Re: people.debian.org will move from ravel to paradis and become HTTPS only

2014-07-23 Thread Peter Palfrader
On Mon, 21 Jul 2014, Jakub Wilk wrote: > * Peter Palfrader , 2014-07-20, 12:07: > >we have been moving towards https for most services over the last > >12 months. > > Is that intentional that the http->https redirect for bugs.d.o is > only temporary (302)? Should we update devscripts and > python

Re: people.debian.org will move from ravel to paradis and become HTTPS only

2014-07-23 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi! On Mon, 2014-07-21 at 19:44:18 +0200, Jakub Wilk wrote: > * Peter Palfrader , 2014-07-20, 12:07: > >we have been moving towards https for most services over the last 12 > >months. > > Is that intentional that the http->https redirect for bugs.d.o is only > temporary (302)? Should we update de

Re: all modern desktops need systemd, either send patches or life with it (Re: systemd now appears to be only possible init system in testing)

2014-07-23 Thread Russ Allbery
Vincent Lefevre writes: > On 2014-07-22 19:54:10 -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: >> logind is also not mandatory in Debian now. It's just required, >> upstream, by all the major desktop environments. > Not just by all the major desktop environments. It is also needed by > hplip via dependencies[*],

Re: all modern desktops need systemd, either send patches or life with it (Re: systemd now appears to be only possible init system in testing)

2014-07-23 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2014-07-22 19:54:10 -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > logind is also not mandatory in Debian now. It's just required, upstream, > by all the major desktop environments. Not just by all the major desktop environments. It is also needed by hplip via dependencies[*], which is quite surprising for a "H

Bug#755838: ITP: perf-tools -- DTrace-like tools for linux

2014-07-23 Thread Sebastien Delafond
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Sebastien Delafond Package name: perf-tools Version : 0.0.1~20140723+git942be0b3 Upstream Author : Brendan Gregg * URL : https://github.com/brendangregg/perf-tools * License : GPL-2 Programming Lang: Shell

Re: systemd now appears to be only possible init system in testing

2014-07-23 Thread Agustin Martin
On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 10:54:55PM +0100, Julian Gilbey wrote: > I just tried updating testing on my system. I currently use > sysvinit-core (reasons below), but aptitude is telling me that I > should remove this in favour of systemd-sysv. Hmm, why is that? > Well, because the new version of libp

Bug#755832: ITP: pyjwt -- Python implementation of JSON Web Token

2014-07-23 Thread Daniele Tricoli
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Daniele Tricoli * Package name: pyjwt Version : 0.2.1 Upstream Author : Jeff Lindsay * URL : http://github.com/progrium/pyjwt * License : Expat Programming Lang: Python Description : Python implementation of JSON

Re: all modern desktops need systemd, either send patches or life with it (Re: systemd now appears to be only possible init system in testing)

2014-07-23 Thread Russ Allbery
Juliusz Chroboczek writes: >> However, you're doing this during boot, so there *are* no active users, >> since the system hasn't come up far enough to let anyone log in yet. So >> it makes sense that you don't get a prompt. > Does that mean that the new pid 1 expects users to be logged in befor

PHP license: it seems that the issue still not over

2014-07-23 Thread Thomas Goirand
Hi, On the old thread we had on debian-devel, I had the impression that nobody opposed to my points of argumentation, that things from pear.php.net were PHP, and have been considered as such by the FTP masters, and therefore, were fine with PHP license 3.01. I thought the FTP masters agreed with m

Bug#755825: ITP: tcpcrypt -- opportunistically encrypt network transport

2014-07-23 Thread Daniel Kahn Gillmor
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Daniel Kahn Gillmor * Package name: tcpcrypt Version : 0.2 Upstream Author : Andrea Bittau * URL : http://www.tcpcrypt.org/ * License : BSD Programming Lang: C Description : opportunistically encrypt network tran

Re: systemd now appears to be only possible init system in testing

2014-07-23 Thread Matthias Urlichs
Hi, Juliusz Chroboczek: > I don't think the comparison between texlive and systemd is quite fair. Any comparison will have its "apples vs. potatoes" aspects. That doesn't invalidate the comparable parts. > I still believe that this is just bad coordination and bad communi- > cation on the part o

Re: linux-image-3.14-2-armmp description out of date

2014-07-23 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Wed, 2014-07-23 at 13:51 +0100, David Goodenough wrote: > On Wednesday 23 July 2014 13:05:11 Ben Hutchings wrote: > > On Wed, 2014-07-23 at 09:31 +0100, Ian Campbell wrote: [...] > > > * As David observed upthread the list is bound to get out of date. > > > * The link between "Suppor

Re: systemd now appears to be only possible init system in testing

2014-07-23 Thread Juliusz Chroboczek
> I'm sure the texlive maintainers feel perfectly justified in breaking > existing setups and causing packages to FTBFS by doing this. I don't think the comparison between texlive and systemd is quite fair. Texlive updates don't break users' systems, they just make some packages temporarily un-up

