On Fri, Mar 02, 2018 at 04:15:18AM +0300, kact...@gnu.org wrote:
>
> [2018-03-01 22:54] Ralf Treinen
> > should we really allow for the usage of alias in maintainer scripts?
> >
> > Policy 10.4 says that /bin/sh scripts may assume an interpreter
> > that implements the POSIX standard, plus some
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On Fri, Mar 2, 2018 at 5:54 AM, Ralf Treinen wrote:
> However, /bin/sh may be linked to bash, and bash does alias substitution
> only when in interactive mode but not in batch mode [2]. That is, unless
> a special bash option is set.
>
> ... I think we should
- file a bug against shellcheck askin
On Fri, Mar 2, 2018 at 1:17 AM, Steffen Nurpmeso wrote:
> I try to make it short, but i want to say i am thankful for the
> spark that reproducible-build.org was for me. Even though i think
> it is a pity that $SOURCE_DATE_EPOCH is the sole indicator for
> reproducible environments, since now tha
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On Thu, 2018-03-01 at 09:53 +0100, Didier 'OdyX' Raboud wrote:
> Maybe what we need is a packaged nix and a standardized nix repository.
There is an ITP and RFS:
https://bugs.debian.org/877019
https://bugs.debian.org/877331
I assume Nix/NixOS have a standard repo already.
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pabs
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[2018-03-01 22:54] Ralf Treinen
> should we really allow for the usage of alias in maintainer scripts?
>
> Policy 10.4 says that /bin/sh scripts may assume an interpreter
> that implements the POSIX standard, plus some additional features
> listed in the policy. And the POSIX standards describe
On Thu, 01 Mar 2018 at 19:49:13 +0100, Steffen Nurpmeso wrote:
> Simon McVittie wrote:
> |Why is the kernel version on the machine where s-nail was compiled useful
> |to you?
>
> This is indeed correct, and i have changed $OSENV to go for
> uname(1) -sm instead of -srm.
Continuing that thought
On Fri, 2018-03-02 at 00:45 +0100, Guido Günther wrote:
> Sometimes you connect from a machine that doesn't have the host key yet
> and you see the fingerpring so c'n'p and searching in a web page is
> quicker than ctrl-c, getting the key and reconnecting.
Personally, I think only the DNSSEC or f
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On Wed, 2018-02-28 at 18:14:17 -0500, Marvin Renich wrote:
> * Ian Jackson [180228 17:45]:
> > Georg Faerber writes ("FHS: Where to store user specific plugins / code"):
> > > Currently, we allow users to run / execute their own plugins, stored in
> > > /etc/schleuder/plugins. Obviously, that's no
On Thu, Mar 01, 2018 at 01:41:52PM +0800, Paul Wise wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 1, 2018 at 3:49 AM, Guido Günther wrote:
>
> > It often wished that these pages would show the fingerprints too. Where
> > would that bug need to go? A db.debian.org pseudo package does not seem
> > to exist.
>
> DSA explici
Hi Chris,
On Thu, Mar 01, 2018 at 10:55:10PM +, Chris Lamb wrote:
> > should we really allow for the usage of alias in maintainer scripts?
>
> As an aside, do you have any concrete examples of maintainer scripts
> that do this? A quick look on codesearch.debian.net does not find any
> for m
Hi Ralf,
> should we really allow for the usage of alias in maintainer scripts?
As an aside, do you have any concrete examples of maintainer scripts
that do this? A quick look on codesearch.debian.net does not find any
for me. Any bug references would be interesting too…
Best wishes,
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Hi,
should we really allow for the usage of alias in maintainer scripts?
Policy 10.4 says that /bin/sh scripts may assume an interpreter
that implements the POSIX standard, plus some additional features
listed in the policy. And the POSIX standards describes alias
substitution in shell scripts [
Hello,
On Thu, Mar 01 2018, Didier 'OdyX' Raboud wrote:
> In pretty much the same vein as dh-virtualenv, a possibility would be
> to do install-time build, through triggers for example.
Just to note that the emacsen-common infrastructure does this too, as
another place to look for a working exam
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On Wed, 28 Feb 2018, Alberto Luaces wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I am unable to find a place where the SSH fingerprint of salsa is shown.
> I want to compare it with the one displayed when I try to push some
> changes.
