Re: Being part of a community and behaving

2014-11-16 Thread Gergely Nagy
> "Cameron" == Cameron Norman writes: Cameron> Apparently this is a known issue, and another person has experienced Cameron> it: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=760426 >> >> That and https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=769499 are >> closel

Re: Being part of a community and behaving

2014-11-16 Thread Steve Langasek
On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 12:13:19AM +0100, Marco d'Itri wrote: > On Nov 16, Theodore Ts'o wrote: > > > I was really confused that this needed to go to the TC; from what I > > could tell, it had no downside systems using systemd, and it made > > things better on non-systemd systems. What was the d

Bug#769851: ITP: puppetlabs-spec-helper -- Ruby library for puppet module testing

2014-11-16 Thread Jordan Metzmeier
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Jordan Metzmeier * Package name: puppetlabs-spec-helper Version : 0.8.2 Upstream Author : Puppet Labs Inc * URL : https://github.com/puppetlabs/puppetlabs_spec_helper * License : Apache Programming Lang: Ruby Descrip

Re: RFC: DEP-14: Recommended layout for Git packaging repositories

2014-11-16 Thread Ron
On Sun, Nov 16, 2014 at 07:33:32PM +1030, Ron wrote: > On Sat, Nov 15, 2014 at 06:15:33PM +, Simon McVittie wrote: > > On 12/11/14 22:07, Ron wrote: > > > I am also interested to hear more > > > about whatever the confusion was you had with this was when you > > > started working with Tollef's

Re: libpam-systemd [Re: Being part of a community and behaving]

2014-11-16 Thread Don Armstrong
On Mon, 17 Nov 2014, Anthony Towns wrote: > the systemd maintainers may have wanted to protect systemd users > tracking unstable from systemd-shim breakage. This dependency change doesn't install systemd-shim if someone is already using systemd-sysv. It only installs systemd-shim if someone has al

Re: libpam-systemd [Re: Being part of a community and behaving]

2014-11-16 Thread Anthony Towns
On Sun, Nov 16, 2014 at 03:52:39PM -0800, Don Armstrong wrote: > On Sun, 16 Nov 2014, Anthony Towns wrote: > > I assume that RC bug was one blocker from the systemd maintainers' > > POV, but that bug doesn't seem to have been considered by the > > technical committee in its deliberations at all (at

Re: RFC: DEP-14: Recommended layout for Git packaging repositories

2014-11-16 Thread Ron
On Sun, Nov 16, 2014 at 02:03:23PM -0200, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > On Sun, 16 Nov 2014, Ron wrote: > > On Sat, Nov 15, 2014 at 03:49:56PM -0200, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > > > On Sat, 15 Nov 2014, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > > > > On Fri, 14 Nov 2014, Ian Jackson wrote: > > > > >

Re: Pre-Depends: init-system-helpers

2014-11-16 Thread Anthony Towns
On Sun, Nov 16, 2014 at 01:43:37PM -0800, Steve Langasek wrote: > Can someone of the systemd maintainers please explain why this is being done > as a separate helper instead of integrating with the tools that are already > defined in policy and already part of the base system (e.g., invoke-rc.d)?

libpam-systemd [Re: Being part of a community and behaving]

2014-11-16 Thread Don Armstrong
On Sun, 16 Nov 2014, Anthony Towns wrote: > I assume that RC bug was one blocker from the systemd maintainers' > POV, but that bug doesn't seem to have been considered by the > technical committee in its deliberations at all (at least in so far as > Steve as systemd-shim maintainer is distinct from

Re: Being part of a community and behaving

2014-11-16 Thread Anthony Towns
On Sun, Nov 16, 2014 at 05:11:47PM -0500, Theodore Ts'o wrote: > > I would, for example, have classified the discussions / arguments in the > > "systemd-sysv | systemd-shim" bug ... > I was really confused that this needed to go to the TC; from what I > could tell, it had no downside systems using

