Bug#809705: general: let people use non-free software but opt-out of non-open software

2016-01-02 Thread Christian PERRIER
Quoting Philippe Cerfon (philc...@gmail.com): > Package: general > Severity: wishlist > Tags: security > > Hi. > > I think Debian has the following two problems (or rather its security > conscious users) with respect to software that gets into the system: No idea whether what you're proposing i

Bug#809705: general: let people use non-free software but opt-out of non-open software

2016-01-02 Thread Philippe Cerfon
Package: general Severity: wishlist Tags: security Hi. I think Debian has the following two problems (or rather its security conscious users) with respect to software that gets into the system: First, more and more packages install software which sneaks around the package manager (and thus typi

Bug#809704: ITP: libhtml5parser-java -- validator.nu HTML parser implementation in Java

2016-01-02 Thread Markus Koschany
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Markus Koschany * Package name: libhtml5parser-java Version : 1.4 Upstream Author : Henri Sivonen * URL : https://about.validator.nu/htmlparser/ * License : Expat, BSD-3-clause, GPL-2+, MPL-1.1, LGPL-2.1+, LGPL-3+ Progr

Re: Bug#807019: tracking bin-num - broken unison due to binnmu upload

2016-01-02 Thread Brian May
Alexander Wirt writes: >> This should be integrated in the backports.d.o repositories. > Backports is not for fixing bugs in stable. I think there is a misunderstanding here. This is not about fixing unison in stable. "unison" 2.40.102-2 in stable works fine. It is not broken. There is nothing

Re: support for merged /usr in Debian

2016-01-02 Thread 陳昌倬
On Sun, Jan 03, 2016 at 01:23:14AM -0200, Martinx - ジェームズ wrote: > It violates the FHS 2.3 standards. > > http://refspecs.linuxfoundation.org/FHS_2.3/fhs-2.3.html Can you cite the requirement in FHS 2.3 which is violated by usrmerge. I only found the requirements that allow us to do usrmerge via

Re: support for merged /usr in Debian

2016-01-02 Thread Martinx - ジェームズ
On 3 January 2016 at 00:25, Daniel Reurich wrote: > On 03/01/16 07:00, Marco d'Itri wrote: >> On Jan 02, Geert Stappers wrote: >> >>> A design with "whole OS on /usr" breaks the good pratice of having >>> tools like /bin/mount and /sbin/ifconfig available when /usr is unavailable. >> This is not

Re: support for merged /usr in Debian

2016-01-02 Thread Daniel Reurich
On 03/01/16 07:00, Marco d'Itri wrote: > On Jan 02, Geert Stappers wrote: > >> A design with "whole OS on /usr" breaks the good pratice of having >> tools like /bin/mount and /sbin/ifconfig available when /usr is unavailable. > This is not a good practice but just an historical accident: for det

Re: support for merged /usr in Debian

2016-01-02 Thread Michael Biebl
Am 02.01.2016 um 22:08 schrieb Marc Haber: > On Sat, 2 Jan 2016 18:42:14 +0100, Geert Stappers > wrote: >> To me is this "TheUsrMerge" something like among >> * "it is hard too to explain to have /sbin/fsck and not /usr/sbin/fsck" >> * "there was a question about /bin/kill and /usr/bin/killall be

Re: support for merged /usr in Debian

2016-01-02 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Jan 02, Marc Haber wrote: > What is the "upgrade path" for an older system that has /usr split > off? Will it just stop being bootable after upgrading? It just needs to use an initramfs. A standalone /usr without an initramfs IS ALREADY NOT SUPPORTED by systemd. This is not relevant for merge

Re: support for merged /usr in Debian

2016-01-02 Thread Marc Haber
On Sat, 2 Jan 2016 18:25:21 +0100, m...@linux.it (Marco d'Itri) wrote: >On Jan 02, Joerg Jaspert wrote: >> No, /etc can be nicely ro. That is, /, /usr, /etc, ... can be. The log >> storage and the user homes, as well as a tmp filesystem rw, rest ro. >> Works nicely, I have 4 of such systems runnin

Re: support for merged /usr in Debian

2016-01-02 Thread Marc Haber
On Sat, 2 Jan 2016 18:42:14 +0100, Geert Stappers wrote: >To me is this "TheUsrMerge" something like among >* "it is hard too to explain to have /sbin/fsck and not /usr/sbin/fsck" >* "there was a question about /bin/kill and /usr/bin/killall being >inconsequent" >* "we could not agree if p{erl,y

Re: support for merged /usr in Debian

2016-01-02 Thread Marc Haber
On Sat, 2 Jan 2016 19:00:17 +0100, m...@linux.it (Marco d'Itri) wrote: >On Jan 02, Geert Stappers wrote: >> A design with "whole OS on /usr" breaks the good pratice of having >> tools like /bin/mount and /sbin/ifconfig available when /usr is unavailable. >This is not a good practice but just an h

Re: Renaming the Debian Project

2016-01-02 Thread gaffa
You are either playing an artificial character or you are simply not very good at reading people and interpreting text. I hope you find more constructive things to do in the future. I hope you find happiness and love. Thank you Ian, for initiating this great community. Your legacy will not be for

Re: support for merged /usr in Debian

2016-01-02 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Jan 02, Geert Stappers wrote: > A design with "whole OS on /usr" breaks the good pratice of having > tools like /bin/mount and /sbin/ifconfig available when /usr is unavailable. This is not a good practice but just an historical accident: for details see http://lists.busybox.net/pipermail/bu

Re: support for merged /usr in Debian

2016-01-02 Thread Geert Stappers
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On Fri, Jan 01, 2016 at 03:53:03PM +0100, Marco d'Itri wrote: > On Jan 01, Ian Jackson wrote: > > > Someone has already mentioned mounting /usr ro. But one generally has > > to keep /etc rw. I don't think that the right way to address this is > >

Re: support for merged /usr in Debian

2016-01-02 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Jan 02, Joerg Jaspert wrote: > No, /etc can be nicely ro. That is, /, /usr, /etc, ... can be. The log > storage and the user homes, as well as a tmp filesystem rw, rest ro. > Works nicely, I have 4 of such systems running. Just to be clear: on a merged /usr system nothing prevents you from ha

Bug#809664: ITP: seelablet -- software for the SEELablet experiment box

2016-01-02 Thread Georges Khaznadar
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Georges Khaznadar * Package name: seelablet Version : 0.1.9 Upstream Author : Jithin B.P. * URL : https://github.com/jithinbp/SEELablet * License : GPL-3+ Programming Lang: Python Description : software for the S

Re: support for merged /usr in Debian

2016-01-02 Thread Joerg Jaspert
On 14173 March 1977, Ian Jackson wrote: >> Is there any use case that requires supporting unmerged systems? > Someone has already mentioned mounting /usr ro. But one generally has > to keep /etc rw. I don't think that the right way to address this is > to make /etc a mount point. No, /etc can be