Just for the record weasel (thanks weasel!) implemented sshfp records [1] for
salsa. I
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Hello Simon,
Simon McVittie wrote:
|On Thu, 01 Mar 2018 at 18:17:20 +0100, Steffen Nurpmeso wrote:
|> And, of course, if there is a different kernel version, or
|> a different uname(1) output as such, then how could a dumb end
|> producer[consumer, the author] like S-nail deal with that
On വ്യാഴം 01 മാർച്ച് 2018 10:47 വൈകു, Gunnar Wolf wrote:
> We should not wait for dissent just forever. The issue you mention was
> rejected by ftp-masters, then brought to the TC, then dismissed by the
> TC as not-our-role-to-overrule-delegates, and some more days
> passed. Do you really think the
On Thu, 01 Mar 2018 at 18:17:20 +0100, Steffen Nurpmeso wrote:
> And, of course, if there is a different kernel version, or
> a different uname(1) output as such, then how could a dumb end
> producer[consumer, the author] like S-nail deal with that? We
> hardwire those attributes into the
Hello!
Let me please first introduce myself, my name is Steffen and i am
the maintainer/developer of the "SysV mail/BSD Mail/POSIX mailx"
application S-nail, which is quite happy to have found a Debian
maintainer with Paride Legovini just recently.
I try to make it short, but i want to say i am t
Pirate Praveen dijo [Thu, Mar 01, 2018 at 03:15:42PM +0530]:
> >> 1. If a single ftp master is in disagreement, there should be a team
> >> decision (in previous cases of disagreement also, other team members did
> >> not get involved).
> >
> > I'm lost already, sorry. As I understand the case of
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another option:
-- it is best practice for daemons/services not to run as root. They
should have an application specific user.
-- some tools can be run in a systemish way by a specific user, but
also by other users in a less official way (think web server on a high
port instead of port 80.)
--
Marvin Renich writes ("Re: FHS: Where to store user specific plugins / code"):
> [stuff]
I agree completely with Marvin's message.
Ian.
Pirate Praveen writes ("Re: [Pkg-javascript-devel]
three.js_80+dfsg2-2_amd64.changes REJECTED"):
> On വ്യാഴം 01 മാർച്ച് 2018 03:48 വൈകു, Joerg Jaspert wrote:
> > I wonder why you think "a single ftpmaster". We are a team. We closely
> > coordinate what we do and how we do it. When one of us reject
Holger Levsen writes ("Re: What can Debian do to provide complex applications
to its users?"):
> On Thu, Mar 01, 2018 at 10:26:27AM +0100, Didier 'OdyX' Raboud wrote:
> > Good point: not all versions are desirable; "majors" can be installed in
> > parallel, "minors" are updates to the formers.
>
Didier 'OdyX' Raboud writes ("Re: What can Debian do to provide complex
applications to its users?"):
> Le mercredi, 28 février 2018, 06.06:54 h CET Sean Whitton a écrit :
> > No, but we might often have reason to maintain a small delta. We patch
> > upstream source for all sorts of reasons; it i
Didier 'OdyX' Raboud writes ("Re: What can Debian do to provide complex
applications to its users?"):
> Le mardi, 27 février 2018, 14.48:48 h CET Ian Jackson a écrit :
> > Instead, establish a formal convention about embedding the (stable
> > part of) the version number in the package name. This
On Thu, Mar 01, 2018 at 10:26:27AM +0100, Didier 'OdyX' Raboud wrote:
> Good point: not all versions are desirable; "majors" can be installed in
> parallel, "minors" are updates to the formers.
I dont get this, your minor difference may make a major difference to
me. So if you/we were allowing se
On വ്യാഴം 01 മാർച്ച് 2018 03:47 വൈകു, Vincent Bernat wrote:
> In this specific case, can't you move the symlinks to nodejs-three
> package instead?
>
That is what I did. See
https://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/pkg-javascript/three.js.git/commit/?id=44f5b5e967de805b97f38e69903c88f9a3238cfc
signatur
On വ്യാഴം 01 മാർച്ച് 2018 03:48 വൈകു, Joerg Jaspert wrote:
> On 14963 March 1977, Pirate Praveen wrote:
>
>> 1. If a single ftp master is in disagreement, there should be a team
>> decision (in previous cases of disagreement also, other team members did
>> not get involved).
>
> I wonder why you
On 14963 March 1977, Pirate Praveen wrote:
> 1. If a single ftp master is in disagreement, there should be a team
> decision (in previous cases of disagreement also, other team members did
> not get involved).
I wonder why you think "a single ftpmaster". We are a team. We closely
coordinate what
❦ 1 mars 2018 11:59 +0530, Pirate Praveen :
>> Does other ftp masters agree with this assessment of considering the
>> size of the package as the only criteria to accept or reject a package?
