Re: Metapackage dependencies: "Depends" or "Recommends"?

2015-07-29 Thread David Kalnischkies
On Wed, Jul 29, 2015 at 10:45:01AM -0700, Nikolaus Rath wrote: > The only think it doesn't yet do is that if > > - a is automatically installed > - b is automatically installed > - c is manually installed and depends on a|b > > Either a or b can be removed. But I don't think apt* handled that eit

Re: sbuild just hangs

2015-07-29 Thread Johannes Schauer
Hi, Quoting Nikolaus Rath (2015-07-30 06:04:39) > I haven't found any sbuild mailing list, so I'm hoping someone here is able > to help. sbuild is team maintained now by buildd-tools-de...@lists.alioth.debian.org which is probably also the mailing list you might want to contact about this. > I'm

Re: Ad-hoc survey of existing Debian git integration tools

2015-07-29 Thread Vincent Bernat
❦ 30 juillet 2015 01:09 +0100, Ian Jackson  : >> There is a patch management system but I think that most people (at >> least me) are just using gbp with plain/normal quilt. > > Do your published git branches contain the patches-applied or > patches-unapplied tree ? Without using "gbp pq", the p

Re: Heads up: Upcoming dpkg-buildpackage -j precedence change

2015-07-29 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi! On Wed, 2015-05-13 at 14:21:54 +0200, Guillem Jover wrote: > On Tue, 2015-05-12 at 10:02:27 +0100, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > > On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 08:40:16PM +0200, Guillem Jover wrote: > > > $ make -jN -f debian/rules build > > > > > > and > > > > > > $ DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS=parallel=N debi

sbuild just hangs

2015-07-29 Thread Nikolaus Rath
Hello, I haven't found any sbuild mailing list, so I'm hoping someone here is able to help. I'm trying to build a debian package with sbuild, but when running it just hangs: , | $ sbuild | [...] | ╔══╗ | ║ python-ll

Re: How to deal with fixed but open bugs

2015-07-29 Thread Steve Langasek
Hi Nikolaus, On Wed, Jul 29, 2015 at 08:12:57PM -0700, Nikolaus Rath wrote: > I'm at a loss how to best use debbugs, I hope someone can offer some > advice / best practices. > I'm looking at the bug overview page for src:python3-llfuse > (https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?src=python-l

Re: How to deal with fixed but open bugs

2015-07-29 Thread Russ Allbery
Nikolaus Rath writes: > I'm looking at the bug overview page for src:python3-llfuse > (https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?src=python-llfuse). The > first thing it lists is the apparently nasty grave bug #775056. > However, this bug only exists in wheezy, it's fixed in both jessie and

How to deal with fixed but open bugs

2015-07-29 Thread Nikolaus Rath
Hello, I'm at a loss how to best use debbugs, I hope someone can offer some advice / best practices. I'm looking at the bug overview page for src:python3-llfuse (https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?src=python-llfuse). The first thing it lists is the apparently nasty grave bug #775056.

Re: Ad-hoc survey of existing Debian git integration tools

2015-07-29 Thread Ian Jackson
Simon McVittie writes ("Re: Ad-hoc survey of existing Debian git integration tools"): > Yes ish, but with the orig/diff structure the way it is, the preferred > form for modifying a non-native Debian package seems to be the tree > representing the unpacked package, plus the orig tarball (or enough

Re: Re: RE:RE:Ad-hoc survey of existing Debian git integration tools

2015-07-29 Thread Ian Jackson
picca writes ("Re: Re: RE:RE:Ad-hoc survey of existing Debian git integration tools"): > It seems to me but I can be wrong that the dgit informations stored > under .git/dgit are sort of meta data which point to git ref > corresponding to packages uploaded into Debian. Don't look in .git/dgit. T

Re: Adding support for LZIP to dpkg, using that instead of xz, archive wide

2015-07-29 Thread Russ Allbery
Antonio Diaz Diaz writes: > IMHO, if two options are equally good for the Debian use case but one of > them is better for most of the users, Debian should choose the one that > is better for most of the users. Else, what is the use of the social > contract? That may be a worthwhile factor to tak

Re: Ad-hoc survey of existing Debian git integration tools

2015-07-29 Thread Ian Jackson
Vincent Bernat writes ("Re: Ad-hoc survey of existing Debian git integration tools"): > There is a patch management system but I think that most people (at > least me) are just using gbp with plain/normal quilt. Do your published git branches contain the patches-applied or patches-unapplied tree

Re: Ad-hoc survey of existing Debian git integration tools

2015-07-29 Thread Ian Jackson
Simon McVittie writes ("Re: Ad-hoc survey of existing Debian git integration tools"): > "gbp buildpackage" can work either way, but I think most gbp users > consider a patches-unapplied tree to be what they normally work with > (for instance that's what the pkg-perl team uses). Right. (dgit need

