Re: The Spirit of Free Software, or The Reality

2015-07-15 Thread Ben Finney
Bas Wijnen writes: > The "problem" that nobody mentioned it may be caused by the fact that > nobody really considers those icons non-free, The copyright holder of those icons does not, AFAIK, grant restricted license for recipients to modify and redistribute the work. That makes those works non

Re: The Spirit of Free Software, or The Reality

2015-07-15 Thread Bas Wijnen
On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 07:56:42PM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote: > Right. I find it disappointing to discover that in Debian we have > deliberately modified Iceweasl to make this problem worse, even if > only in a modest way. ... > And one thing we could easily do (well, easily from a technical point

Bug#792539: ITP: python-mapnik -- Python interface to the mapnik library

2015-07-15 Thread Bas Couwenberg
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Bas Couwenberg * Package name: python-mapnik Version : 0.0~20150708-c005502 Upstream Author : Mapnik Developers * URL : https://github.com/mapnik/python-mapnik * License : LGPL-2.1+ Programming Lang: C++/Python Descri

Re: The Spirit of Free Software, or The Reality

2015-07-15 Thread Mike Hommey
On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 01:07:00PM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote: > > BTW, that's something that would need to be resolved once and for all by > > an SPI lawyer, because a) Mozilla's lawyers consider those icons kocher > > as MPL-licensed icons and b) that's a problem broader than just > > iceweasel, as

Re: The Spirit of Free Software, or The Reality

2015-07-15 Thread Mike Hommey
On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 12:56:29PM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote: > Nikolaus Rath writes ("Re: The Spirit of Free Software, or The Reality"): > > On Jul 15 2015, Jakub Wilk wrote: > > > So I made this experiment with Iceweasel. These are the requests it > > > makes with a fresh profile, before you even

Re: The Spirit of Free Software, or The Reality

2015-07-15 Thread Mike Hommey
On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 02:18:08PM +0200, Bas Wijnen wrote: > On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 01:26:16PM +0900, Mike Hommey wrote: > > On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 03:51:42AM +0200, Bas Wijnen wrote: > > > On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 01:06:28AM +0200, Jakub Wilk wrote: > > > > POST > > > > https://safebrowsing.goo

Re: Re: The Spirit of Free Software, or The Reality

2015-07-15 Thread Mike Hommey
On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 03:50:18PM +, Christoph Riehl wrote: > > On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 03:51:42AM +0200, Bas Wijnen wrote: > > > On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 01:06:28AM +0200, Jakub Wilk wrote: > > > > POST > https://safebrowsing.google.com/safebrowsing/downloads?client=Iceweasel&appver=38.1.0

Bug#792534: ITP: pd-flext -- Flext C++ external layer for Pd (and similar)

2015-07-15 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: IOhannes m zmoelnig * Package name: pd-flext Version : 0.5.1 Upstream Author : Thomas Grill * URL : http://g.org/research/software/flext/ * License : GPL Programming Lang: C++ Description : Flext C++ external

Re: The Spirit of Free Software, or The Reality

2015-07-15 Thread Ian Jackson
Ian Jackson writes ("Re: The Spirit of Free Software, or The Reality"): > Right. I find it disappointing to discover that in Debian we have > deliberately modified Iceweasl to make this problem worse, even if ^ Also, why do I keep doing that ? e <= here are the

Re: The Spirit of Free Software, or The Reality

2015-07-15 Thread Ian Jackson
Nikolaus Rath writes ("Re: The Spirit of Free Software, or The Reality"): > On Jul 15 2015, Ian Jackson wrote: > > If I use Iceweasl to visit the EFF's web pages, over TLS, I see no > > reason why I should be exposed to any privacy violations (other than > > any implied by decisons taken by the EF

Re: The Spirit of Free Software, or The Reality

2015-07-15 Thread Ian Jackson
Nikolaus Rath writes ("Re: The Spirit of Free Software, or The Reality"): > On Jul 15 2015, Bas Wijnen wrote: > > As Jakub was saying: just starting it up without even visiting a > > site yet will do a POST and a *few dozen* GET requests. Shouldn't > > it be waiting with its checks until it actua

