Re: multiple ITPs - mbrola voices

2018-04-21 Thread Paul Gevers
Hi, On 21-04-18 23:51, Samuel Thibault wrote: > Well, that becomes a question of taste. We do need separate binary > packages anyway, I don't see how using separate source packages makes it > uglier. Being one that uploads voices as well, I agree with Samuel on this. Note though (and I started a

Removal philosophy

2018-04-21 Thread Steve Robbins
On Saturday, April 21, 2018 4:05:27 PM CDT Jeremy Bicha wrote: > But I think if we had that philosophy, we > wouldn't ever remove anything until identified security concerns force > it out. I don't see anything wrong with that philosophy. Assuming someone is willing to maintain a package and it i

Re: multiple ITPs - mbrola voices

2018-04-21 Thread Samuel Thibault
Chris Lamb, le sam. 21 avril 2018 16:28:49 +0100, a ecrit: > Let me play devil's advocate for a second… Whilst I would agree > that uploading a package containing all the existing ones for an > addition might potentially be wasteful of mirror bandwidth, rsync & > friends would surely be clever eno

Re: Please do not drop Python 2 modules

2018-04-21 Thread Scott Kitterman
On April 21, 2018 9:05:27 PM UTC, Jeremy Bicha wrote: >On Sat, Apr 21, 2018 at 1:57 PM, Adrian Bunk wrote: >> The tip of the iceberg are some recent cases where Python 2 modules >> were dropped that still had reverse dependencies in unstable, but >> also for those without there will in many cas

Re: Please do not drop Python 2 modules

2018-04-21 Thread Jeremy Bicha
On Sat, Apr 21, 2018 at 1:57 PM, Adrian Bunk wrote: > The tip of the iceberg are some recent cases where Python 2 modules > were dropped that still had reverse dependencies in unstable, but > also for those without there will in many cases be users who will > still need these modules in buster. O

Re: Questionable mass bug filling

2018-04-21 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 04/21/2018 05:36 PM, Scott Kitterman wrote: > > > On April 21, 2018 3:05:54 PM UTC, Thomas Goirand wrote: >> Hi Helmut, > ... >> Also, some of the bugs are questionable at least. While yes, the python >> modules can't be imported, it doesn't seem it's been done in the >> context >> of actuall

Re: Questionable mass bug filling

2018-04-21 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 04/21/2018 05:14 PM, Jeremy Bicha wrote: > On Sat, Apr 21, 2018 at 11:05 AM, Thomas Goirand wrote: >> However, I haven't seen a message from you sent to debian-devel. Did I >> miss it, or were you unaware that this is mandatory before such mass >> filling? > > Yes, it looks like you missed the

Re: distributing .buildinfo files (Re: Bad interaction between pbuilder/debhelper/dpkg-buildinfo/dpkg-genchanges and dak on security-master)

2018-04-21 Thread Holger Levsen
On Thu, Apr 05, 2018 at 10:43:04AM +0200, Philipp Kern wrote: > So what would be needed to make at least a simple export of the data > happen? I think the requirements I'd have are these: that's a good question! :) maybe we can sit together with some ftp-team and reproducible builds folks in Hamb

Re: Please do not drop Python 2 modules

2018-04-21 Thread Jeremy Stanley
On 2018-04-21 20:57:55 +0300 (+0300), Adrian Bunk wrote: [...] > There are of course cases (e.g. OpenStack) where providing Python 2 > modules in buster is not possible with reasonable effort. Consider me mildly curious as to why that is. The OpenStack community rigorously tests all its current pr

Re: Please do not drop Python 2 modules

2018-04-21 Thread olivier sallou
Le sam. 21 avr. 2018 20:04, Chris Lamb a écrit : > Adrian Bunk wrote: > > > The tip of the iceberg are some recent cases where Python 2 modules > > were dropped that still had reverse dependencies in unstable > > I suspect developers may be reading too much into Lintian output, > reading them as

Re: Please do not drop Python 2 modules

2018-04-21 Thread Chris Lamb
Adrian Bunk wrote: > The tip of the iceberg are some recent cases where Python 2 modules > were dropped that still had reverse dependencies in unstable I suspect developers may be reading too much into Lintian output, reading them as "Please remove your Python 2.x module". The motivating behind

Please do not drop Python 2 modules

2018-04-21 Thread Adrian Bunk
Hi, first two facts: 1. Upstream EOL for Python 2 is 2020 2. Debian will fully (security) support Python 2 in buster until the EOL of buster (ETA: mid-2022) Python 2 is obsolete, no doubt about that. But in many cases a Linux distribution is just a platform for running own applications, an

