Re: libnss consolidation (was: Re: X.509 and CA certificates for other purposes (i.e. the IGTF))

2013-06-09 Thread Bastien ROUCARIES
Le 10 juin 2013 07:06, "Florian Weimer" a écrit : > > * Bastien ROUCARIES: > > > Maybe crypto consolidation arround libnss will greatly help here. > > jessie release goal ? > > NSS has lots of global state, and its proper initialization from > another library is difficult. Could you give some poi

Re: security policy / root passwords

2013-06-09 Thread Helmut Grohne
On Sun, Jun 09, 2013 at 07:41:34PM +0200, Daniel Pocock wrote: > My feeling is that the user should be told "go and run sudo or su in a > terminal window you opened manually" > > Otherwise, they can't be sure they are putting their password in a > genuine Debian popup. Please explain your threat

libnss consolidation (was: Re: X.509 and CA certificates for other purposes (i.e. the IGTF))

2013-06-09 Thread Florian Weimer
* Bastien ROUCARIES: > Maybe crypto consolidation arround libnss will greatly help here. > jessie release goal ? NSS has lots of global state, and its proper initialization from another library is difficult. Switching over to it is probably doable, but it's not really straightforward. On the ot

Re: Survey answers part 1: systemd has too many dependencies, …

2013-06-09 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 06/10/2013 03:21 AM, Michael Stapelberg wrote: > Hi Thomas, > > Thomas Goirand writes: >> In this blog post, you tell that it's possible not to use all the >> components of systemd. Then, the immediate question that pops to my >> mind: what are *your* intentions then, in Debian (or, said in an

Re: ITP: foreman -- manage Procfile-based applications

2013-06-09 Thread Faidon Liambotis
On 06/10/13 03:46, Per Andersson wrote: * Package name: foreman Version : 0.63.0 Upstream Author : David Dollar * URL : http://github.com/ddollar/foreman * License : MIT Programming Lang: Ruby Description : manage Procfile-based applications For

ITP: foreman -- manage Procfile-based applications

2013-06-09 Thread Per Andersson
Subject: ITP: foreman -- manage Procfile-based applications Package: wnpp Owner: Per Andersson Severity: wishlist * Package name: foreman Version : 0.63.0 Upstream Author : David Dollar * URL : http://github.com/ddollar/foreman * License : MIT Programming La

Re: security policy / root passwords

2013-06-09 Thread Chow Loong Jin
On Sun, Jun 09, 2013 at 01:06:40PM -0700, Robert Holtzman wrote: > [...] > In my gross stupidity this seems like a nonissue. How does a popup > asking for your root p/w differ from using the CLI, typing "su" and > being asked for the root p/w? I'm assuming that the popup was in > connection with a

How to bump the SONAME of a library ? [WAS: DH way to set SONAME]

2013-06-09 Thread Jerome BENOIT
Hello List, I am not so sure what I must understand by `bump the SONAME': given that libtool machinery is employed, does is mean that `current' must be increased by one ? Thanks in advance, Jerome -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe

ITP: vmdebootstrap -- Bootstrap Debian into a (virtual machine) disk image

2013-06-09 Thread Neil Williams
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Neil Williams * Package name: vmdebootstrap Version : 0.1.0 Upstream Author : Lars Wirzenius * URL : https://gitorious.org/vmdebootstrap * License : GPL3 Programming Lang: Python Description : Bootstrap Debian in

Re: Survey answers part 1: systemd has too many dependencies, …

2013-06-09 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
]] Robert Collins > On 10 June 2013 07:21, Michael Stapelberg wrote: > > Hi Thomas, > > > > Thomas Goirand writes: > >> In this blog post, you tell that it's possible not to use all the > >> components of systemd. Then, the immediate question that pops to my > >> mind: what are *your* intention