ITP: r-cran-brglm -- GNU R package for bias reduction in binomial-response GLMs

2015-07-15 Thread Balint Reczey
Package: wnpp Owner: Balint Reczey Severity: wishlist * Package name: r-cran-brglm Version : 0.5-9 Upstream Author : Ioannis Kosmidis * URL : http://www.ucl.ac.uk/~ucakiko/index.html * License : GPL-2.0+ Programming Lang: R Description : GNU R package

Re: Re: The Spirit of Free Software, or The Reality

2015-07-15 Thread Christoph Riehl
> On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 03:51:42AM +0200, Bas Wijnen wrote: > > On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 01:06:28AM +0200, Jakub Wilk wrote: > > > POST https://safebrowsing.google.com/safebrowsing/downloads?client=Iceweasel&appver=38.1.0&pver=2.2&key=no-google-api-key > > > + a few dozens of GET requests to

Re: preparing for GCC 5, especially libstdc++6

2015-07-15 Thread Matthias Klose
On 07/03/2015 03:24 PM, Matthias Klose wrote: > On 07/02/2015 06:45 PM, Emilio Pozuelo Monfort wrote: >> On 01/07/15 14:39, Matthias Klose wrote: >>> On 06/26/2015 03:01 AM, Emilio Pozuelo Monfort wrote: On 25/06/15 17:44, Matthias Klose wrote: > On 06/25/2015 01:20 PM, Matthias Klose wrot

Re: The Spirit of Free Software, or The Reality

2015-07-15 Thread Nikolaus Rath
On Jul 15 2015, Bas Wijnen wrote: > As Jakub was saying: just starting it up without even visiting a site yet will > do a POST and a *few dozen* GET requests. Shouldn't it be waiting with its > checks until it actually knows what to check? What is it sending them at > browser startup? Why don't

Re: The Spirit of Free Software, or The Reality

2015-07-15 Thread Nikolaus Rath
On Jul 15 2015, Ian Jackson wrote: > Nikolaus Rath writes ("Re: The Spirit of Free Software, or The Reality"): >> On Jul 15 2015, Jakub Wilk wrote: >> > So I made this experiment with Iceweasel. These are the requests it >> > makes with a fresh profile, before you even type an URL: >> > >> > POS

Re: GitHub “pull request ” is proprietary, incompatible with Git ‘req u est-pull ’

2015-07-15 Thread Ian Jackson
Antonio Terceiro writes ("Re: GitHub “pull request ” is proprietary, incompatible with Git ‘req u est-pull ’"): > But if there is server side support for anyone to push to some ref in > the maintainer's repository without any authentication in a way that > won't otherwise interefere with the maint

Re: GitHub “pull request ” is proprietary, incompatible with Git ‘requ est-pull ’

2015-07-15 Thread Antonio Terceiro
On Tue, Jul 14, 2015 at 05:06:31PM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote: > Antonio Terceiro writes ("Re: GitHub “pull request ” is proprietary, > incompatible with Git ‘requ est-pull ’"): > > I have a few ideas about this. I have used gerrit before, and it > > provides a really nice experience except for 2 li

Bug#792500: ITP: python-futurist -- useful additions to futures, from the future

2015-07-15 Thread Thomas Goirand
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Thomas Goirand * Package name: python-futurist Version : 0.1.2 Upstream Author : OpenStack Foundation * URL : https://github.com/openstack/futurist * License : Apache-2.0 Language: Python Description : us

Re: The Spirit of Free Software, or The Reality

2015-07-15 Thread The Wanderer
On 07/15/2015 at 08:18 AM, Bas Wijnen wrote: > As Jakub was saying: just starting it up without even visiting a site > yet will do a POST and a *few dozen* GET requests. Shouldn't it be > waiting with its checks until it actually knows what to check? What > is it sending them at browser startup?

Bug#792497: ITP: python-fasteners -- provides useful locks

2015-07-15 Thread Thomas Goirand
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Thomas Goirand * Package name: python-fasteners Version : 0.12.0 Upstream Author : Joshua Harlow * URL : https://github.com/harlowja/fasteners * License : Apache-2.0 Programming Lang: Python Description : provide

Re: The Spirit of Free Software, or The Reality

2015-07-15 Thread Adam Borowski
On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 12:16:36PM +0200, Marcus Rohrmoser wrote: > https://requestpolicycontinued.github.io/ comes to a rescue. Note that while requestpolicycontinued is capable to do everything original requestpolicy did, in its default mode it's just a poor ad blocker, strictly weaker than Adbl

