream Author : Lars Holm Nielsen, John Evans, Federico Caboni, Amit Kapadia and Steve Rubin * URL : https://github.com/python-xmp-toolkit/pyth