Re: Whether remotely running software is considered "software" for Debian.

2017-08-29 Thread Ben Finney
Andrey Rahmatullin writes: > On Wed, Aug 30, 2017 at 01:51:16AM -0400, Anthony DeRobertis wrote: > > Policy is not the Social Contract, Policy is not the Constitution. > > Policy can be relatively easily changed and is supposed to largely > > document actual practices. So really, Policy needs to

Re: Mail templates

2017-08-29 Thread Ana Guerrero Lopez
On Wed, Aug 30, 2017 at 08:43:30AM +0800, Paul Wise wrote: > On Wed, Aug 30, 2017 at 3:52 AM, Ana Guerrero Lopez wrote: > > On Tue, Aug 29, 2017 at 09:19:23PM +0200, Anon Andme wrote: > >> Please stop sending emails to this address. I did not subscribe to this > > I replied this email off-list. >

Re: Whether remotely running software is considered "software" for Debian.

2017-08-29 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
On Wed, Aug 30, 2017 at 01:51:16AM -0400, Anthony DeRobertis wrote: > > Actually, I haven't seen anyone citing the following part of policy > > 2.2.1: "None of the packages in the main archive area require software > > outside of that area to function." > > > > If we agree that "functioning softwa

Re: Whether remotely running software is considered "software" for Debian.

2017-08-29 Thread Paul Wise
On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 7:59 PM, Dr. Bas Wijnen wrote: > On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 12:31:15PM +0200, Philipp Kern wrote: >> I think the sanity check that fails today is a) free implementations of >> the RAR algorithm exist so this is unnecessary > > I'm not familiar with the details, but I know some

Re: Whether remotely running software is considered "software" for Debian.

2017-08-29 Thread Ben Finney
Anthony DeRobertis writes: > Policy is not the Social Contract, Policy is not the Constitution. > Policy can be relatively easily changed and is supposed to largely > document actual practices. So really, Policy needs to be amended. And > attempting to language-lawyer Policy like this is pointles

Re: Whether remotely running software is considered "software" for Debian.

2017-08-29 Thread Anthony DeRobertis
On 08/29/2017 03:25 AM, Carsten Leonhardt wrote: Actually, I haven't seen anyone citing the following part of policy 2.2.1: "None of the packages in the main archive area require software outside of that area to function." If we agree that "functioning software" does more than print an error or

Bug#806513: ITP: defcon -- set of UFO based objects for use in font editing applications

2017-08-29 Thread 魏銘廷
retitle 806513 ITP: defcon -- set of UFO based objects for use in font editing applications owner 806513 ! thanks Since its dependency ufolib is going to be uploaded soon, I am going to package this. Yao Wei signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: Mail templates

2017-08-29 Thread Paul Wise
On Wed, Aug 30, 2017 at 3:52 AM, Ana Guerrero Lopez wrote: > On Tue, Aug 29, 2017 at 09:19:23PM +0200, Anon Andme wrote: >> Please stop sending emails to this address. I did not subscribe to this > I replied this email off-list. It might be simpler to respond to unsubscribe requests by pasting the

Re: DPL election terms 1 year was Re: X facts about Debian - some fact checking and looking for ideas.

2017-08-29 Thread Jonathan McDowell
On Tue, Aug 29, 2017 at 11:37:09PM +0530, shirish शिरीष wrote: > Dear all, > > Please CC me if somebody puts a reply > > Another query but of more recent vintage is the idea of having yearly > elections for choosing DPL. Now while sadly Ian Murdock is not there > but am sure there are more than e

Mail templates

2017-08-29 Thread Ana Guerrero Lopez
Hi everybody, I replied this email off-list. In the publicity team we have started recently a git repo with email templates for replying this type of requests. We receive emails likes this often in pr...@debian.org and I'm sure we're not the only team. The git repo is at https://anonscm.debian.or

Re: Bits from the New Member Process

2017-08-29 Thread Anon Andme
Please stop sending emails to this address. I did not subscribe to this On 25 August 2017 at 14:53, Enrico Zini wrote: > # nm.debian.org updates > > At DebConf17, people from New Member Front Desk, keyring-maint and MIA > teams met and worked on developing and deploying various new things on > n

DPL election terms 1 year was Re: X facts about Debian - some fact checking and looking for ideas.

2017-08-29 Thread shirish शिरीष
Dear all, Please CC me if somebody puts a reply Another query but of more recent vintage is the idea of having yearly elections for choosing DPL. Now while sadly Ian Murdock is not there but am sure there are more than enough people who know and remember why Ian Murdock felt the need to have year

Re: Question about dpkg Re: X facts about Debian - some fact checking and looking for ideas.

2017-08-29 Thread Jeremy Stanley
On 2017-08-29 23:26:55 +0530 (+0530), shirish शिरीष wrote: [...] > From the wikipedia page it seems the motivation came from SLS - a > derivative of Slackware. [...] Minor correction for you: Slackware was borne out of SLS and not the other way around: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Softlandin

Question about dpkg Re: X facts about Debian - some fact checking and looking for ideas.

2017-08-29 Thread shirish शिरीष
Dear all, Please CC me when answering or putting something on the thread. When I started using ubuntu and then later Debian one of the first tools I fell in love with was dpkg. Although nowadays we have multiple tools like apt, aptitude, one of the biggest features of dpkg (which is replicated

Bug#873607: ITP: odb-api -- Observational Data processing API for meteorology

2017-08-29 Thread Alastair McKinstry
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Alastair McKinstry * Package name: odb-api Version : 0.17.1 Upstream Author : European Centre for Medium-Range Forecasts (ECMWF) * URL : http://software.ecmwdf.int/wiki/display/ODBAPI * License : Apache Programming Lang

Bug#873594: ITP: flatpak-builder -- Flatpak application building helper

2017-08-29 Thread Simon McVittie
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Simon McVittie * Package name: flatpak-builder Version : 0.9.8+$n_commits (until a release is made) Upstream Author : Alexander Larsson and others * URL : https://github.com/flatpak/flatpak-builder * License : LGPL Prog

Re: Whether remotely running software is considered "software" for Debian.

2017-08-29 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
On Tue, Aug 29, 2017 at 11:03:36AM +0200, Nikolaus Rath wrote: > > My position is that it should acceptable for a program in main to require > > a non-free service, or data, or whatever, as long as that program itself > > is free and running it doesn't compromise the freedom of the user. > > contri

Re: Whether remotely running software is considered "software" for Debian.

2017-08-29 Thread Nikolaus Rath
On Aug 28 2017, Andrey Rahmatullin wrote: > My position is that it should acceptable for a program in main to require > a non-free service, or data, or whatever, as long as that program itself > is free and running it doesn't compromise the freedom of the user. > contrib should be for wrappers, do

Re: Whether remotely running software is considered "software" for Debian.

2017-08-29 Thread Ben Finney
Carsten Leonhardt writes: > Actually, I haven't seen anyone citing the following part of policy > 2.2.1: "None of the packages in the main archive area require software > outside of that area to function." Yes, that's been raised. I've responded to that at https://lists.debian.org/msgid-search/8

Re: Whether remotely running software is considered "software" for Debian.

2017-08-29 Thread Carsten Leonhardt
Bernd Zeimetz writes: > On 08/12/2017 07:35 PM, Marco d'Itri wrote: >> On Aug 12, "Dr. Bas Wijnen" wrote: >> >>> Which would be a great example of software that is free interacting with >>> software that is non-free. Thus the package with this as its main purpose >>> should live in contrib. T