Re: New package tracker - old one going?

2014-09-15 Thread Paul Wise
On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 5:15 AM, Iain R. Learmonth wrote: > I notice that packages.qa.debian.org is advertising the new package tracker. > Does this mean the old package tracker there is going to disappear? It will go away eventually once the new tracker has equivalent functionality. > I was goi

Re: Subject=Re: Can a leaf package require SSE2 on i386?

2014-09-15 Thread Vincent Danjean
On 15/09/2014 22:28, Barak A. Pearlmutter wrote: > The package "ikarus", another programming language implementation, > also requires SSE2 support. > There is a check in the preinst script which aborts installation if > sse2 is unavailable. > > case "$1" in > install|upgrade) > if egre

Re: Trimming priority:standard

2014-09-15 Thread James McCoy
On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 03:54:21AM +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote: > On Sep 16, James McCoy wrote: > > > As I said in my other reply, the intent of vim-tiny is to provide a vi > > command. The fact that it is using Vim to do so is the means, not the > > end. > I think it's more complex than this: I l

Re: Trimming priority:standard

2014-09-15 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Sep 16, James McCoy wrote: > As I said in my other reply, the intent of vim-tiny is to provide a vi > command. The fact that it is using Vim to do so is the means, not the > end. I think it's more complex than this: I like vim-tiny because I can use it on small images without wasting space f

Re: Trimming priority:standard

2014-09-15 Thread James McCoy
On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 10:07:08PM +0200, Jonas Meurer wrote: > Am 13.09.2014 um 12:58 schrieb Didier 'OdyX' Raboud: > > Le vendredi, 12 septembre 2014, 13.55:53 Joey Hess a écrit : > >> Theodore Ts'o wrote: > >>> One thought... there will probably be trademark concerns with > >>> "unix".[1] So we

Re: Trimming priority:standard

2014-09-15 Thread Martin Eberhard Schauer
I wonder whether the POV in this discussion is right. I have the impression that the discussion is about the removal of "old" packages. Squeeze had 91 standard packages, now there are 108. The latest one: doc-debian. When libsqlcipher0 (1) hit standard I also had doubts that its functionality jus

Re: Trimming priority:standard

2014-09-15 Thread Santiago Vila
On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 06:16:47PM +0200, Matthias Urlichs wrote: > And perl, which has the advantage of an '-e' switch. > > Or [m]awk, which is even Required (is there still a reason for that?). AWK is mentioned in the Single UNIX Specification as one of the mandatory utilities of a Unix operati

Re: Can a leaf package require SSE2 on i386?

2014-09-15 Thread Samuel Thibault
Thomas Goirand, le Mon 15 Sep 2014 20:45:27 +0800, a écrit : > On 09/15/2014 05:17 PM, Samuel Thibault wrote: > > Thomas Goirand, le Mon 15 Sep 2014 16:53:25 +0800, a écrit : > >> I suppose (according to what's above) that using > >> /usr/lib/sse4.2/x86_64-linux-gnu isn't supported (yet), right? >

New package tracker - old one going?

2014-09-15 Thread Iain R. Learmonth
Hi, I notice that packages.qa.debian.org is advertising the new package tracker. Does this mean the old package tracker there is going to disappear? I was going to build something for tracking team packages using the RDF generated by the tracker at packages.qa.debian.org but if it's going to disa

Re: Trimming priority:standard

2014-09-15 Thread Russ Allbery
Bob Proulx writes: > James McCoy wrote: >> I keep contemplating packaging ex-vi and advocating to replace vim-tiny >> with that. After all, the intent is to have something providing >> /usr/bin/vi, as one expects to have on a *nix system, so why not have >> it actually be vi? > The package is a

Subject=Re: Can a leaf package require SSE2 on i386?

2014-09-15 Thread Barak A. Pearlmutter
The package "ikarus", another programming language implementation, also requires SSE2 support. There is a check in the preinst script which aborts installation if sse2 is unavailable. case "$1" in install|upgrade) if egrep -q '^flags[[:space:]]*:.*\bsse2\b' /proc/cpuinfo; then

Re: Trimming priority:standard

2014-09-15 Thread Jonas Meurer
Am 13.09.2014 um 12:58 schrieb Didier 'OdyX' Raboud: > Le vendredi, 12 septembre 2014, 13.55:53 Joey Hess a écrit : >> Theodore Ts'o wrote: >>> One thought... there will probably be trademark concerns with >>> "unix".[1] So we might have to choose a name for the tasksel task >>> to be someting like

Bug#761704: ITP: aprx -- APRS iGate + digipeater

2014-09-15 Thread Iain R. Learmonth
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: "Iain R. Learmonth" * Package name: aprx Version : 2.08.593 Upstream Author : Matti Aarnio, OH2MQK * URL : http://ham.zmailer.org/oh2mqk/aprx/ * License : BSD-3-clause Programming Lang: C Description : APRS iGate