Re: Being part of a community and behaving

2014-11-16 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Nov 16, Theodore Ts'o wrote: > I was really confused that this needed to go to the TC; from what I > could tell, it had no downside systems using systemd, and it made > things better on non-systemd systems. What was the downside of making > the change, and why did it have to go to the TC inst

Re: Pre-Depends: init-system-helpers

2014-11-16 Thread Russ Allbery
Steve Langasek writes: > I am very concerned about the promulgation of init-system-helpers in > general. This helper package has started pulling bloated dependencies > into our base system (bug #757891), I think this is resolved. All of the Perl modules it required except for File::Temp and it

Re: Being part of a community and behaving

2014-11-16 Thread The Wanderer
On 11/16/2014 at 05:11 PM, Theodore Ts'o wrote: > On Sun, Nov 16, 2014 at 09:02:12AM -0500, The Wanderer wrote: > >> I would, for example, have classified the discussions / arguments >> in the "systemd-sysv | systemd-shim" bug which appears to have >> recently been resolved by TC decision as bein

Re: Being part of a community and behaving

2014-11-16 Thread Theodore Ts'o
On Sun, Nov 16, 2014 at 09:02:12AM -0500, The Wanderer wrote: > > I would, for example, have classified the discussions / arguments in the > "systemd-sysv | systemd-shim" bug which appears to have recently been > resolved by TC decision as being an example of what I thought was being > referred to

Re: Pre-Depends: init-system-helpers

2014-11-16 Thread Steve Langasek
On Sat, Nov 15, 2014 at 06:06:17PM +0100, Bastien ROUCARIES wrote: > In order to solve #769551 I need to Pre-Depends: init-system-helpers > Indeed preinst script need it: > /var/lib/dpkg/tmp.ci/preinst: 27: /var/lib/dpkg/tmp.ci/preinst: > deb-systemd-helper: not found > Thus I am asking to add a

Individualized learning

2014-11-16 Thread Melissa White
Hi there, You have been invited to try Lymboo Math by one of your fellow teachers. Your students can benefit from Lymboo Math's differentiated and individualized learning. Lymboo Math has simultaneously enabled teachers to be more effective at their job and improve their students' outcomes. Fin

Re: "unblock request by adsb"?

2014-11-16 Thread Martin Zobel-Helas
Hi, On Sun Nov 16, 2014 at 09:49:19 -0800, Nikolaus Rath wrote: > "Ignoring block request by freeze, due to unblock request by adsb" > > I'm a little confused by that. What is adsb? Do we have some mechanism > that automatically unblocks packages? Or is this just the release team > monitoring up

Re: "unblock request by adsb"?

2014-11-16 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Sun, 16 Nov 2014, Nikolaus Rath wrote: > "Ignoring block request by freeze, due to unblock request by adsb" > > I'm a little confused by that. What is adsb? Do we have some mechanism finger a...@db.debian.org :-) > that automatically unblocks packages? Or is this just the release team > monit

"unblock request by adsb"?

2014-11-16 Thread Nikolaus Rath
Hello, Yesterday I uploaded a newer version of python3-dugong (fixing FTBS bug 69250), and now I was just about to file an unblock request. But then I noticed that https://packages.qa.debian.org/p/python-dugong.html already says: "Ignoring block request by freeze, due to unblock request by adsb"

Bug#769815: ITP: cobbler -- network boot, install and update server

2014-11-16 Thread Thomas Goirand
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Thomas Goirand * Package name: cobbler Version : 2.6.6+dfsg1 Upstream Author : Michael DeHaan * URL : http://www.cobblerd.org/ * License : GPL-2 Programming Lang: Python Description : network boot, install and up

