The unusual problems with the g++-5 transition are:
Another big one is the descision was taken NOT to
change the sonames when making sub-transitions. I
presume this was done to avoid deviating from upstream
sonmaes but the flip side has been that major
sub-transitions have become "all or nothing"
On 18/09/15 22:23, Joerg Jaspert wrote:
> what the heck bikesheds are.
What you seem to not be understanding, possibly because English is not
your first language, is that anything associated with the term
'bikeshed' is very *negative*.
They have strong derogatory connotations, so much so that I
On 14067 March 1977, Joerg Jaspert wrote:
> Second, the reason why I started writing: I defined the possible
> commands for the upcoming bikeshed feature, which use the same command
> interface as the DM commands do.
And there has been the very valid point that I haven't explained here
what the he
On 14068 March 1977, Ian Jackson wrote:
> It's a lovely joke but unfortunately the word `bikeshed' already means
> something else in a computer/geeky context. So these things
> shouldn't be called bikesheds for the same reason that a computer
> shouldn't be called `down' or `internet'.
> If we wan
+++ Jakub Wilk [2015-09-18 18:52 +0200]:
> * Robert Edmonds , 2015-09-17, 15:04:
> >Wookey wrote:
> "less"
& "most" (most is great and hardly ever installed on a random box, which is a
pity. Try it.)
Wookey
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* Robert Edmonds , 2015-09-17, 15:04:
Wookey wrote:
[...]
Bikeshed is an appropriate name, in the unix tradition of mildly
amusing/punny names.
Which tradition would that be?
Out of the few hundred or so Unix [0] and GNU [1] commands listed on
Wikipedia, the only vaguely amusing/punning nam
* Joerg Jaspert , 2015-09-17, 13:42:
I defined the possible commands for the upcoming bikeshed feature,
It's the first time I hear about the "bikeshed feature". Perhaps you
should explain the term first.
(Believe it or not, most debian-devel readers were not at DebConf.)
But whatever it's s
* Lars Wirzenius , 2015-09-18, 15:51:
Should we leave this naming to the people actually doing the work to
implement this?
Indeed! It's a fundamental rule of Debian do-o-cracy that you should
never listen to people who are not doing the work, as they can't
possibly be right about anything.
Hello everyone,
# Elektra 0.8.12
- 0.8.12 packaged+migrated to testing
(https://packages.qa.debian.org/e/elektra/news/20150726T155000Z.html),
thanks to Pino Toscano
So trying Elektra is only one apt-get away for you!
# Elektra 0.8.13
For a html site visit:
http://doc.libelektra.org/news/3c
On Sep 18 2015, Lars Wirzenius wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 18, 2015 at 01:29:22PM +0100, Wookey wrote:
>> +++ Colin Tuckley [2015-09-18 12:22 +0100]:
>> > We certainly (imho) don't want anything in Debian given that description
>>
>>
>>
>> Oh yes we do!
>>
>>
>
> Should we leave this naming to the p
On 2015-09-18 14:03:17 +0100 (+0100), Ian Jackson wrote:
[...]
> they could be called some other kind of shed or hut or something.
[...]
While marvellously entertaining, I can only hope that the irony of
this protracted debate is not entirely lost on its participants.
--
Jeremy Stanley
Wookey writes ("Re: DAK Commands for Bikesheds"):
> It wasn't supposed to be a joke. Bikeshed is an appropriate name, in
> the unix tradition of mildly amusing/punny names.
It's a lovely joke but unfortunately the word `bikeshed' already means
something else in a computer/geeky context. So these
On Fri, Sep 18, 2015 at 01:29:22PM +0100, Wookey wrote:
> +++ Colin Tuckley [2015-09-18 12:22 +0100]:
> > We certainly (imho) don't want anything in Debian given that description
>
>
>
> Oh yes we do!
>
>
Should we leave this naming to the people actually doing the work to
implement this?
Al
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On Sep 18, "Iain R. Learmonth" wrote:
> I would have no idea where to start for quantum safe crypto, and while this
> is an issue for upstreams mainly, getting an idea of where Debian is in this
> landscape currently and identifying the most important areas that need work
> would be a worthwhile
+++ Colin Tuckley [2015-09-18 12:22 +0100]:
> We certainly (imho) don't want anything in Debian given that description
Oh yes we do!
(Possibly another British tradition that will be somewhat mysterious to the
rest of the world :-)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pantomime#Performance_conventio
On 18/09/15 12:41, Iain R. Learmonth wrote:
> I would have no idea where to start for quantum safe crypto, and while this
> is an issue for upstreams mainly, getting an idea of where Debian is in this
> landscape currently and identifying the most important areas that need work
> would be a worthwh
Hi,
On Fri, Sep 18, 2015 at 10:31:05AM +0200, Paul Wise wrote:
> On Fri, 18 Sep 2015 03:42:07 +0300 Victor Porton wrote:
> > We should prepare that invention of quantum computers may break
> > SSH, HTTPS, PGP, and other encryptions we use in practice.
Nice try, NSA.
https://www.nsa.gov/ia/progra
Someone wrote (I can't work out who in the nested quotes):
> There is a strong British tradition, exported to a range of other
> countries, of engineers toiling away in garden sheds, inventing
> stuff - be it cars, engines, radios, metalwork, carpentry ...
> anything someone can produce which req
On Fri, Sep 18, 2015 at 12:33 PM, Geert Stappers wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 18, 2015 at 12:17:22PM +0200, Mathias Behrle wrote:
>> * Neil Williams: " Re: DAK Commands for Bikesheds" (Thu, 17 Sep 2015
>> 17:44:11 +0100):
>> > On Thu, 17 Sep 2015 17:20:21 +0100 Dominic Hargreaves wrote:
>> >
>> > There i
On Fri, Sep 18, 2015 at 12:17:22PM +0200, Mathias Behrle wrote:
> * Neil Williams: " Re: DAK Commands for Bikesheds" (Thu, 17 Sep 2015 17:44:11
> +0100):
> > On Thu, 17 Sep 2015 17:20:21 +0100 Dominic Hargreaves wrote:
> >
> > There is a strong British tradition, exported to a range of other
> >
* Neil Williams: " Re: DAK Commands for Bikesheds" (Thu, 17 Sep 2015 17:44:11
+0100):
> On Thu, 17 Sep 2015 17:20:21 +0100
> Dominic Hargreaves wrote:
>
> > On Thu, Sep 17, 2015 at 04:39:43PM +0100, Wookey wrote:
> > > +++ Raphael Hertzog [2015-09-17 14:41 +0200]:
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > >
On Fri, 18 Sep 2015 03:42:07 +0300 Victor Porton wrote:
> We should prepare that invention of quantum computers may break
> SSH, HTTPS, PGP, and other encryptions we use in practice.
This would be a job for the upstream developers of the software we have
in Debian that supports SSH/HTTPS/PGP etc.
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