Packaging of web apps: bower, yeoman...

2014-11-08 Thread olivier sallou
Hi, I'd like to know if some developper already packaged web apps using bower/yeoman. Those tools are more and more popular in web development to get web related libraries and , with Grunt, concatenate/minify/obscorate/... used libraries. The issue is, like npm, maven or other tools, they download

Re: Please more fish (was: so long and thanks for all the fish)

2014-11-08 Thread Michael Gilbert
On Sun, Nov 9, 2014 at 12:01 AM, Christoph Anton Mitterer wrote: > On Sat, 2014-11-08 at 23:30 -0500, Michael Gilbert wrote: >> No accusation, just a statement of fact. Four ctte members were >> complicit in the vote [0] > > Well maybe I read that ruling wrong, but didn't it more or less say > "we

Re: Please more fish (was: so long and thanks for all the fish)

2014-11-08 Thread Christoph Anton Mitterer
On Sat, 2014-11-08 at 23:30 -0500, Michael Gilbert wrote: > No accusation, just a statement of fact. Four ctte members were > complicit in the vote [0] Well maybe I read that ruling wrong, but didn't it more or less say "we're not deciding anything right now"? And even if that decision would be

Re: New dash in experimental showing up a widespread bashism in configure scripts

2014-11-08 Thread Paul Wise
On Sat, Nov 8, 2014 at 7:57 PM, Jonathan de Boyne Pollard wrote: > ./configure: 2340: test: xyes: unexpected operator Checking for this sounds like a job for Debian's build log checks, could you contact the maintainer with the appropriate information (tag name, regex, description)? https://qa.de

Re: Please more fish (was: so long and thanks for all the fish)

2014-11-08 Thread Michael Gilbert
On Sat, Nov 8, 2014 at 10:57 PM, Christoph Anton Mitterer wrote: > On Sat, 2014-11-08 at 22:32 -0500, Michael Gilbert wrote: >> You are one of four >> complicit in the act that finally pushed Joey over the edge [0]. > > Don't you think it goes a bit far to personally accusing some people of > this?

Re: Please more fish

2014-11-08 Thread Russ Allbery
Michael Gilbert writes: > On Sat, Nov 8, 2014 at 10:53 PM, Russ Allbery wrote: >> I don't want this to be taken as asking for criticism to be shut down, >> so I'm not asking this of anyone who wants to agree with Michael. If >> you want to do that in public or private, please go ahead. But I wo

Re: Please more fish

2014-11-08 Thread Michael Gilbert
On Sat, Nov 8, 2014 at 10:53 PM, Russ Allbery wrote: > I don't want this to be taken as asking for criticism to be shut down, so > I'm not asking this of anyone who wants to agree with Michael. If you > want to do that in public or private, please go ahead. But I would > greatly appreciate not be

Re: Please more fish (was: so long and thanks for all the fish)

2014-11-08 Thread Christoph Anton Mitterer
On Sat, 2014-11-08 at 22:32 -0500, Michael Gilbert wrote: > You are one of four > complicit in the act that finally pushed Joey over the edge [0]. Don't you think it goes a bit far to personally accusing some people of this? I guess Joey was long enough in the business to have known how to deal wi

Re: Please more fish

2014-11-08 Thread Russ Allbery
Michael Gilbert writes: > On Sat, Nov 8, 2014 at 8:08 PM, Russ Allbery wrote: >> And yet, I don't see how it could have been said better. Thank you so >> much for putting this into words. > How can you possibly think no more need said? You are one of four > complicit in the act that finally pu

Please more fish (was: so long and thanks for all the fish)

2014-11-08 Thread Michael Gilbert
On Sat, Nov 8, 2014 at 8:08 PM, Russ Allbery wrote: > zlatan writes: > >> In advance sorry for all spelling mistake that I will write as I am >> writing from my phone and I am not a native English speaker. > > [...] > > And yet, I don't see how it could have been said better. Thank you so > much f

Re: so long and thanks for all the fish

2014-11-08 Thread Russ Allbery
zlatan writes: > In advance sorry for all spelling mistake that I will write as I am > writing from my phone and I am not a native English speaker. [...] And yet, I don't see how it could have been said better. Thank you so much for putting this into words. > I just want the warm community fe

Re: Re: Bug#741930: reportbug: add current init system information

2014-11-08 Thread Steve Langasek
On Sat, Nov 08, 2014 at 10:15:46AM +, Jonathan de Boyne Pollard wrote: > There isn't really a reliable way to identify any of these as the current > running system, and upstart is not checking the running processes either. > * To check for upstart as the running system manager, one checks