Re: Being part of a community and behaving

2014-11-16 Thread Matthias Urlichs
Hi, Scott Kitterman: > The cure for inappropriate speech is more speech. This sentence lacks a necessary ingredient, i.e. the adjective "appropriate" in front of the last word. -- -- Matthias Urlichs signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: RFC: DEP-14: Recommended layout for Git packaging repositories

2014-11-16 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Sun, 16 Nov 2014, Ron wrote: > On Sat, Nov 15, 2014 at 03:49:56PM -0200, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > > On Sat, 15 Nov 2014, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > > > On Fri, 14 Nov 2014, Ian Jackson wrote: > > > > > What exactly is your use case you feel this is essential for? > > > > > > > > I thi

Re: Being part of a community and behaving

2014-11-16 Thread Scott Kitterman
On November 16, 2014 9:18:51 AM EST, Shachar Shemesh wrote: >On 13/11/14 18:22, Tobias Frost wrote: >> Sometimes, a joke is just inappropriate, regardless how funny it may >seem. >> Sometimes, a joke is better not made, regardless how funny it is. >> >> We have enough bad karma these days, no nee

Re: Being part of a community and behaving

2014-11-16 Thread Philip Hands
The Wanderer writes: ... >> It is very tiresome that all this politicking seems likely to have >> knock-on effects on our normal technical processes long after the >> issues are settled. > > Arguably, if the politicking is still going on, the issues are in some > important sense still not "settled

Re: Being part of a community and behaving

2014-11-16 Thread Shachar Shemesh
On 13/11/14 18:22, Tobias Frost wrote: > Sometimes, a joke is just inappropriate, regardless how funny it may seem. > Sometimes, a joke is better not made, regardless how funny it is. > > We have enough bad karma these days, no need to pour gasoline on the fires. Civility ism after all, so importan

Re: Being part of a community and behaving

2014-11-16 Thread The Wanderer
On 11/16/2014 at 05:15 AM, Philip Hands wrote: > Just to clarify, before someone grasps the wrong end of the stick: > > Philip Hands writes: ... >> of course this subject has now become so sensitive on all sides >> that some people will probably assume that I'm reporting such a bug >> because I

Re: Being part of a community and behaving

2014-11-16 Thread Philip Hands
Just to clarify, before someone grasps the wrong end of the stick: Philip Hands writes: ... > of course this subject has now become so sensitive on all sides that > some people will probably assume that I'm reporting such a bug because > I hate systemd, I realise that that makes it sound like I

Bug#769767: ITP: imageio -- Library for reading and writing a wide range of image formats

2014-11-16 Thread Ghislain Antony Vaillant
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Ghislain Antony Vaillant * Package name: imageio Version : 1.0.0 Upstream Author : Almar Klein * URL : http://imageio.github.io/ * License : BSD Programming Lang: Python Description : Library for reading and writi

Re: RFC: DEP-14: Recommended layout for Git packaging repositories

2014-11-16 Thread Ron
On Sat, Nov 15, 2014 at 06:35:07PM +, Simon McVittie wrote: > On 13/11/14 14:04, Ron wrote: > > I really do think that the names of the branches are actually going to > > be the least of your worries here, unfortunately. Even with a naming > > scheme that's widely adopted, things just aren't g

Re: RFC: DEP-14: Recommended layout for Git packaging repositories

2014-11-16 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Fri, 14 Nov 2014, Thorsten Glaser wrote: > On Fri, 14 Nov 2014, Ian Jackson wrote: > > > expect to find version numbers matching ^\d+\~, then anything matching > > These are common enough for me to have not only seen, > but also used (in native packages, of course) them. Not only in native pa

Re: RFC: DEP-14: Recommended layout for Git packaging repositories

2014-11-16 Thread Ron
On Sat, Nov 15, 2014 at 06:15:33PM +, Simon McVittie wrote: > On 12/11/14 22:07, Ron wrote: > > I am also interested to hear more > > about whatever the confusion was you had with this was when you > > started working with Tollef's systemd repo that you mentioned > > in the previous thread. >