Re: all modern desktops need systemd, either send patches or life with it (Re: systemd now appears to be only possible init system in testing)

2014-07-23 Thread Juliusz Chroboczek
> However, you're doing this during boot, so there *are* no active users, > since the system hasn't come up far enough to let anyone log in yet. So > it makes sense that you don't get a prompt. Does that mean that the new pid 1 expects users to be logged in before it starts the system? -- Julius

Re: systemd now appears to be only possible init system in testing

2014-07-23 Thread Stuart Prescott
Hi Norbert, Please remember these arguments you have been making next time you make what you believe are perfectly justified changes to the texlive packaging by (once again) introducing new and incompatible versions of sty files or moving files between packages. I'm sure the texlive maintainer

Re: linux-image-3.14-2-armmp description out of date

2014-07-23 Thread David Goodenough
On Wednesday 23 July 2014 13:05:11 Ben Hutchings wrote: > On Wed, 2014-07-23 at 09:31 +0100, Ian Campbell wrote: > > On Tue, 2014-07-22 at 20:50 +0100, Ben Hutchings wrote: > > > On Tue, 2014-07-22 at 20:18 +0100, David Goodenough wrote: > > > > In the above package the description reads:- > > > >

Re: Solutions for the Apache upgrade hell

2014-07-23 Thread Jeroen Dekkers
At Wed, 23 Jul 2014 01:52:30 +0200, Arno Töll wrote: > However, if you call aptitude --purge-unused: > > - apt purges apache2.2-common. This calls apache2.2-common's postrm > purge, wiping all our configuration > - install apache2{-bin,-data} > - preinst apache2 detects an upgrade, but has no clue

Re: linux-image-3.14-2-armmp description out of date

2014-07-23 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Wed, 2014-07-23 at 09:31 +0100, Ian Campbell wrote: > On Tue, 2014-07-22 at 20:50 +0100, Ben Hutchings wrote: > > On Tue, 2014-07-22 at 20:18 +0100, David Goodenough wrote: > > > In the above package the description reads:- > > > > > > The Linux kernel 3.14 and modules for use on ARMv7 multipla

Re: systemd now appears to be only possible init system in testing

2014-07-23 Thread Thorsten Glaser
Cameron Norman wrote: >I noticed that not doing the libraries cause apt to try to upgrade them >on dist-upgrade and do some weird operations like try to remove my >current init system and install systemd-sysv or remove all of systemd, >as well as NM and udisks and a lot of other packages. FWIW, t

Re: systemd now appears to be only possible init system in testing

2014-07-23 Thread Sune Vuorela
On 2014-07-23, Sune Vuorela wrote: > On 2014-07-23, Thomas Goirand wrote: > and you doesn't again say "Let's have > someone run over specific developers with a bus", then the CoC is good. Dear Thomas I sincerely apologize for the above line. Somehow my internal memory mixed up one T... G... wit

Re: systemd now appears to be only possible init system in testing

2014-07-23 Thread Sune Vuorela
On 2014-07-23, Thomas Goirand wrote: > If the CoC makes it impossible for Norbert to express himself in the way > he just did, then the CoC is bad and should be repelled. If the CoC helps ensure that Norbert doesn't again say "I don't give a shit about other people's work" - and you doesn't again

Re: linux-image-3.14-2-armmp description out of date

2014-07-23 Thread Ian Campbell
On Tue, 2014-07-22 at 20:50 +0100, Ben Hutchings wrote: > On Tue, 2014-07-22 at 20:18 +0100, David Goodenough wrote: > > In the above package the description reads:- > > > > The Linux kernel 3.14 and modules for use on ARMv7 multiplatform kernel for > > Marvell Armada 370/xp, Freescale iMX5x/iMX6

Re: systemd now appears to be only possible init system in testing

2014-07-23 Thread Matthias Urlichs
Hi, Thomas Goirand: > If the CoC makes it impossible for Norbert to express himself in the way > he just did, then the CoC is bad and should be repelled. > *repealed. I disagree. Insinuating that the systemd proponents' goal is >> "One init to rule them all, to bind them, and throw them into dar

Re: Running autopkgtest at package upload time

2014-07-23 Thread Ansgar Burchardt
Hi, Antonio Terceiro writes: > On Tue, Jul 08, 2014 at 05:18:21PM +0200, Ansgar Burchardt wrote: >> incoming.d.o has a proper APT repository which has, amongst others, a >> buildd-unstable suite including the last uploads. It's not not >> accessible by the general public, [...] >> but I'm sure we

Re: systemd now appears to be only possible init system in testing

2014-07-23 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 07/23/2014 07:46 AM, Ben Finney wrote: > Writing a disclaimer doesn't exempt you from the Code of conduct in > Debian forums. Please don't violate it again. If the CoC makes it impossible for Norbert to express himself in the way he just did, then the CoC is bad and should be repelled. I'm get