Re: FTP Policy Development

2018-03-07 Thread Steve Robbins
Sure I do understand how things work. I'm not suggesting that ALL discussions need be public - specifically I was not meaning deliberations on any given case. But I do think that general policy discussions should involve the entire debian community - as is done for Debian Policy Manual. O

Bug#892305: ITP: goval-parser -- OVAL parser written in go

2018-03-07 Thread Nobuhiro Iwamatsu
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Nobuhiro Iwamatsu * Package name: goval-parser Version : 0.0~git20170813.0.0a0be1d Upstream Author : Yasunari Momoi * URL : https://github.com/ymomoi/goval-parser.git * License : BSD 2-Clause License Programming Lang: G

Re: FTP Policy Development

2018-03-07 Thread Gunnar Wolf
Steve Robbins dijo [Sat, Mar 03, 2018 at 01:15:35PM -0600]: > (...) > To me, one of the puzzling aspects is why the FTP policy work has been so > secretive. The release team has a mailing list, tech committee has a mailing > list. There is Debian Policy list. It doesn't seem in congruence that

Bug#892281: gcc: make PIE opt-out rather than opt-in

2018-03-07 Thread Helmut Grohne
Source: gcc-8 Version: 8-20180218-1 Severity: wishlist We have long transitioned to PIE by default on all release architectures now. Still each gcc-V package tracks the architectures that enable PIE by default in an opt-in list (pie_archs). Since it is the default, PIE is much better supported th

Re: Rant about Debian reproducibility environment

2018-03-07 Thread Steffen Nurpmeso
Ian Jackson wrote: |Steffen Nurpmeso writes ("Re: Rant about Debian reproducibility environment"\ |): |> But despite that and the possibly correct observation that placing |> just about any environmental info in any non-system-dependent |> object you can close the issue that is my rant, but w

Re: Updated proposal for improving the FTP NEW process

2018-03-07 Thread Joerg Jaspert
On 14969 March 1977, Gert Wollny wrote: > Sure thing, I'll give it a try. Since I'm not familiar with the dak > code, would you be so kind to point me to the functions and variables > (if available) that are there to > - extract or hold the bugs listed in the last changelog entry, > - query t

Re: Updated proposal for improving the FTP NEW process

2018-03-07 Thread Adam Borowski
On Wed, Mar 07, 2018 at 08:35:08PM +1100, Ben Finney wrote: > Gert Wollny writes: > > > […] simply asking the peers doesn't make the process very public. > > That is, IIUC, by design and for good reason. > > Before a review of the copyright status of the work is done, we don't > have confidence

Re: Updated proposal for improving the FTP NEW process

2018-03-07 Thread Ian Campbell
On Wed, 2018-03-07 at 08:05 -0600, Steve Robbins wrote: > I think the suggestion of randomized spot checking is meant to > replace - not add - to the present system of checking that penalizes > uploads of existing source but new binaries. So human resources > should not be the issue. Yes, that's

Re: Updated proposal for improving the FTP NEW process

2018-03-07 Thread Chris Lamb
Steve, > I think the suggestion of randomized spot checking is meant to replace - > not add - to the present system of checking that penalizes uploads of > existing source but new binaries. So human resources should not be the > issue. In my experience, time/energy/focus is not as fungible or

Re: Updated proposal for improving the FTP NEW process

2018-03-07 Thread Steve Robbins
I think the suggestion of randomized spot checking is meant to replace - not add - to the present system of checking that penalizes uploads of existing source but new binaries. So human resources should not be the issue. I would imagine that the packages currently being selected are not arbitr

Re: Updated proposal for improving the FTP NEW process

2018-03-07 Thread Steve Robbins
My preferred algorithm is dead simple : if the source package is the same, it is not NEW. Sorry for the top -post. My mobile device client is deficient. On March 6, 2018 11:34:29 AM CST, Bastian Blank wrote: >Hi Steve > >Please don't top-post and fix the length of your lines. > >On Tue, Mar 06

Re: (solved) Re: wireless fail after stretch installation

2018-03-07 Thread Ian Jackson
bw writes ("Re: (solved) Re: wireless fail after stretch installation"): > On Tue, 6 Mar 2018, Ian Jackson wrote: > > I have read the bug logs and Trent Buck's message here > > https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=694068#47 > > seems to suggest a way forward. > > > > Perhaps someone

Re: (solved) Re: wireless fail after stretch installation

2018-03-07 Thread Ian Jackson
bw writes ("Re: (solved) Re: wireless fail after stretch installation"): > On Tue, 6 Mar 2018, Brian wrote: > > One user calls it a "sick joke". After five years and with no attempt > > to rectify the situation, I'm beginning to have sympathy with that view. Debian, like all ordinary software, is

Re: Updated proposal for improving the FTP NEW process

2018-03-07 Thread Gert Wollny
Am Mittwoch, den 07.03.2018, 20:35 +1100 schrieb Ben Finney: > Gert Wollny writes: > > > […] simply asking the peers doesn't make the process very public. > > That is, IIUC, by design and for good reason. > > Before a review of the copyright status of the work is done, we don't > have confiden

Re: Updated proposal for improving the FTP NEW process

2018-03-07 Thread Jonathan McDowell
On Wed, Mar 07, 2018 at 06:02:10AM +, Chris Lamb wrote: > Andrey Rahmatullin wrote: > > > > I know for a fact that quite regularly licence checks on binNEW > > > > packages causes RC bugs to pop up. I acknowledge it may be a > > > > burder for the ftp team, but that reason alone probably deser

Re: Updated proposal for improving the FTP NEW process

2018-03-07 Thread Ben Finney
Gert Wollny writes: > […] simply asking the peers doesn't make the process very public. That is, IIUC, by design and for good reason. Before a review of the copyright status of the work is done, we don't have confidence the Debian Project has permission to redistribute it publicly. If it turns

Re: Updated proposal for improving the FTP NEW process

2018-03-07 Thread Gert Wollny
Am Mittwoch, den 07.03.2018, 08:09 +0100 schrieb Joerg Jaspert: > > If someone comes up with a patch to process-new which does this in a > halfway reliable way, it doesn't need a long time wasting thread on > devel to get it. Sure thing, I'll give it a try. Since I'm not familiar with the dak cod