Re: Overall bitrot, package reviews and fast(er) unmaintained package removals

2016-04-06 Thread Ole Streicher
"Potter, Tim (HPE Linux Support)" writes: > On 7 Apr 2016, at 11:18 AM, Ben Hutchings wrote: >> You are missing the point, which is that while they still build with >> the new toolchain (possibly after a developer without intimate >> knowledge of the program makes a best-effort fix) we don't know

Re: Overall bitrot, package reviews and fast(er) unmaintained package removals

2016-04-06 Thread Neil Williams
On Thu, 7 Apr 2016 01:05:48 +0200 Steffen Möller wrote: > On 06/04/16 21:19, Wookey wrote: > >> > .. perhaps be more aggressive in > >> > removing software that's no longer useful and just lies in the > >> > archive dormant. > > The fact that Debian has a lot of software is a genuine benefit. >

Re: Overall bitrot, package reviews and fast(er) unmaintained package removals

2016-04-06 Thread Neil Williams
On Thu, 7 Apr 2016 01:36:51 + "Potter, Tim (HPE Linux Support)" wrote: > On 7 Apr 2016, at 11:18 AM, Ben Hutchings wrote: > > On Thu, 2016-04-07 at 01:02 +, Potter, Tim (HPE Linux Support) > > wrote: > >> On 7 Apr 2016, at 10:52 AM, Ben Hutchings > >> wrote: > >>> Given the low qual

Re: Overall bitrot, package reviews and fast(er) unmaintained package removals

2016-04-06 Thread Potter, Tim (HPE Linux Support)
On 7 Apr 2016, at 11:18 AM, Ben Hutchings wrote: > On Thu, 2016-04-07 at 01:02 +, Potter, Tim (HPE Linux Support) > wrote: >> On 7 Apr 2016, at 10:52 AM, Ben Hutchings >> wrote: >>> Given the low quality and lack of unit tests in many scientific >>> applications, how confident can we be that

Re: Overall bitrot, package reviews and fast(er) unmaintained package removals

2016-04-06 Thread Potter, Tim (HPE Linux Support)
On 7 Apr 2016, at 10:52 AM, Ben Hutchings wrote: > Given the low quality and lack of unit tests in many scientific > applications, how confident can we be that the 'old' packages (that > have now built with newer toolchains and libraries) actually still > produce the same results they used to? I

Re: Overall bitrot, package reviews and fast(er) unmaintained package removals

2016-04-06 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Thu, 2016-04-07 at 01:02 +, Potter, Tim (HPE Linux Support) wrote: > On 7 Apr 2016, at 10:52 AM, Ben Hutchings > wrote: > > > > > Given the low quality and lack of unit tests in many scientific > > applications, how confident can we be that the 'old' packages (that > > have now built with

Re: Overall bitrot, package reviews and fast(er) unmaintained package removals

2016-04-06 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Thu, 2016-04-07 at 01:05 +0200, Steffen Möller wrote: > > On 06/04/16 21:19, Wookey wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > .. perhaps be more aggressive in > > > > removing software that's no longer useful and just lies in the archive > > > > dormant. > > The fact that Debian has a lot of software

Bug#820256: ITP: espr -- Building performance modelling software

2016-04-06 Thread Wookey
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Wookey * Package name: esp-r Version : 12.3 Upstream Author : Energy Systems Research Unit, University of Strathcycle * URL : http://www.esru.strath.ac.uk/Programs/ESP-r_central.htm * License : GPL2+ Programming Lang: C

Re: Overall bitrot, package reviews and fast(er) unmaintained package removals

2016-04-06 Thread Brian May
Felipe Sateler writes: >> - no upload in a long time > > s/upload/maintainer upload/ In the past I have maintained some important packages by doing regular NMUs when the maintainer is not responsive (including emails asking to take over the package). So just because the *maintainer* hasn't made

Re: Overall bitrot, package reviews and fast(er) unmaintained package removals

2016-04-06 Thread Steffen Möller
On 06/04/16 21:19, Wookey wrote: >> > .. perhaps be more aggressive in >> > removing software that's no longer useful and just lies in the archive >> > dormant. > The fact that Debian has a lot of software is a genuine benefit. Just > because stuff is old, does not mean it is no longer useful. Th