Bug#794036: ITP: cedar-backup3 -- local and remote backups to CD/DVD media or Amazon S3 storage

2015-07-29 Thread Kenneth Pronovici
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: "Kenneth J. Pronovici" * Package name: cedar-backup3 Version : 3.0.0 Upstream Author : Kenneth J. Pronovici * URL : https://bitbucket.org/cedarsolutions/cedar-backup3 * License : GPL v2 Programming Lang: Python 3 Des

Re: Re: Adding support for LZIP to dpkg, using that instead of xz, archive wide

2015-07-29 Thread Nicholas Breen
On Wed, Jul 29, 2015 at 12:21:54AM +0200, Antonio Diaz Diaz wrote: > If there is just the excrement of a fly adhered to a corner of the > envelope (a null byte appended to an otherwise intact file, for > example), xz will report that the data is corrupt and will not > deliver the message. This test

Bug#794025: ITP: python-functools32 -- Backport of the functools module from Python 3.2.3 to Python 2.7

2015-07-29 Thread Thomas Goirand
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Thomas Goirand * Package name: python-functools32 Version : 3.2.3.2 Upstream Author : ENDOH takanao * URL : https://github.com/MiCHiLU/python-functools32 * License : PSF-2 Programming Lang: Python Description : B

Re: Adding support for LZIP to dpkg, using that instead of xz, archive wide

2015-07-29 Thread Antonio Diaz Diaz
Thanks for the detailed explanations. Russ Allbery wrote: Inversely, by not accepting .lz source tarballs Debian is sending the message that lzip is not a good format to use, While it's possible that people may decide to read such messages into our decisions, that's not really something we hav

Bug#794023: ITP: mopidy-tunein -- Mopidy extension for playing music from TuneIn

2015-07-29 Thread Stein Magnus Jodal
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Stein Magnus Jodal * Package name: mopidy-tunein Version : 0.2.2 Upstream Author : Nick Steel * URL : https://github.com/kingosticks/mopidy-tunein * License : Apache-2.0 Programming Lang: Python Description : Mop

Re: Metapackage dependencies: "Depends" or "Recommends"?

2015-07-29 Thread Marvin Renich
* Josh Triplett [150729 17:18]: > Ole Streicher wrote: > > Other packages will never depend on this metapackage; they will rather > > depend on the individual programs. > > Other packages *in Debian* will not. I actually build a pile of > personal metapackages to set up systems, and many of thei

Re: Metapackage dependencies: "Depends" or "Recommends"?

2015-07-29 Thread Josh Triplett
Ole Streicher wrote: > Other packages will never depend on this metapackage; they will rather > depend on the individual programs. Other packages *in Debian* will not. I actually build a pile of personal metapackages to set up systems, and many of their dependencies are metapackages. If metapack

Bug#794021: ITP: python-skbio -- Python data structures, algorithms, educational resources for bioinformatics

2015-07-29 Thread Andreas Tille
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Andreas Tille * Package name: python-skbio Version : 0.2.3 Upstream Author : gregcapor...@gmail.com * URL : https://github.com/biocore/scikit-bio * License : BSD Programming Lang: Python Description : Python data

Re: Ad-hoc survey of existing Debian git integration tools

2015-07-29 Thread Simon McVittie
On 29/07/15 13:48, Ian Jackson wrote: > I got the impression that gbp normally works with a patches-unapplied > tree. Is that correct ? If so then an additional gbp step may be > needed, to convert the tree to patches-applied. "gbp buildpackage" can work either way, but I think most gbp users co

Bug#794008: ITP: lua-lanes -- Lua extension library providing the possibility to run multiple Lua states in parallel

2015-07-29 Thread Victor Seva
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Victor Seva -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 * Package name: lua-lanes Version : 3.10.0 Upstream Author : Benoit Germain * URL : https://github.com/LuaLanes/lanes/ * License : MIT/X Programming Lang: C,

Re: Metapackage dependencies: "Depends" or "Recommends"?

2015-07-29 Thread Nikolaus Rath
On Jul 28 2015, Ole Streicher wrote: > Ben Hutchings writes: >> Installation of a package from the 'metapackages' section does *not* >> mark its dependencies as automatically installed. > > Really? So, if someone would install a metapackage (for a test), and > then later uninstall it, its depende

Re: Ad-hoc survey of existing Debian git integration tools

2015-07-29 Thread Simon McVittie
On 29/07/15 15:00, Ian Jackson wrote: > Are you saying that your source packages contain things that your git > repositories don't ? This comes up occasionally, and I will say again > what I have said before: I think this is wrong. Perhaps it is; but if so, then any conventional Autotools project

Re: Re: RE:RE:Ad-hoc survey of existing Debian git integration tools

2015-07-29 Thread picca
Hello > > Yes and it is nice to have meta data (the dgit things) rerpresenting > > the packages which can be shared between derivatives. > I don't understand what you are referring to here. It seems to me but I can be wrong that the dgit informations stored under .git/dgit are sort of meta data

Bug#793992: ITP: r-bioc-aroma.light -- BioConductor methods normalization and visualization of microarray data

2015-07-29 Thread Andreas Tille
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Andreas Tille * Package name: r-bioc-aroma.light Version : 2.4.0 Upstream Author : Henrik Bengtsson * URL : http://www.bioconductor.org/packages/release/bioc/html/aroma.light.html * License : GPL Programming Lang: R

Re: Metapackage dependencies: "Depends" or "Recommends"?