Re: The Spirit of Free Software, or The Reality

2015-07-15 Thread Bas Wijnen
On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 01:26:16PM +0900, Mike Hommey wrote: > On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 03:51:42AM +0200, Bas Wijnen wrote: > > On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 01:06:28AM +0200, Jakub Wilk wrote: > > > POST > > > https://safebrowsing.google.com/safebrowsing/downloads?client=Iceweasel&appver=38.1.0&pver=2.2

Re: git repositories for packages and signed pushes

2015-07-15 Thread Ian Jackson
Gerrit Pape writes ("Re: git repositories for packages and signed pushes"): > On Sat, Jul 11, 2015 at 06:23:59PM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote: > > The only significant problem is that the relevant versions of git are > > currently only in experimental. Can we expect these (a) to be in sid > > soon and

Re: The Spirit of Free Software, or The Reality

2015-07-15 Thread Ian Jackson
Marc Haber writes ("Re: The Spirit of Free Software, or The Reality"): > On Wed, 15 Jul 2015 14:56:28 +1000, Ben Finney > wrote: > >Whatever my position ends up being on that, I do have a firm position on > >another aspect: I greatly appreciate that you're grappling with these > >issues in Mozilla

Re: The Spirit of Free Software, or The Reality

2015-07-15 Thread Ian Jackson
Mike Hommey writes ("Re: The Spirit of Free Software, or The Reality"): > On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 01:06:28AM +0200, Jakub Wilk wrote: > > GET http://www.ebay.com/favicon.ico > > GET http://en.wikipedia.org/favicon.ico > > GET http://www.yahoo.com/favicon.ico > > GET http://www.google.com/favicon.ic

Re: The Spirit of Free Software, or The Reality

2015-07-15 Thread Marc Haber
On Wed, 15 Jul 2015 14:56:28 +1000, Ben Finney wrote: >Whatever my position ends up being on that, I do have a firm position on >another aspect: I greatly appreciate that you're grappling with these >issues in Mozilla products, and working to keep Debian high-quality and >free. > >Thank you, Mike.

Re: dgit: all users of dgit << 0.30 please upgrade

2015-07-15 Thread Ian Jackson
Wouter Verhelst writes ("Re: dgit: all users of dgit << 0.30 please upgrade"): > On Tue, Jul 14, 2015 at 06:00:32PM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote: > > * I am going to move the git repositories. The old version of dgit > >will stop working when I do. > > In that case, and seen as how -devel is not

Bug#792488: ITP: libtext-levenshtein-damerau-perl -- Edit distance calculator with Damerau Levenshtein algorithm

2015-07-15 Thread Dominique Dumont
Package: wnpp Owner: Dominique Dumont Severity: wishlist X-Debbugs-CC: debian-devel@lists.debian.org,debian-p...@lists.debian.org * Package name: libtext-levenshtein-damerau-perl Version : 0.41 Upstream Author : Nick Logan * URL : https://metacpan.org/release/Text-Lev

Re: The Spirit of Free Software, or The Reality

2015-07-15 Thread Marcus Rohrmoser
Dear Nikolaus, I have to disagree. > I'm not sure if that's really as serious as you make it sound. Let me > ask you this: > > 1. Were you surprised by this? Yes. > I was certainly not, this is about what I >would have guessed. Why? > If a program does what I expect it to do, I'm not >

Re: git repositories for packages and signed pushes

2015-07-15 Thread Gerrit Pape
On Sat, Jul 11, 2015 at 06:23:59PM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote: > The only significant problem is that the relevant versions of git are > currently only in experimental. Can we expect these (a) to be in sid > soon and (b) usefully stable backports to be available for (at least) > jessie ? (CCing git

Re: dgit: all users of dgit << 0.30 please upgrade

2015-07-15 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Tue, Jul 14, 2015 at 06:00:32PM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote: > * I am going to move the git repositories. The old version of dgit >will stop working when I do. In that case, and seen as how -devel is not a must-read mailinglist, maybe this is more appropriate for -devel-announce? -- It is

Re: The Spirit of Free Software, or The Reality

2015-07-15 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 02:34:41PM +0900, Mike Hommey wrote: > On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 01:09:47PM +0800, Paul Wise wrote: > > On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 12:26 PM, Mike Hommey wrote: > > > > > FUD is easy. How about documenting yourself on how Safe browsing > > > actually works? Hint: urls are _never_