Re: Jessie Freeze -> What is the next release name? (jessie+1)

2014-11-08 Thread Jonathan Wiltshire
On Sat, Nov 08, 2014 at 07:00:07PM +0100, Adam Borowski wrote: > On Sat, Nov 08, 2014 at 06:13:31PM +0100, Javier Barroso wrote: > > > On Wed, Nov 05, 2014 at 11:56:49PM +, Jonathan Wiltshire wrote: > > > > The release team is pleased to announce that Debian 8.0 "Jessie" is > > > > frozen. > >

Re: Jessie Freeze -> What is the next release name? (jessie+1)

2014-11-08 Thread Jerome BENOIT
On 08/11/14 21:04, Adam Borowski wrote: > On Sat, Nov 08, 2014 at 07:46:09PM +0100, Jerome BENOIT wrote: >> On 08/11/14 19:00, Adam Borowski wrote: >>> To prevent such problems in the future, what about choosing the names for >>> both zurg and zurg+1? This way, the codename for zurg+1 would be k

Re: UDD querying jobs on jenkins.d.n (was Re: inconsistent versions of M-A: same packages

2014-11-08 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi Michael, On Samstag, 8. November 2014, Michael Tautschnig wrote: > Have you considered running a groovy script instead of an external shell > script? This may make things easier not really, as I'm not at all groovy with groovy, IOW, I hardly know what it is :) > /avoid the external script de

Re: Jessie Freeze -> What is the next release name? (jessie+1)

2014-11-08 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, On Samstag, 8. November 2014, Niels Thykier wrote: > The release name of Jessie+1 will be announced tomorrow morning > (09:15-10:15 UTC) at the Release update at the Cambridge mini-DebConf. that's not quite sure yet, it depends whether you'll oversleep or not! ;-) cheers, Holger

Re: so long and thanks for all the fish

2014-11-08 Thread Gunnar Wolf
Joey Hess dijo [Fri, Nov 07, 2014 at 05:04:10PM -0400]: > It's become abundantly clear that this is no longer the project I > originally joined in 1996. We've made some good things, and I wish > everyone well, but I'm out. How can the Master Fisherman thank us for all the fish? Yes, pulling the f

Re: Reminder: Removing < 2048 bit keys from the Debian keyrings

2014-11-08 Thread Richard Hartmann
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Re: Jessie Freeze -> What is the next release name? (jessie+1)

2014-11-08 Thread Adam Borowski
On Sat, Nov 08, 2014 at 07:46:09PM +0100, Jerome BENOIT wrote: > On 08/11/14 19:00, Adam Borowski wrote: > > To prevent such problems in the future, what about choosing the names for > > both zurg and zurg+1? This way, the codename for zurg+1 would be known > > during the whole zurg development cy

Re: Moving File::Temp to perl-base

2014-11-08 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Nov 08, Niko Tyni wrote: > The init-system-helpers package uses File::Temp, and init-system-helpers > provides some of Debian's core infrastructure for supporting multiple init > systems by synchronizing service state to systemd from other init system > implementations (enabling users to more

Re: Jessie Freeze -> What is the next release name? (jessie+1)

2014-11-08 Thread Jerome BENOIT
On 08/11/14 19:00, Adam Borowski wrote: > On Sat, Nov 08, 2014 at 06:13:31PM +0100, Javier Barroso wrote: >>> On Wed, Nov 05, 2014 at 11:56:49PM +, Jonathan Wiltshire wrote: The release team is pleased to announce that Debian 8.0 "Jessie" is frozen. >> >>> I thought usually this typ

Re: Jessie Freeze -> What is the next release name? (jessie+1)

2014-11-08 Thread Niels Thykier
On 2014-11-08 18:06, Osamu Aoki wrote: > Hi, > > On Wed, Nov 05, 2014 at 11:56:49PM +, Jonathan Wiltshire wrote: >> The release team is pleased to announce that Debian 8.0 "Jessie" is frozen. >> Further updates to this release will be restricted to bug fixes only. > ... > > I thought usually

Moving File::Temp to perl-base

2014-11-08 Thread Niko Tyni
Hi, I would like to move File::Temp, the standard Perl module for safely creating temporary files and directories, into the perl-base package. This would pull 122KB into essential set, 78KB of which is File::Temp itself. As growing the essential set affects all Debian systems, I think this needs a

Re: UDD querying jobs on jenkins.d.n (was Re: inconsistent versions of M-A: same packages