Re: security policy / root passwords

2013-06-09 Thread Robert Holtzman
On Sun, Jun 09, 2013 at 07:20:16PM +0200, Michael Banck wrote: > On Sun, Jun 09, 2013 at 06:45:18PM +0200, Daniel Pocock wrote: > > There have been multiple complaints about the new Gnome popup asking > > for the root password > > I am not sure what you are complaining about - that you need to spe

Creating a new team Pascal4Debian

2013-06-09 Thread Abou Al Montacir
Hi All, As FPC & Lazarus are getting more and more success and as there are a few programs that are now using them, I'm considering creating a new team for taking care of both tools, but also supporting other programs based on Pascal. This mail is just to allow interested persons to know about it

Re: Survey answers part 1: systemd has too many dependencies, …

2013-06-09 Thread Robert Collins
On 10 June 2013 07:21, Michael Stapelberg wrote: > Hi Thomas, > > Thomas Goirand writes: >> In this blog post, you tell that it's possible not to use all the >> components of systemd. Then, the immediate question that pops to my >> mind: what are *your* intentions then, in Debian (or, said in ano

Re: Survey answers part 1: systemd has too many dependencies, …

2013-06-09 Thread Michael Stapelberg
Hi Thomas, Thomas Goirand writes: > In this blog post, you tell that it's possible not to use all the > components of systemd. Then, the immediate question that pops to my > mind: what are *your* intentions then, in Debian (or, said in another > way, what would you like to do if you where the onl

Re: Why not to let all DDs to execute "gb"-command

2013-06-09 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Wed, Jun 05, 2013 at 09:10:39PM +0200, Anton Gladky wrote: > Dear all, > > I have a proposal to give a permission to all DDs to restart builds on > failing archs e.g. execute "gb-command". > > I think, most of developers are clever enough to define, whether the > built failed "accidentally" an

Re: security policy / root passwords

2013-06-09 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Daniel Pocock writes: > My feeling is that the user should be told "go and run sudo or su in a > terminal window you opened manually" I don't think terminal emulation is really a good solution here but your idea does have some merits. Maybe you can make your own policykit agent that asks for the

Re: security policy / root passwords

2013-06-09 Thread Daniel Pocock
On 09/06/13 19:20, Michael Banck wrote: > On Sun, Jun 09, 2013 at 06:45:18PM +0200, Daniel Pocock wrote: >> There have been multiple complaints about the new Gnome popup asking >> for the root password > > I am not sure what you are complaining about - that you need to specify > the root password

Re: DH way to set SONAME

2013-06-09 Thread Jerome BENOIT
On 09/06/13 12:53, Emilio Pozuelo Monfort wrote: > On 09/06/13 08:00, Jerome BENOIT wrote: >> Hello List, >> >> because of backward incompatibility I have to add a suffix to >> my library package name. But lintian keep noticing the mismatch. >> I know the the soname of a library can be specify by

Re: security policy / root passwords

2013-06-09 Thread Michael Banck
On Sun, Jun 09, 2013 at 06:45:18PM +0200, Daniel Pocock wrote: > There have been multiple complaints about the new Gnome popup asking > for the root password I am not sure what you are complaining about - that you need to specify the root password to install packages, or that gnome requests additi

security policy / root passwords

2013-06-09 Thread Daniel Pocock
Hi, There have been multiple complaints about the new Gnome popup asking for the root password I opened a bug for discussion about the issue, but it was closed by another DD (not the maintainer) - [1]. Other users have come across the bug too and requested attention for it with the same conce

Re: Survey answers part 1: systemd has too many dependencies, …

2013-06-09 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 06/09/2013 07:04 AM, Michael Stapelberg wrote: > Hi, > > since some people might not read planet debian, here is a link to my > first blog post in a series of posts dealing with the results of the > Debian systemd survey: > > http://people.debian.org/~stapelberg/2013/06/09/systemd-bloat.html