2015-07-29 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi, On Wed, Jul 29, 2015 at 05:30:07PM +0200, Ole Streicher wrote: > Andreas Tille writes: > > On Wed, Jul 29, 2015 at 04:11:12PM +0200, Ole Streicher wrote: > >> Marvin Renich writes: > >> > A metapackage should not be used as a bat to beat users into installing > >> > ALL of something. It sho

Re: Metapackage dependencies: "Depends" or "Recommends"?

2015-07-29 Thread Ole Streicher
Andreas Tille writes: > On Wed, Jul 29, 2015 at 04:11:12PM +0200, Ole Streicher wrote: >> Marvin Renich writes: >> > A metapackage should not be used as a bat to beat users into installing >> > ALL of something. It should be a tool to help users install all of >> > something if they wish, but us

Bug#793979: ITP: darkradiant -- Level design toolchain for idtech4 based games like DOOM3 and The Dark Mod

2015-07-29 Thread Tobias Frost
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Tobias Frost * Package name: darkradiant Version : 2.0.2 Upstream Author : OrbWeaver and others * URL : http://darkradiant.sourceforge.net/ * License : GPL2+ Programming Lang: C++ Description : Level design toolc

Re: Metapackage dependencies: "Depends" or "Recommends"?

2015-07-29 Thread Andreas Tille
On Wed, Jul 29, 2015 at 04:11:12PM +0200, Ole Streicher wrote: > Marvin Renich writes: > > A metapackage should not be used as a bat to beat users into installing > > ALL of something. It should be a tool to help users install all of > > something if they wish, but users should still have as much

Re: Ad-hoc survey of existing Debian git integration tools

2015-07-29 Thread Vincent Bernat
❦ 29 juillet 2015 13:48 +0100, Ian Jackson  : >> > If you are an NMUer or a downstream using dgit, you should usually >> > make plain git commits (with no changes to the patch stack). dgit >> > will generate a separate patch for each of your commits. You should >> > leave rebasing/squashing/ref

Re: Metapackage dependencies: "Depends" or "Recommends"?

2015-07-29 Thread Ole Streicher
Marvin Renich writes: > A metapackage should not be used as a bat to beat users into installing > ALL of something. It should be a tool to help users install all of > something if they wish, but users should still have as much control as > is reasonable to pick and choose a partial subset if it w

Re: Metapackage dependencies: "Depends" or "Recommends"?

2015-07-29 Thread Marvin Renich
* Simon McVittie [150728 08:55]: > On 28/07/15 13:08, Marvin Renich wrote: > > There is no downside to using Recommends and no upside to using Depends > > for metapackages. > > I don't think it's that simple; it comes down to a question of what the > metapackage "means", which is a design questio

Re: RE:RE:Ad-hoc survey of existing Debian git integration tools

2015-07-29 Thread Ian Jackson
PICCA Frederic-Emmanuel writes ("RE:RE:Ad-hoc survey of existing Debian git integration tools"): > > dgit is a step in this direction. > > Yes and it is nice to have meta data (the dgit things) rerpresenting > the packages which can be shared between derivatives. I don't understand what you are

Re: Metapackage dependencies: "Depends" or "Recommends"?

2015-07-29 Thread Marvin Renich
* Andreas Tille [150729 04:14]: > On Tue, Jul 28, 2015 at 10:51:02AM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > > > I'm sure this is personal taste, and in the end it won't matter for most > > > people (except folks who don't install Recommends, but they're going to > > > break their system regardless), > > >

Bug#793968: ITP: python-burrito -- Python framework for wrapping and controlling command-line applications

2015-07-29 Thread Andreas Tille
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Andreas Tille * Package name: python-burrito Version : 0.9.1 Upstream Author : burrito development team * URL : https://github.com/biocore/burrito * License : BSD Programming Lang: Python Description : Python fra

Re: Ad-hoc survey of existing Debian git integration tools

2015-07-29 Thread Ian Jackson
Felipe Sateler writes ("Re: Ad-hoc survey of existing Debian git integration tools"): > On 29 July 2015 at 07:34, Ian Jackson wrote: > > If you are an NMUer or a downstream using dgit, you should usually > > make plain git commits (with no changes to the patch stack). dgit > > will generate a se