2014-11-08 Thread Michael Tautschnig
Hi Holger, On Sat, Nov 08, 2014 at 15:12:42 +, Holger Levsen wrote: > Hi, > > On Samstag, 8. November 2014, Holger Levsen wrote: > > It would be trivial to turn this into a jenkins jobs, shall I? > > > > It seems to me, there could be several other UDD querying jobs as well, so > > my first

Re: Jessie Freeze -> What is the next release name? (jessie+1)

2014-11-08 Thread Adam Borowski
On Sat, Nov 08, 2014 at 06:13:31PM +0100, Javier Barroso wrote: > > On Wed, Nov 05, 2014 at 11:56:49PM +, Jonathan Wiltshire wrote: > > > The release team is pleased to announce that Debian 8.0 "Jessie" is > > > frozen. > > > I thought usually this type of announcement comes with next release >

Re: Jessie Freeze -> What is the next release name? (jessie+1)

2014-11-08 Thread Arno Töll
Hi, the next release will be named Debian Zurg[*]. [*] soon to be announced, I'm sure. -- with kind regards, Arno Töll IRC: daemonkeeper on Freenode/OFTC GnuPG Key-ID: 0x9D80F36D signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: so long and thanks for all the fish

2014-11-08 Thread Florian Lohoff
Hi, On Fri, Nov 07, 2014 at 05:04:10PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote: > It's become abundantly clear that this is no longer the project I > originally joined in 1996. We've made some good things, and I wish > everyone well, but I'm out. I share your feelings. Back in those days you and Joey were the rea

Re: Jessie Freeze -> What is the next release name? (jessie+1)

2014-11-08 Thread Javier Barroso
It would be useful to know it : https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=766283 Regards El 08/11/2014 18:07, "Osamu Aoki" escribió: > Hi, > > On Wed, Nov 05, 2014 at 11:56:49PM +, Jonathan Wiltshire wrote: > > The release team is pleased to announce that Debian 8.0 "Jessie" is > fro

Re: Reminder: Removing < 2048 bit keys from the Debian keyrings

2014-11-08 Thread Thijs Kinkhorst
On Sat, November 8, 2014 17:09, Jonathan McDowell wrote: > We had hoped to be down to a small number of special cases to deal with > by this point, but with the numbers still looking this bad we're not > yet at a stage where we can work out appropriate next steps for those > special cases. In the

Jessie Freeze -> What is the next release name? (jessie+1)

2014-11-08 Thread Osamu Aoki
Hi, On Wed, Nov 05, 2014 at 11:56:49PM +, Jonathan Wiltshire wrote: > The release team is pleased to announce that Debian 8.0 "Jessie" is frozen. > Further updates to this release will be restricted to bug fixes only. ... I thought usually this type of announcement comes with next release nam

Re: so long and thanks for all the fish

2014-11-08 Thread Yaroslav Halchenko
On Sat, 08 Nov 2014, Michael Hanke wrote: > If I have one regret from my 18 years in Debian, it's that when the > Debian constitution was originally proposed, despite seeing it as > dubious, I neglected to speak out against it. It's clear to me > now that it's a toxic document,

Re: UDD querying jobs on jenkins.d.n (was Re: inconsistent versions of M-A: same packages

2014-11-08 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, On Samstag, 8. November 2014, Holger Levsen wrote: > It would be trivial to turn this into a jenkins jobs, shall I? > > It seems to me, there could be several other UDD querying jobs as well, so > my first suggestion for a name (+namespace) would be > "udd_multiarch_inconsistencies"... sugges

Re: so long and thanks for all the fish

2014-11-08 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Samstag, 8. November 2014, 10:19:02 schrieb Martin Steigerwald: > Joey, > > Am Freitag, 7. November 2014, 17:04:10 schrieb Joey Hess: > > It's become abundantly clear that this is no longer the project I > > originally joined in 1996. We've made some good things, and I wish > > everyone well, b

Re: Bad weather in testing ? (was: Re: inconsistent versions of M-A: same packages)

2014-11-08 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi Ralf, On Freitag, 7. November 2014, Ralf Treinen wrote: > > The bad weather in > > https://qa.debian.org/dose/debcheck/testing_main/index.html is still > > surprising to see, at this point... > not at all ! The weather icons are a bit misleading (this is one reason > why I wasn't such a big fan

UDD querying jobs on jenkins.d.n (was Re: inconsistent versions of M-A: same packages

