Re: motd handling in jessie

2015-01-25 Thread Brian May
On 26 January 2015 at 07:46, Russ Allbery wrote: > I think we're overcomplicating this. If someone really wants to put data > that updates regularly in their MOTD *and* use update-motd.d to do this > (we're already into territory that I suspect is pretty rare), we can just > tell them to add a c

Re: motd handling in jessie

2015-01-25 Thread Russ Allbery
Josh Triplett writes: > However, I don't think "run a pile of scripts to write out a dynamic > MOTD at boot time" is a sensible default, either. Why not? > I'd suggest putting update-motd and update-motd.d into a separate, > optional package that users can install if they really want it, and >

Re: Re: motd handling in jessie

2015-01-25 Thread Josh Triplett
Russ Allbery wrote: > Josh Triplett writes: > > But not the Debian default. Debian defaults to "UsePAM yes" and > > "PrintMotd no", and uses PAM to print the motd. > > Right, which I think is a bad idea, for the reasons stated earlier in this > thread. :) I think the way to go here is to use t

Bug#776241: ITP: libcatalyst-authentication-store-htpasswd-perl -- Authen::Htpasswd based user storage/authentication.

2015-01-25 Thread Christopher Hoskin
Package: wnpp Owner: Christopher Hoskin Severity: wishlist X-Debbugs-CC: debian-devel@lists.debian.org,debian-p...@lists.debian.org * Package name: libcatalyst-authentication-store-htpasswd-perl Version : 1.003 Upstream Author : Tomas Doran * URL : https://metacpan.o

Re: motd handling in jessie

2015-01-25 Thread Russ Allbery
Cameron Norman writes: > Well we can do both. If these update-motd scripts actually differ in > their result day by day, and the server is only rebooted maybe once a > week (if not less often), then running them once at boot is not enough. I think we're overcomplicating this. If someone really

Re: motd handling in jessie

2015-01-25 Thread Cameron Norman
On Sun, Jan 25, 2015 at 11:45 AM, Russ Allbery wrote: > Michael Biebl writes: > >> Why run this on every boot? > > The main thing that you want to be up-to-date are things like the running > kernel version, and you have no other good way of detecting that, I don't > think. > > It's not like this

Re: motd handling in jessie

2015-01-25 Thread Russ Allbery
Michael Biebl writes: > Why run this on every boot? The main thing that you want to be up-to-date are things like the running kernel version, and you have no other good way of detecting that, I don't think. It's not like this stuff takes very long to run, and it will happily parallelize. > If

Re: motd handling in jessie

2015-01-25 Thread Michael Biebl
Am 25.01.2015 um 20:19 schrieb Russ Allbery: > Josh Triplett writes: > >> But not the Debian default. Debian defaults to "UsePAM yes" and >> "PrintMotd no", and uses PAM to print the motd. > > Right, which I think is a bad idea, for the reasons stated earlier in this > thread. :) I think the

Re: motd handling in jessie

2015-01-25 Thread Russ Allbery
Josh Triplett writes: > But not the Debian default. Debian defaults to "UsePAM yes" and > "PrintMotd no", and uses PAM to print the motd. Right, which I think is a bad idea, for the reasons stated earlier in this thread. :) I think the way to go here is to use the update-motd.d stuff to gener

Processed: tagging 776222

2015-01-25 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Processing commands for cont...@bugs.debian.org: > tags 776222 - lfs Bug #776222 [general] general: Software management should be only one tool in the GUI Removed tag(s) lfs. > thanks Stopping processing here. Please contact me if you need assistance. -- 776222: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/b

Bug#776222: general: Software management should be only one tool in the GUI

2015-01-25 Thread Roland Illig
Package: general Severity: normal Tags: lfs Dear Maintainer, * What led up to the situation? I installed a fresh Debian with GNOME. * What exactly did you do (or not do) that was effective (or ineffective)? I want to install new packages and update the existing ones. * What was

Bug#776208: ITP: libcache-memcached-getparserxs-perl -- C/XS implementation of Cache::Memcached::GetParser

2015-01-25 Thread Christopher Hoskin
Package: wnpp Owner: Christopher Hoskin Severity: wishlist X-Debbugs-CC: debian-devel@lists.debian.org,debian-p...@lists.debian.org * Package name: libcache-memcached-getparserxs-perl Version : 0.01 Upstream Author : Jonathan Steinert * URL : https://metacpan.org/rele