Re: Trimming priority:standard

2014-09-15 Thread Bob Proulx
James McCoy wrote: > Bob Proulx wrote: > > James McCoy wrote: > > > I keep contemplating packaging ex-vi and advocating to replace vim-tiny > > > with that. After all, the intent is to have something providing > > > /usr/bin/vi, as one expects to have on a *nix system, so why not have it > > > act

Re: Trimming priority:standard

2014-09-15 Thread James McCoy
On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 10:56:16AM -0600, Bob Proulx wrote: > James McCoy wrote: > > I keep contemplating packaging ex-vi and advocating to replace vim-tiny > > with that. After all, the intent is to have something providing > > /usr/bin/vi, as one expects to have on a *nix system, so why not have

Re: Can a leaf package require SSE2 on i386?

2014-09-15 Thread Håkon Alstadheim
On 15. sep. 2014 18:50, Colin Watson wrote: On Sun, Sep 14, 2014 at 04:40:14PM +0200, Adrien Clerc wrote: I'm in the category of people who installed their Debian 8 years ago, on an old AMD processor, only i686. My hardware was upgraded since, but the system remains. I've searched for cross-grad

Re: Trimming priority:standard

2014-09-15 Thread Bob Proulx
James McCoy wrote: > I keep contemplating packaging ex-vi and advocating to replace vim-tiny > with that. After all, the intent is to have something providing > /usr/bin/vi, as one expects to have on a *nix system, so why not have it > actually be vi? The package is already done. apt-cache sho

Re: Can a leaf package require SSE2 on i386?

2014-09-15 Thread Colin Watson
On Sun, Sep 14, 2014 at 04:40:14PM +0200, Adrien Clerc wrote: > I'm in the category of people who installed their Debian 8 years ago, on > an old AMD processor, only i686. My hardware was upgraded since, but the > system remains. I've searched for cross-grade, but nothing serious comes > out, excep

Re: Trimming priority:standard

2014-09-15 Thread Matthias Urlichs
Hi, Jonathan Dowland: > On Fri, Sep 12, 2014 at 03:49:11PM +0200, Thorsten Glaser wrote: > > bc is the standard Unix calculator, normally a dc frontend, > > and used in *a lot* of scripts. > > Is there any way of verifying or even reasonably estimating how common it is > used? *Within* debian, s

Maintainer/home wanted for DDE (Debian Data Export / dde.debian.net)

2014-09-15 Thread Thijs Kinkhorst
All, The 'rapt-file' tool shipped in apt-file uses dde.debian.net to query for filenames, obviating the need to download Contents files before you can search. Unfortunately, dde.debian.net is down and we, the apt-file maintainers, got reports that therefore, rapt-file has become useless. I've tal

Re: Trimming priority:standard

2014-09-15 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Mon, 2014-09-15 at 14:53 +0100, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > On Fri, Sep 12, 2014 at 03:49:11PM +0200, Thorsten Glaser wrote: > > bc is the standard Unix calculator, normally a dc frontend, > > and used in *a lot* of scripts. > > Is there any way of verifying or even reasonably estimating how comm

Bug#761665: ITP: r-cran-vioplot -- GNU R toolbox for violin plots

2014-09-15 Thread Andreas Tille
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Andreas Tille * Package name: r-cran-vioplot Version : 0.2 Upstream Author : Daniel Adler * URL : http://cran.r-project.org/web/packages/vioplot/index.html * License : BSD Programming Lang: R Description : GNU R

Re: Trimming priority:standard

2014-09-15 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, On Montag, 15. September 2014, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > > Perhaps > > task-traditional -- Traditional Unix utilities > I quite like that. FWIW, me too. (I also liked "task-unix" or "task-unix-like", but less.) Thanks for cleaning up priority:standard! cheers, Holger signatur

Re: Trimming priority:standard

2014-09-15 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Fri, Sep 12, 2014 at 03:49:11PM +0200, Thorsten Glaser wrote: > bc is the standard Unix calculator, normally a dc frontend, > and used in *a lot* of scripts. Is there any way of verifying or even reasonably estimating how common it is used? *Within* debian, sadly it's hard to ascertain via cod

Re: Trimming priority:standard

2014-09-15 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Fri, Sep 12, 2014 at 06:27:38PM +0100, Simon McVittie wrote: > On 12/09/14 18:19, Theodore Ts'o wrote: > > One thought... there will probably be trademark concerns with "unix".[1] > > So we might have to choose a name for the tasksel task to be someting > > like "unix-like". > > Perhaps > >

Re: Trimming priority:standard

2014-09-15 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Fri, Sep 12, 2014 at 03:44:46AM +0200, Adam Borowski wrote: > You want 'nc myserver 25', as 'telnet myserver 25' will misbehave on 0xff > bytes. A malicious server can do pretty surprising things to you, too. You're both wrong; you want swaks(1). -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-req

Re: Can a leaf package require SSE2 on i386?