Bug#793963: ITP: rawtran -- RAW photo to FITS converter

2015-07-29 Thread Filip Hroch
Package: wnpp Owner: Filip Hroch Severity: wishlist X-Debbugs-Cc:debian-devel@lists.debian.org,debian-as...@lists.debian.org * Package name: rawtran Version : 0.3.3 Upstream Author : Filip Hroch * URL : http://integral.physics.muni.cz/rawtran/ * License : GPL-

Re: Ad-hoc survey of existing Debian git integration tools

2015-07-29 Thread Felipe Sateler
On 29 July 2015 at 07:34, Ian Jackson wrote: > > Felipe Sateler writes ("Re: Ad-hoc survey of existing Debian git integration > tools"): > > On Tue, 21 Jul 2015 18:46:47 +0100, Ian Jackson wrote: > > > That is, the dgit git tree contains the patches in debian/patches/ but > > > also contains the

RE:RE:Ad-hoc survey of existing Debian git integration tools

2015-07-29 Thread PICCA Frederic-Emmanuel
> dgit is a step in this direction. Yes and it is nice to have meta data (the dgit things) rerpresenting the packages which can be shared between derivatives. > I'm not sure I entirely understand your situation, but: Yes I was a bit laid at this moment :) > If you are a downstream, there is no

Re: RE:Ad-hoc survey of existing Debian git integration tools

2015-07-29 Thread Ian Jackson
PICCA Frederic-Emmanuel writes ("RE:Ad-hoc survey of existing Debian git integration tools"): > It seems to me that Debian should propose a sort of decentralized > github which should allow upstream to setup within a minute a 'PPA' > which can be naturally connected and beneficiate of the buildd,

Re: Ad-hoc survey of existing Debian git integration tools

2015-07-29 Thread Ian Jackson
Felipe Sateler writes ("Re: Ad-hoc survey of existing Debian git integration tools"): > On Tue, 21 Jul 2015 18:46:47 +0100, Ian Jackson wrote: > > That is, the dgit git tree contains the patches in debian/patches/ but > > also contains the implied changes in the main source code. If you add > > c

Re: Metapackage dependencies: "Depends" or "Recommends"?

2015-07-29 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting Adam D. Barratt (2015-07-28 20:02:39) > On Tue, 2015-07-28 at 17:22 +0200, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: >> Quoting Ole Streicher (2015-07-28 16:33:17) >>> Ben Hutchings writes: Installation of a package from the 'metapackages' section does *not* mark its dependencies as automatically

Bug#793950: ITP: python-xstatic-angular-gettext -- XStatic support for angular-gettext

2015-07-29 Thread Thomas Goirand
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Thomas Goirand * Package name: python-xstatic-angular-gettext Version : 2.1.0.1 Upstream Author : Thai Tran * URL : https://github.com/stackforge/xstatic-angular-gettext * License : Expat Programming Lang: Python Des

Bug#793949: ITP: libjs-angular-gettext -- gettext utilities for angular.js

2015-07-29 Thread Thomas Goirand
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Thomas Goirand * Package name: libjs-angular-gettext Version : 2.1.0 Upstream Author : Ruben Vermeersch * URL : https://github.com/rubenv/angular-gettext * License : Expat Programming Lang: Javascript Description

Re: Metapackage dependencies: "Depends" or "Recommends"?

2015-07-29 Thread Ole Streicher
Neil Williams writes: > Ole Streicher wrote: >> There are no things "that the metapackage is for": The package just >> collects a number of programs that belong to the same author and are > > The "same author" bit is a bit odd, there needs to be some common > purpose in aggregating a list of pack

Re: Metapackage dependencies: "Depends" or "Recommends"?

2015-07-29 Thread Andreas Tille
On Tue, Jul 28, 2015 at 10:51:02AM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > > I'm sure this is personal taste, and in the end it won't matter for most > > people (except folks who don't install Recommends, but they're going to > > break their system regardless), > > I've had Recommends disabled for something

Re: Metapackage dependencies: "Depends" or "Recommends"?

2015-07-29 Thread Neil Williams
On Tue, 28 Jul 2015 16:30:29 +0200 Ole Streicher wrote: > There are no things "that the metapackage is for": The package just > collects a number of programs that belong to the same author and are The "same author" bit is a bit odd, there needs to be some common purpose in aggregating a list of

Re: Metapackage dependencies: "Depends" or "Recommends"?

2015-07-29 Thread David Kalnischkies
On Tue, Jul 28, 2015 at 05:22:35PM +0200, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > Quoting Ole Streicher (2015-07-28 16:33:17) > > Ben Hutchings writes: > >> Installation of a package from the 'metapackages' section does *not* > >> mark its dependencies as automatically installed. > > > > Really? So, if someone