2014-11-08 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, On Samstag, 8. November 2014, Stuart Prescott wrote: > UDD can help with this. of course! :-) > A list of source packages that have M-A: same binary packages in jessie > that have different versions in any two release architectures is at: > > http://debian.nanonanonano.net/qa/maskew >

jenkins-triggers (Re: inconsistent versions of M-A: same packages

2014-11-08 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, On Freitag, 7. November 2014, Johannes Schauer wrote: > is jenkins not triggered by pushes to git and thus sub-optimal for jobs > that should be run like a cron job? jenkins can be triggered by many things, currently jobs on jenkins.d.n are triggered - time based - VCS commit based - after

Re: New dash in experimental showing up a widespread bashism in configure scripts

2014-11-08 Thread Jonathan de Boyne Pollard
Gerrit Pape: Hi, I'd very appreciate help on tracking down the failures and do > the appropriate analysis, reportbug, patch drafting, and the like, as > my time for this is quite limited. I took a handful of packages as a sample, and the problem could be traced to the same bug, over and over,

Re: so long and thanks for all the fish

2014-11-08 Thread David L. Craig
> On Fri, 07 Nov 2014, Joey Hess wrote: > > originally joined in 1996. We've made some good things, and I wish > > everyone well, but I'm out. So long, and thanks for all the damn hard work and working code. May you live long, prosper, and continue to inspire others to greatness. -- May the LOR

Re: so long and thanks for all the fish

2014-11-08 Thread Michael Hanke
On Fri, Nov 7, 2014 at 10:04 PM, Joey Hess wrote: > If I have one regret from my 18 years in Debian, it's that when the > Debian constitution was originally proposed, despite seeing it as > dubious, I neglected to speak out against it. It's clear to me > now that it's a toxic document, that has s

Re: inconsistent versions of M-A: same packages

2014-11-08 Thread Ralf Jung
Hi, > Dpkg and apt allow this just fine. Try to do: > > apt-get install --simulate gcc-4.9-arm-linux-gnueabihf > > And you will end up with a number of armhf packages on your system (you have > to > enable armhf beforehand of course). Interesting, I didn't know that syntax is already supported

Re: so long and thanks for all the fish

2014-11-08 Thread Roman Czyborra
2014-11-08[Sat]11:38 Roman Czyborra read that 2014-11-08[Sat]10:46 Faidon Liambotis wrote <545de691.2090...@debian.org>: Extremely sad to read this, Joey. The few times we've crossed paths, I've enjoyed working with you (and on your ideas) incredibly. And of course I am -as we are all- enjoying

Re: Re: Bug#741930: reportbug: add current init system information

2014-11-08 Thread Jonathan de Boyne Pollard
Sandro Tosi: what is the recommended way to identify sysvinit? from the info > provided above one requires to check a dir existence and the > checking a command and then execute it to parse its output. it seems > a bit fragile, and maybe only upstart check really the running > processes There

Re: so long and thanks for all the fish

2014-11-08 Thread Faidon Liambotis
On 11/07/14 23:04, Joey Hess wrote: It's become abundantly clear that this is no longer the project I originally joined in 1996. We've made some good things, and I wish everyone well, but I'm out. Extremely sad to read this, Joey. The few times we've crossed paths, I've enjoyed working with yo

Re: Bug#767617: ITP: calculix-ccx -- CalculiX CrunchiX is a three dimensional structual Finite Element Solver

2014-11-08 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sat, Nov 01, 2014 at 03:10:03PM +0100, Wolfgang Fuetterer wrote: > Package: wnpp > Severity: wishlist > Owner: Wolfgang Fuetterer > > * Package name: calculix-ccx > Version : 2.7 > Upstream Author : Guido Dhondt > * URL : http://www.calculix.de/ > * License

Re: so long and thanks for all the fish

2014-11-08 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting Joey Hess (2014-11-07 22:04:10) > It's become abundantly clear that this is no longer the project I > originally joined in 1996. We've made some good things, and I wish > everyone well, but I'm out. :-( I am very sad that you leave. But also curious where you will go from here - many

Re: so long and thanks for all the fish

2014-11-08 Thread Norbert Preining
On Fri, 07 Nov 2014, Joey Hess wrote: > originally joined in 1996. We've made some good things, and I wish > everyone well, but I'm out. So long, and thanks for all the fish. We will miss you. Norbert PREINING, Norbert

Re: so long and thanks for all the fish

2014-11-08 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Joey, Am Freitag, 7. November 2014, 17:04:10 schrieb Joey Hess: > It's become abundantly clear that this is no longer the project I > originally joined in 1996. We've made some good things, and I wish > everyone well, but I'm out. I am sad from reading this. I do not know you as a person, except