Bug#793936: ITP: libtemplate-autofilter-perl -- Template::Toolkit subclass with automatic filtering

2015-07-28 Thread Christopher Hoskin
Package: wnpp Owner: Christopher Hoskin Severity: wishlist X-Debbugs-CC: debian-devel@lists.debian.org,debian-p...@lists.debian.org * Package name: libtemplate-autofilter-perl Version : 0.143050 Upstream Author : Christian Walde * URL : https://metacpan.org/release/Te

Re: Metapackage dependencies: "Depends" or "Recommends"?

2015-07-28 Thread Paul Wise
On Tue, Jul 28, 2015 at 11:22 PM, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > Also, even for non-metapackages, if some other package just _suggest_ > the package you pull in via depends/recommends, they stick as well. That is controlled by the middle one of these apt config settings: APT::Install-Recommends "fals

Re: Re: Adding support for LZIP to dpkg, using that instead of xz, archive wide

2015-07-28 Thread Antonio Diaz Diaz
Vincent Lefevre wrote: the xz format is objectively more fragile than the other three. I completely disagree. IMHO, a decompressor should be very strict and detect any suspicious modification. Agreed, but I'll try to make it clear how much the "strictness" of the xz format is brain damaged.

Re: Facilitating external repositories

2015-07-28 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting Игорь Пашев (2015-07-28 21:11:57) > 2015-06-05 19:10 GMT+03:00 Josh Triplett : >> Given that the packages in question appear to be Free Software (at least >> from a quick check of a couple of them, as well as the repository being >> named "main"), is there a reason you don't maintain them i

Bug#793404: massive waste of CPU time in debian/rules by inline commands

2015-07-28 Thread Niels Thykier
On 2015-07-25 10:27, Niels Thykier wrote: > [...] > >> So your ":=" variable will be evaluated 4 times, or 7+N times if you use >> dh. >> >> [...] >> > > It should be doable to reduce the dh side of it to 1+N by caching the > result of make (in a file-based cache). > > ~Niels > > Correction,

Bug#793907: ITP: tantan -- low complexity and tandem repeat masker for biosequences

2015-07-28 Thread Sascha Steinbiss
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Sascha Steinbiss * Package name: tantan Version : 13 Upstream Author : Martin Frith * URL : http://www.cbrc.jp/tantan/ * License : GPL Programming Lang: C Description : low complexity and tandem repeat masker for

Re: Facilitating external repositories

2015-07-28 Thread Игорь Пашев
2015-06-05 19:10 GMT+03:00 Josh Triplett : > Given that the packages in question appear to be Free Software (at least > from a quick check of a couple of them, as well as the repository being > named "main"), is there a reason you don't maintain them in Debian > (including backports or volatile if

Re: Metapackage dependencies: "Depends" or "Recommends"?

2015-07-28 Thread Adam D. Barratt
On Tue, 2015-07-28 at 17:22 +0200, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > Quoting Ole Streicher (2015-07-28 16:33:17) > > Ben Hutchings writes: > >> Installation of a package from the 'metapackages' section does *not* > >> mark its dependencies as automatically installed. > > > > Really? So, if someone would i

Re: Metapackage dependencies: "Depends" or "Recommends"?

2015-07-28 Thread Russ Allbery
Paul Tagliamonte writes: > I'm sure this is personal taste, and in the end it won't matter for most > people (except folks who don't install Recommends, but they're going to > break their system regardless), I've had Recommends disabled for something like five years. My systems have yet to brea

Re: Metapackage dependencies: "Depends" or "Recommends"?

2015-07-28 Thread KI7MT
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 - From my dealings with Meta Packages in the past: On 07/28/2015 09:22 AM, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > Quoting Ole Streicher (2015-07-28 16:33:17) >> Ben Hutchings writes: >>> Installation of a package from the 'metapackages' section does *not* >>>

Re: Metapackage dependencies: "Depends" or "Recommends"?

2015-07-28 Thread Simon McVittie
On 28/07/15 13:55, Paul Tagliamonte wrote: > Well, I have a personal "thing" about this - it strikes me as quirky to > not have a Depends, since those metapackages, without all of them, is > technically not satisfied. ... > I'd prefer to see metapackages use > Recommends for the things that should

Re: Metapackage dependencies: "Depends" or "Recommends"?

2015-07-28 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting Ole Streicher (2015-07-28 16:33:17) > Ben Hutchings writes: >> Installation of a package from the 'metapackages' section does *not* >> mark its dependencies as automatically installed. > > Really? So, if someone would install a metapackage (for a test), and > then later uninstall it, its

Re: Metapackage dependencies: "Depends" or "Recommends"?

2015-07-28 Thread Ole Streicher
Ben Hutchings writes: > Installation of a package from the 'metapackages' section does *not* > mark its dependencies as automatically installed. Really? So, if someone would install a metapackage (for a test), and then later uninstall it, its dependencies will remain on the system? Is there any

Re: Metapackage dependencies: "Depends" or "Recommends"?