Bug#820245: ITP: groestlcoin -- peer-to-peer network based digital currency

2016-04-06 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Jonas Smedegaard -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 * Package name: groestlcoin Version : 2.11.0 Upstream Author : The Groestlcoin developers * URL : http://www.groestlcoin.org/ * License : Expat Programming

Re: Overall bitrot, package reviews and fast(er) unmaintained package removals

2016-04-06 Thread Wookey
+++ Ondřej Surý [2016-04-06 00:18 +0200]: > Hey, > > while doing some work on PHP transitions, saving courier-imap, finally > packaging seafile since they finally stopped violating GPL, I found a > quite a lot of bitrot in some (mostly leaf) packages. Packages untouched > for years after initial u

Re: MBF Announcement: Transition libpng12 -> libpng16

2016-04-06 Thread Tobias Frost
Hallo -devel, Note that libpng1.6 is now in sid, so the libpng 1.6 transition has finally started.  To keep the transition short, please keep an eye on packages; of course we will also do NMUs when neeeded. The transistion tracker is here: https://release.debian.org/transitions/html/libpng1.6.ht

Bug#820217: ITP: mercurial-extension-utils -- This module contains group of reusable functions for writing Mercurial extensions.

2016-04-06 Thread Christoph Mathys
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Christoph Mathys * Package name: mercurial-extension-utils Version : 1.2.0 Upstream Author : Marcin Kasperski * URL : https://pypi.python.org/pypi/mercurial_extension_utils * License : BSD Programming Lang: Python De

Re: Overall bitrot, package reviews and fast(er) unmaintained package removals

2016-04-06 Thread Neil Williams
On Wed, 6 Apr 2016 15:27:48 + (UTC) Felipe Sateler wrote: > On Wed, 06 Apr 2016 00:18:10 +0200, Ondřej Surý wrote: > > > Hey, > > > > while doing some work on PHP transitions, saving courier-imap, > > finally packaging seafile since they finally stopped violating GPL, > > I found a quite a

Re: Overall bitrot, package reviews and fast(er) unmaintained package removals

2016-04-06 Thread Felipe Sateler
On Wed, 06 Apr 2016 00:18:10 +0200, Ondřej Surý wrote: > Hey, > > while doing some work on PHP transitions, saving courier-imap, finally > packaging seafile since they finally stopped violating GPL, I found a > quite a lot of bitrot in some (mostly leaf) packages. Packages untouched > for years a

Re: Overall bitrot, package reviews and fast(er) unmaintained package removals

2016-04-06 Thread Craig Small
On Wed, Apr 6, 2016 at 3:26 PM Paul Wise wrote: > Sounds a lot like some of these should be added to bapase: > > https://udd.debian.org/cgi-bin/bapase.cgi I think you mean https://udd.debian.org/bapase.cgi but yes, looks like a good idea. - Craig -- Craig Small (@smallsees) http://enc.com.a

Re: Packages without long term stable releases

2016-04-06 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Tue, 05 Apr 2016, Simon McVittie wrote: > This sounds quite a lot like the "rolling" suite that gets proposed > every few years, with the possible exception that some proposals > for "rolling" have had it bypass unstable while unstable is frozen, > and it sounds as though this doesn't. > > I th

Re: Remove clamav-unofficial-sigs

2016-04-06 Thread Paul Wise
On Wed, Apr 6, 2016 at 3:47 PM, Mathieu Parent wrote: > 2016-04-06 6:55 GMT+02:00 Paul Wise: >> Personally I am still waiting for clamav freshclam to properly support >> third-party signatures, so clamav-unofficial-sigs can be a config file. > > Is there a tracking bug for this? How can we help? T

Re: Remove clamav-unofficial-sigs

2016-04-06 Thread Mathieu Parent
2016-04-06 6:55 GMT+02:00 Paul Wise : > On Wed, 2016-04-06 at 00:35 +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote: I didn't knew about those third-party signatures. This is a good news for me. >> I was discussing this yeasterday with Paul. >> While the current package has some issues I believe that it is already >>