>> I don't agree with forcing other contributors to do extra, non standard,
>> hacks instead of followin
On വ്യാഴം 01 മാർച്ച് 2018 03:24 വൈകു, Chris Lamb wrote:
> Apologies, but this reads like another non-sequitur to me. Why would deciding
> on a number of days before one can assume _no_ dissent make any difference at
> all to the case of three.js given that you are claiming there _is_ dissent?
I on
Le mardi, 27 février 2018, 15.14:02 h CET Simon McVittie a écrit :
> Here is a different straw man, which I think might be similarly effective
> and a lot less work:
>
> On Tue, 27 Feb 2018 at 14:13:41 +0100, Didier 'OdyX' Raboud wrote:
> > As Debian, we
> > are insisting that our releases ideally
Pirate Praveen wrote:
> > I'm lost already, sorry. As I understand the case of three.js's recent
> > rejection, no other ftp-master said anything and thus there cannot be
> > any dissention.
>
> I think it would be better if that is made explicit else how many days
> should someone wait to see no
On വ്യാഴം 01 മാർച്ച് 2018 02:28 വൈകു, Chris Lamb wrote:
> Pirate,
>
>> 1. If a single ftp master is in disagreement, there should be a team
>> decision (in previous cases of disagreement also, other team members did
>> not get involved).
>
> I'm lost already, sorry. As I understand the case of th
Le mercredi, 28 février 2018, 06.06:54 h CET Sean Whitton a écrit :
> > Furthermore, abandon the patch queue approach to Debian package
> > management. We will not be able to maintain a big delta to any of
> > these packages anyway.
>
> No, but we might often have reason to maintain a small delta
Le mardi, 27 février 2018, 14.48:48 h CET Ian Jackson a écrit :
> I have some specific comments:
> > Imagine
> > * a new .vdeb format variant that:
> > ** enables for multiple versions to be installed in parallel, where files
> >are unpacked in a version-specific paths
>
> Instead, establish a
Le jeudi, 1 mars 2018, 07.29:15 h CET Pirate Praveen a écrit :
> 2. CTTE should be able to overrule a delegate when there is a conflict
> just like conflict between two debian developers.
I don't think that's a power the Technical Committee (as a body, or as the
current collection of its members)
Pirate,
> 1. If a single ftp master is in disagreement, there should be a team
> decision (in previous cases of disagreement also, other team members did
> not get involved).
I'm lost already, sorry. As I understand the case of three.js's recent
rejection, no other ftp-master said anything and th
Le jeudi, 1 mars 2018, 06.29:37 h CET Paul Wise a écrit :
> On Tue, Feb 27, 2018 at 9:13 PM, Didier 'OdyX' Raboud wrote:
> > Now, as a strawman proposition, here's what I fiddled with in my mind for
> > some days now:
> This reminds me a bit of Nix or Gentoo Prefix.
Yes, only for the upper layers'
Le mercredi, 28 février 2018, 06.04:27 h CET Sean Whitton a écrit :
> On Tue, Feb 27 2018, Didier 'OdyX' Raboud wrote:
> > ** is restricted to be arch:all (~ shipping interpreter scripts)
>
> There are compiled binary ecosystems that would benefit from your
> proposal, such as Haskell, so could yo
Paul Wise writes:
> On Wed, Feb 28, 2018 at 10:54 PM, Alberto Luaces wrote:
>
>> I am unable to find a place where the SSH fingerprint of salsa is shown.
>> I want to compare it with the one displayed when I try to push some
>> changes.
>
> Please see the FAQ:
>
> https://wiki.debian.org/Salsa/FAQ
Le mercredi, 28 février 2018, 04.57:50 h CET Russell Stuart a écrit :
> On Tue, 2018-02-27 at 14:13 +0100, Didier 'OdyX' Raboud wrote:
> > > - we could ship those applications not as .deb but as container
> > >
> > > and let them have their own lifecycle
> >
> > tl;dr: a new package format is ne
Ian Campbell writes:
> On Thu, 2018-03-01 at 13:40 +0800, Paul Wise wrote:
>> On Wed, Feb 28, 2018 at 11:23 PM, Alberto Luaces wrote:
>>
>> > Great! After passing those keys trough `ssh-keygen -lf`, I get the
>> > confirmation I was looking for.
>>
>> Why do you need ssh-keygen when you can jus
On Thu, 2018-03-01 at 11:59 +0530, Pirate Praveen wrote:
> It seems ftp masters are literally the masters with only a GR powerful
> enough to over turn their decisions. See
> https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=881339#55
This seems correct, from my reading of the Debian constitution.
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