2014-09-15 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 09/15/2014 05:17 PM, Samuel Thibault wrote: > Thomas Goirand, le Mon 15 Sep 2014 16:53:25 +0800, a écrit : >> I suppose (according to what's above) that using >> /usr/lib/sse4.2/x86_64-linux-gnu isn't supported (yet), right? > > I guess it shouldn't be hard to add the support, once the need is

Re: locale choices: , C, C.UTF-8, en_US.UTF-8 and availability

2014-09-15 Thread Jakub Wilk
* Colin Watson , 2014-09-15, 11:23: There are some packages which care about more details of the locale, for a variety of good and bad reasons (I've seen ones that naïvely decompose it and try to use the language part as a directory name, for instance), and those are more difficult to handle.

Re: Trimming priority:standard

2014-09-15 Thread Fabian Greffrath
Am Freitag, den 12.09.2014, 08:59 +0200 schrieb Fabian Greffrath: > > apt-listchanges aptitude aptitude-common at bash-completion bc dc bind9-host > Why is aptitude still in this list? This has not been answered yet?! - Fabian -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...

Re: locale choices: , C, C.UTF-8, en_US.UTF-8 and availability

2014-09-15 Thread Colin Watson
On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 01:42:32AM +0900, Osamu Aoki wrote: > LANG = C.UTF-8 (Not defined in anywhere easily found but available) > System can always be set this way under Jessie(??) and system acts > 100% POSIX manner for ASCII characters while not corrupting UTF-8 > character processing. > N

Re: Can a leaf package require SSE2 on i386?

2014-09-15 Thread Samuel Thibault
Thomas Goirand, le Mon 15 Sep 2014 16:53:25 +0800, a écrit : > I suppose (according to what's above) that using > /usr/lib/sse4.2/x86_64-linux-gnu isn't supported (yet), right? I guess it shouldn't be hard to add the support, once the need is expressed :) Samuel -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to deb

Bug#761633: ITP: python-xstatic-jquery.bootstrap.wizard -- JQuery.Bootstrap.Wizard XStatic support

2014-09-15 Thread Thomas Goirand
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Thomas Goirand * Package name: python-xstatic-jquery.bootstrap.wizard Version : 1.0.0.1 Upstream Author : Radomir Dopieralski * URL : https://github.com/stackforge/xstatic-jquery.bootstrap.wizard * License : MIT/Expat a

Bug#761631: ITP: aprsc -- APRS-IS server in C

2014-09-15 Thread Iain R. Learmonth
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: "Iain R. Learmonth" * Package name: aprsc Version : 2.0.14 Upstream Author : Matti Aarnio, OH2MQK * URL : http://he.fi/aprsc/ * License : BSD Programming Lang: C Description : APRS-IS server in C aprsc (pronounce

Re: Can a leaf package require SSE2 on i386?

2014-09-15 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 09/15/2014 04:04 PM, Mathieu Malaterre wrote: > On Sun, Sep 14, 2014 at 8:47 AM, Sébastien Villemot > wrote: >> Hi, >> >> As the maintainer of julia (a technical computing language built on top >> of LLVM), I am wondering whether I should continue supporting the i386 >> architecture. >> >> The

Bug#761630: ITP: gosa-plugin-netgroups -- NIS netgroups plugin for GOsa²

2014-09-15 Thread Mike Gabriel
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Mike Gabriel * Package name: gosa-plugin-netgroups Version : 0.1~svn652 Upstream Author : Alejandro Escanero Blanco * URL : https://oss.gonicus.de/repositories/gosa-contrib/netgroups/trunk * License : GPL Programming

Re: Can a leaf package require SSE2 on i386?

2014-09-15 Thread Mathieu Malaterre
On Sun, Sep 14, 2014 at 8:47 AM, Sébastien Villemot wrote: > Hi, > > As the maintainer of julia (a technical computing language built on top > of LLVM), I am wondering whether I should continue supporting the i386 > architecture. > > The bottom line is that julia needs SSE2 (and porting it to the

Re: Can a leaf package require SSE2 on i386?

2014-09-15 Thread Helmut Grohne
On Sun, Sep 14, 2014 at 07:47:27AM +0100, Sébastien Villemot wrote: > The bottom line is that julia needs SSE2 (and porting it to the x87 FPU > requires changes that are beyond what I am willing/able to do, see [1] > for more details). And the presence of SSE2 is not guaranteed on the > i386 archit

Re: Trimming priority:standard

2014-09-15 Thread Josh Triplett
Tollef Fog Heen wrote: > ]] Josh Triplett > > > - mlocate. We don't need a "locate" in standard; anyone who actually > > uses locate (and wants the very significant overhead of running a > > locate daemon) can easily install this. > > There is no «locate daemon» in mlocate. s/daemon/cron j