Re: multiple ITPs - mbrola voices

2018-04-21 Thread Bastian Blank
On Sat, Apr 21, 2018 at 04:28:49PM +0100, Chris Lamb wrote: > Let me play devil's advocate for a second… Whilst I would agree > that uploading a package containing all the existing ones for an > addition might potentially be wasteful of mirror bandwidth, rsync & > friends would surely be clever en

Re: Questionable mass bug filling

2018-04-21 Thread Scott Kitterman
On April 21, 2018 3:05:54 PM UTC, Thomas Goirand wrote: >Hi Helmut, ... >Also, some of the bugs are questionable at least. While yes, the python >modules can't be imported, it doesn't seem it's been done in the >context >of actually using the Python module. For example, importing a sphinx >plugi

Re: multiple ITPs - mbrola voices

2018-04-21 Thread Chris Lamb
Hi Jeremy et al., > It might be a bit late to try to change the source packaging for > all of that. Oh, I don't know it's ever to late to improve something :) Let me play devil's advocate for a second… Whilst I would agree that uploading a package containing all the existing ones for an additio

Re: Questionable mass bug filling

2018-04-21 Thread Jeremy Bicha
On Sat, Apr 21, 2018 at 11:05 AM, Thomas Goirand wrote: > However, I haven't seen a message from you sent to debian-devel. Did I > miss it, or were you unaware that this is mandatory before such mass > filling? Yes, it looks like you missed the message: https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2018/

Questionable mass bug filling

2018-04-21 Thread Thomas Goirand
Hi Helmut, You've filled a large number of bugs against some of the packages I maintain. Thanks for this effort. However, I haven't seen a message from you sent to debian-devel. Did I miss it, or were you unaware that this is mandatory before such mass filling? Also, some of the bugs are questio

Re: multiple ITPs - mbrola voices

2018-04-21 Thread Jeremy Bicha
On Sat, Apr 21, 2018 at 4:02 AM, Chris Lamb wrote: > Secondly, am sorry for not seeing this until these hit NEW. For 100% > clarity, I've put them "on hold" there for the time being. Chris, are you aware that there are already about 45 mbrola voices packages in Debian, even before these new ITPs?

Bug#896469: ITP: ruby-goldiloader -- Automatically eager loads Rails associations as associations are traversed

2018-04-21 Thread Manas Kashyap
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Manas kashyap X-Debbugs-CC: debian-devel@lists.debian.org, debian-r...@lists.debian.org * Package name    : ruby-goldiloader   Version : 2.1.0   Upstream Author : Joel Turkel. * URL : https://github.com/salsify/goldiloader * License 

Bug#896466: ITP: dune -- composable build system for OCaml projects

2018-04-21 Thread Nicolas Braud-Santoni
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Nicolas Braud-Santoni * Package name: dune Version : 1.0~beta20 Upstream Author : Jane Street Group, LLC * URL : https://github.com/ocaml/dune * License : Apache-2.0 Programming Lang: OCaml Description : composabl

Re: Bug#886968: btrfs-progs-udeb: depends on non-udeb: libzstd1

2018-04-21 Thread Niels Thykier
clone 886968 -1 retitle -1 debhelper: Make -V the default for dh_makeshlibs severity -1 wishlist tags -1 patch thanks Emilio Pozuelo Monfort: > [...] > > It's not in policy (but I don't think it has to be), but following the > conversation on #-ftp yesterday I opened: > > #895949 lintian: warn a

Bug#896458: RFH: swi-prolog -- ISO/Edinburgh-style Prolog interpreter

2018-04-21 Thread Lev Lamberov
Package: wnpp Severity: normal Hi, I'm looking for co-maintainers for the swi-prolog package, which is a Prolog interpreter, written in C (core) and Prolog itself (most of its libraries). SWI-Prolog is still under active development, especially compared to other Prolog implementations (most of wh

Re: multiple ITPs - mbrola voices

2018-04-21 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Chris Lamb, le sam. 21 avril 2018 09:02:44 +0100, a ecrit: > Anyway, did you consider using dpkg's support for multiple source > tarballs? Yes. The thing is: I don't expect many updates (if any) of the existing packages: since they basically ship a couple of files in well-established plac

Re: multiple ITPs - mbrola voices

2018-04-21 Thread Chris Lamb
Hi Samuel, > There is currently some momentum to make espeak-ng able to use mbrola > voices. I am thus uploading them to Debian. Here is the list of ITPs: [snip 30 ITPs] First, thanks for packaging this :) Secondly, am sorry for not seeing this until these hit NEW. For 100% clarity, I've put t