Re: how to remove libsystemd0 from a live-running debian desktop system

2015-02-18 Thread Russ Allbery
Simon Richter writes: > With my embedded hat on, it would be nice if there was an easy way to > drop this extra dependency, as it means a lot of essentially dead code > loaded on systems that don't use systemd. Like others, I'd be happy to support that as a build profile or build option or somet

Re: how to remove libsystemd0 from a live-running debian desktop system

2015-02-18 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Feb 18, Simon Richter wrote: > With my embedded hat on, it would be nice if there was an easy way to > drop this extra dependency, as it means a lot of essentially dead code > loaded on systems that don't use systemd. http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/users/md/libsystemd-dummy.git/ -- ciao, Mar

Bug#778731: ITP: statsite -- C implementation of statsd

2015-02-18 Thread Miguel Landaeta
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Miguel Landaeta * Package name: statsite Version : 0.7.0 Upstream Author : Armon Dadgar * URL : http://armon.github.io/statsite/ * License : BSD-3-clause Programming Lang: C Description : metrics aggregation serv

Re: how to remove libsystemd0 from a live-running debian desktop system

2015-02-18 Thread Adam Borowski
On Wed, Feb 18, 2015 at 07:21:44PM +0100, Simon Richter wrote: > > If the argument is that it should be opened with dlopen at runtime, I'm > > quite confident that there are *many* people on debian-devel who have > > worked with shared libraries and can spell out many reasons why that's a > > horri

RE:Bug#778417: ITP: netcdf-python -- python interface to the netCDF4 (network Common Data Form) library

2015-02-18 Thread PICCA Frederic-Emmanuel
Hello, I am the maintainer of python-scientific > How does this differ from the existing python-netcdf package? I CC the upstream autor of python-scientific, maybe he can clarify this point but before a question to the netcdf4-python guyes. Does netcdf4-python will support python3 ? @Konrad do

Re: moving to multiarch for packages with plugins

2015-02-18 Thread Rebecca N. Palmer
As a transitional measure, you could patch lcmaps so it searches /usr/lib/lcmaps with lower priority than ${libdir}/lcmaps, so that these older plugin packages continue to work for a couple of years. openscenegraph does that (currently openscenegraph-plugin-citygml-shared and libopenscenegraph's

Bug#778708: ITP: python-pex -- library for generating Python executable zip files

2015-02-18 Thread Barry Warsaw
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Barry Warsaw -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 * Package name: python-pex Version : 0.8.6 Upstream Author : Brian Wickman * URL : https://pypi.python.org/pypi/pex * License : Apache-2.0 Programming Lang:

Re: how to remove libsystemd0 from a live-running debian desktop system

2015-02-18 Thread Simon Richter
Hi, Am 18.02.2015 um 04:32 schrieb Russ Allbery: > If the argument is that it should be opened with dlopen at runtime, I'm > quite confident that there are *many* people on debian-devel who have > worked with shared libraries and can spell out many reasons why that's a > horrible idea. Correct.

Re: Hosting offers for Debian development

2015-02-18 Thread Mehdi Dogguy
Hi, First, thanks for working on this subject. I know that I will personally benefit from it to experiment a few ideas and move some project of mine (that I host on my personal server for now) there to be able to develop it further. On Wed, Feb 18, 2015 at 08:33:20AM +0100, Lucas Nussbaum wrote

Re: moving to multiarch for packages with plugins

2015-02-18 Thread Simon Richter
Hi, Am 18.02.2015 um 11:49 schrieb Dennis van Dok: > It's harder to reversely state that the new framework conflicts with > older plugin packages: they would all have to be listed in the control > file, and then only the known ones could be listed (it's not > inconceivable other parties made thei

Re: how to remove libsystemd0 from a live-running debian desktop system

2015-02-18 Thread Scott Kitterman
On February 18, 2015 7:54:00 AM EST, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: >On Wed, Feb 18, 2015 at 12:27 AM, Steve Langasek >wrote: >> On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 11:52:21PM +, Luke Kenneth Casson >Leighton wrote: >>> On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 10:52 PM, Josh Triplett > wrote: >> >>> > So, please go

Re: how to remove libsystemd0 from a live-running debian desktop system

2015-02-18 Thread Christian Kastner
On 2015-02-18 13:54, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: > that's right - i haven't. because (a) i have complete confidence in > your technical abilities, as a group. i wouldn't use debian > otherwise! :) and (b) this isn't a technical issue, it's a strategic > one. No, it's not. The issue is

Re: how to remove libsystemd0 from a live-running debian desktop system

2015-02-18 Thread Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
On Wed, Feb 18, 2015 at 12:27 AM, Steve Langasek wrote: > On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 11:52:21PM +, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: >> On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 10:52 PM, Josh Triplett >> wrote: > >> > So, please go educate yourself on what libsystemd0 actually does, > >> i know what it does,

Re: how to remove libsystemd0 from a live-running debian desktop system

2015-02-18 Thread Ondřej Surý
On Wed, Feb 18, 2015, at 04:32, Russ Allbery wrote: > (Removing every package whose name contains the string "systemd" is not a > practical, useful purpose. It's just silly.) Perhaps we could rename the library (and the package) to: libthis-is-not-the-library-you-are-looking-for.so.0 I guess th

Re: moving to multiarch for packages with plugins

2015-02-18 Thread Simon McVittie
On 18/02/15 10:49, Dennis van Dok wrote: > I'm maintaining a framework package (lcmaps) with several plugins that > traditionally install under /usr/lib/lcmaps. With the move to debhelper > 9, the default for dh_auto_configure is to pass > --libdir=/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu which changes the plugin

Re: moving to multiarch for packages with plugins

2015-02-18 Thread Neil Williams
On Wed, 18 Feb 2015 11:49:50 +0100 Dennis van Dok wrote: > Hi, > > I'm maintaining a framework package (lcmaps) with several plugins that > traditionally install under /usr/lib/lcmaps. With the move to > debhelper 9, the default for dh_auto_configure is to pass > --libdir=/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-g

moving to multiarch for packages with plugins

2015-02-18 Thread Dennis van Dok
Hi, I'm maintaining a framework package (lcmaps) with several plugins that traditionally install under /usr/lib/lcmaps. With the move to debhelper 9, the default for dh_auto_configure is to pass --libdir=/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu which changes the plugin path. This is not a big deal except that t