Re: Has Copyright summarizing outlived its usefulness?

2017-12-06 Thread Adam Borowski
On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 11:46:00PM -0600, Steve Robbins wrote: > On Tuesday, November 28, 2017 9:00:10 AM CST Chris Lamb wrote: > > Sorry for the rejection but "Copyright: See individual source files" > > unfortunatley does not meet the high standards we strive for within Debian. > > That is odd.

Re: Has Copyright summarizing outlived its usefulness?

2017-12-06 Thread Russ Allbery
Boyuan Yang <073p...@gmail.com> writes: > Howerver, what we, the distribution maintainers, really care is that > these files do not conflict with our guideline aka DFSG. In this > situation it is the license that matters, not copyright holders. For > large software like linux kernel or libboost, w

Re: Has Copyright summarizing outlived its usefulness?

2017-12-06 Thread Boyuan Yang
在 2017年12月6日星期三 CST 下午11:12:19,Steve Robbins 写道: > On Thursday, November 30, 2017 11:26:31 AM CST Simon McVittie wrote: > > On Wed, 29 Nov 2017 at 23:46:00 -0600, Steve Robbins wrote: > > > On Tuesday, November 28, 2017 9:00:10 AM CST Chris Lamb wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > Sorry for the rej

Re: Has Copyright summarizing outlived its usefulness?

2017-12-06 Thread Steve Robbins
On Thursday, November 30, 2017 11:26:31 AM CST Simon McVittie wrote: > On Wed, 29 Nov 2017 at 23:46:00 -0600, Steve Robbins wrote: > > On Tuesday, November 28, 2017 9:00:10 AM CST Chris Lamb wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > Sorry for the rejection but "Copyright: See individual source files" > > > unf

Why do we list individual copyright holders?

2017-12-06 Thread Steve Robbins
On Wednesday, November 29, 2017 11:46:00 PM CST Steve Robbins wrote: > On Tuesday, November 28, 2017 9:00:10 AM CST Chris Lamb wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Sorry for the rejection but "Copyright: See individual source files" > > unfortunatley does not meet the high standards we strive for within > > Deb

Re: Debian Stretch new user report (vs Linux Mint)

2017-12-06 Thread Paul Wise
On Thu, Dec 7, 2017 at 11:39 AM, Adam Borowski wrote: > It might be less disruptive to add a new field like Subsection; that'd avoid > the need to change any of archive tools -- including ones not used on the > official archive, like reprepro. ... > Because Section: implies an unique section, whil

Re: Debian Stretch new user report (vs Linux Mint)

2017-12-06 Thread Adam Borowski
On Wed, Dec 06, 2017 at 10:05:51AM +0800, Paul Wise wrote: > On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 1:46 AM, Didier 'OdyX' Raboud wrote: > > > * splitting non-free in subsets; > > * adding a non-free-firmware area; > > I think we don't want either of these, instead we should *add* > additional Packages files for

Re: ISO download difficult

2017-12-06 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Wed, Dec 06, 2017 at 10:55:20AM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote: I have no opinion about win32-loader since I've never used it and would never use it (I don't even have any family members who would use it or be able to use it), so I'm really unqualified to comment. What you describe sounds great fo

Re: ISO download difficult

2017-12-06 Thread Russ Allbery
Paul Wise writes: > On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 2:58 PM, Russ Allbery wrote: >> I'm certainly not arguing for removing this as an option. I am arguing >> for challenging ourselves to do better than that for as many cases as >> we can, because that's not a fun experience. Even those of us who >> thor

Re: ISO download difficult

2017-12-06 Thread Alf Gaida
Russ, thanks, convinced. On 06.12.2017 00:15, Russ Allbery wrote: > It's not quite that simple. Once it's included in the default > sources.list, those packages show up in apt-cache search and other tools, > or in aptitude browsing. Then, when looking for a package to solve a > particular proble

Re: Debian Stretch new user report (vs Linux Mint)

2017-12-06 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Mon, Dec 04, 2017 at 04:29:43PM +0200, Lars Wirzenius wrote: > Myself, I would prefer us to keep both the free-software-only ISO and > the non-free ISO with firmware and other things needed to get typical > modern hardware running, and improve the discoverability of the > latter. I think we can

Re: recommends for apparmor in newest linux-image-4.13

2017-12-06 Thread Vincas Dargis
On 2017-12-06 12:24, Laurent Bigonville wrote: I feel that having Apparmor running and not doing anything will give people a false sense of security, on my test machine almost nothing was confined Yeah, we really need much more working profiles ready to be shipped... Thoguh I believe our AppAr

Bug#883686: ITP: clonalorigin -- inference of homologous recombination in bacteria using whole genome sequences

2017-12-06 Thread Andreas Tille
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Andreas Tille * Package name: clonalorigin Version : 1.0 Upstream Author : Xavier Didelot * URL : https://github.com/xavierdidelot/clonalorigin * License : GPL Programming Lang: C++ Description : inference of hom

Re: ISO download difficult

2017-12-06 Thread Michael Stone
On Wed, Dec 06, 2017 at 12:04:21PM +0800, Paul Wise wrote: On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 11:52 AM, Michael Stone wrote: you want debian to be uninstallable on some hardware without a copy of windows? that doesn't seem like a step forward or even a desirable goal. Of course not, that would be a ridic

Re: ISO download difficult

2017-12-06 Thread Steve McIntyre
thib...@debian.org > >Having the two download links side by side on the front page would >already be a major improvement, but it would still be very confusing for >our users. That's why I would prefer to put the "beware of the leopard" >sign inside the install medium, and provide only one medium

Re: recommends for apparmor in newest linux-image-4.13

2017-12-06 Thread intrigeri
Hi Laurent, Laurent Bigonville: > The SELinux policy could be altered to either run everything that we know is > not > ready to be confined in an unconfined domain or put that domain in permissive > (which > would result in a lot of denials being logged), so it's possible to behave > more or >

Re: Re: recommends for apparmor in newest linux-image-4.13

2017-12-06 Thread Laurent Bigonville
Theodore Ts'o wrote: On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 11:51:55AM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote: > Michael Stone writes: > > On Tue, Nov 28, 2017 at 08:22:50PM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote: > > >> Ubuntu has successfully shipped with AppArmor enabled. > > > For all the packages in debian? Cool! That will sav

Bug#883657: ITP: node-locate-path -- Get the first path that exists on disk of multiple paths

2017-12-06 Thread Paolo Greppi
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Paolo Greppi * Package name: node-locate-path Version : 2.0.0 Upstream Author : Sindre Sorhus (sindresorhus.com) * URL : https://github.com/sindresorhus/locate-path#readme * License : Expat Programming Lang: JavaScript