2015-07-28 Thread Ole Streicher
Paul Tagliamonte writes: > Well, I have a personal "thing" about this - it strikes me as quirky to > not have a Depends, since those metapackages, without all of them, is > technically not satisfied. I don't understand this argument. > I'd prefer to see metapackages use Recommends for the things

Re: Metapackage dependencies: "Depends" or "Recommends"?

2015-07-28 Thread Ole Streicher
Simon McVittie writes: > On 28/07/15 13:08, Marvin Renich wrote: >> There is no downside to using Recommends and no upside to using Depends >> for metapackages. > > I don't think it's that simple; it comes down to a question of what the > metapackage "means", which is a design question for its mai

Re: Metapackage dependencies: "Depends" or "Recommends"?

2015-07-28 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting Martin Read (2015-07-28 15:23:09) > On 28/07/15 14:13, Ben Hutchings wrote: >> Installation of a package from the 'metapackages' section does *not* >> mark its dependencies as automatically installed. > > This statement does not appear to be correct on my Debian jessie > system using apti

Re: Metapackage dependencies: "Depends" or "Recommends"?

2015-07-28 Thread Martin Read
On 28/07/15 14:13, Ben Hutchings wrote: Installation of a package from the 'metapackages' section does *not* mark its dependencies as automatically installed. This statement does not appear to be correct on my Debian jessie system using aptitude. I just experimentally marked the cinnamon-core

Re: Metapackage dependencies: "Depends" or "Recommends"?

2015-07-28 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Tue, 2015-07-28 at 08:08 -0400, Marvin Renich wrote: [...] > If you use Depends, the user has two choices, install everything, or not > use the metapackage. > > Take the metapackage games-finest. If all of those packages were > Depends instead of Recommends, you could not remove a small handfu

Re: Metapackage dependencies: "Depends" or "Recommends"?

2015-07-28 Thread Paul Tagliamonte
On Tue, Jul 28, 2015 at 10:58:00AM +0200, Ole Streicher wrote: > What is the rationale behind this? From the policy, I would think that > "Recommends" is the perfect dependency here [2]: > > | Recommends > | This declares a strong, but not absolute, dependency. The Recommends > | field should list

Re: Metapackage dependencies: "Depends" or "Recommends"?

2015-07-28 Thread Simon McVittie
On 28/07/15 13:08, Marvin Renich wrote: > There is no downside to using Recommends and no upside to using Depends > for metapackages. I don't think it's that simple; it comes down to a question of what the metapackage "means", which is a design question for its maintainer. For metapackages that a

Re: Re: A couple a questions regarding the packaging

2015-07-28 Thread Marcin M.
Thanks! Only if you have a vector image. And for which sizes should I downscale the PNG? Should I do it at all? 3. In the `debian` folder created by dh_make I noticed a file called `menu.ex`. What's the purpose of debian/menu? The Debian menu system, used by some old or obscure window manag

Re: Metapackage dependencies: "Depends" or "Recommends"?

2015-07-28 Thread Marvin Renich
* Ole Streicher [150728 05:15]: > Hi, > > I recently created two metapackages (astromatic and eso-pipelines) which > were accepted by the ftp-masters yesterday. However, I got a commend > that my choice of "Recommends" dependencies is discouraged: > > Paul Richards Tagliamonte [1]: > > using Re

Bug#793870: ITP: yamm3 -- Yet another megamenu for Bootstrap 3 from Twitter

2015-07-28 Thread Mike Gabriel
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Mike Gabriel * Package name: yamm3 Version : 1.1.0 Upstream Author : geedmo (https://github.com/geedmo) * URL : https://github.com/geedmo/yamm3 * License : Expat Programming Lang: CSS Description : Yet another meg

Re: Bug#793644: ITP: hadoop -- Apache Hadoop distributed processing framework

2015-07-28 Thread Emmanuel Bourg
Le 28/07/2015 12:09, Thomas Koch a écrit : > I've packaged hadoop in 2011. However nobody(?) used it and I switched jobs > and lost interest. I don't know when and why hadoop was removed from the > archive. You requested its removal in 2010 (https://bugs.debian.org/592450). > I doubt that anyb

Bug#793868: ITP: python-astropy-affiliated -- Astropy Affiliated packages

2015-07-28 Thread Ole Streicher
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Ole Streicher X-Debbugs-Cc: debian-devel@lists.debian.org,debian-as...@lists.debian.org * Package name : python-astropy-affiliated * URL : http://www.astropy.org/affiliated * License : public-domain Description : Collect

Re: Bug#793644: ITP: hadoop -- Apache Hadoop distributed processing framework

2015-07-28 Thread Thomas Koch
On Saturday 25 July 2015 23:10:11 Emmanuel Bourg wrote: > Package: wnpp > Severity: wishlist > Owner: Emmanuel Bourg > > * Package name: hadoop I've packaged hadoop in 2011. However nobody(?) used it and I switched jobs and lost interest. I don't know when and why hadoop was removed from th

Metapackage dependencies: "Depends" or "Recommends"?

2015-07-28 Thread Ole Streicher
Hi, I recently created two metapackages (astromatic and eso-pipelines) which were accepted by the ftp-masters yesterday. However, I got a commend that my choice of "Recommends" dependencies is discouraged: Paul Richards Tagliamonte [1]: > using Recomends and not Depends on the metapackage strike