Bug#711763: ITP: igmpproxy -- simple dynamic Multicast Routing Daemon

2013-06-09 Thread Stephen Gran
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Stephen Gran * Package name: igmpproxy Version : 0.1 Upstream Author : Johnny Egeland * URL : http://sourceforge.net/projects/igmpproxy/ * License : GPL-2+ Programming Lang: C Description : igmpproxy: simple dyna

Re: DH way to set SONAME

2013-06-09 Thread Emilio Pozuelo Monfort
On 09/06/13 13:12, Christoph Egger wrote: > Emilio Pozuelo Monfort writes: >> Patching a library downstream to bump the SONAME needs to be done only in >> very >> special cases and when you know what you're doing. For instance you're going >> to >> break compatibility with third party software t

Re: Survey answers part 1: systemd has too many dependencies, …

2013-06-09 Thread Vincent Bernat
❦ 9 juin 2013 11:45 CEST, Bjørn Mork  : > You do of course not have to agree. This is my personal opinion only. > But I believe it is useful to read Jamie Zawinski's view on screensavers > and toolkit library dependencies, and try to figure out how that can be > relevant to systemd and external

Re: DH way to set SONAME

2013-06-09 Thread Christoph Egger
Emilio Pozuelo Monfort writes: > Patching a library downstream to bump the SONAME needs to be done only in very > special cases and when you know what you're doing. For instance you're going > to > break compatibility with third party software that links against the old > SONAME. Well you also

Re: Bug#711359: ITP: python-first -- simple function that returns the first true value from an iterable

2013-06-09 Thread Jakub Wilk
* Chow Loong Jin , 2013-06-09, 18:19: * URL : https://pypi.python.org/pypi/first [...] A MIT licensed Python package with a simple function that returns the first true value from an iterable, or None if there is none. If you need more power, you can also supply a key function that

Re: DH way to set SONAME

2013-06-09 Thread Emilio Pozuelo Monfort
On 09/06/13 08:00, Jerome BENOIT wrote: > Hello List, > > because of backward incompatibility I have to add a suffix to > my library package name. But lintian keep noticing the mismatch. > I know the the soname of a library can be specify by passing > appropriate options to the gcc tools: is a DH

Re: Survey answers part 1: systemd has too many dependencies, …

2013-06-09 Thread Michael Stapelberg
Hi Bjørn, Thanks for your well-put mail. As far as I understand it, your concern is that libraries might exit() (either due to actually calling exit() or due to having a bug) and therefore take pid 1 with them. I am sure that the systemd developers are very aware of this fact. They even published

Re: Bug#711359: ITP: python-first -- simple function that returns the first true value from an iterable

2013-06-09 Thread Chow Loong Jin
On Sun, Jun 09, 2013 at 11:14:56AM +0200, Thomas Koch wrote: > On Thursday, June 06, 2013 09:01:05 PM Andrey Rahmatullin wrote: > > On Thu, Jun 06, 2013 at 04:31:43PM +0200, Julien Danjou wrote: > > > Package: wnpp > > > Severity: wishlist > > > Owner: Julien Danjou > > > > > > * Package name

Re: Survey answers part 1: systemd has too many dependencies, …

2013-06-09 Thread Bjørn Mork
Michael Stapelberg writes: > since some people might not read planet debian, here is a link to my > first blog post in a series of posts dealing with the results of the > Debian systemd survey: > > http://people.debian.org/~stapelberg/2013/06/09/systemd-bloat.html I was hoping you would cover my

Re: Bug#711359: ITP: python-first -- simple function that returns the first true value from an iterable

2013-06-09 Thread Thomas Koch
On Thursday, June 06, 2013 09:01:05 PM Andrey Rahmatullin wrote: > On Thu, Jun 06, 2013 at 04:31:43PM +0200, Julien Danjou wrote: > > Package: wnpp > > Severity: wishlist > > Owner: Julien Danjou > > > > * Package name: python-first > > > > Version : 2.0.0 > > Upstream Author : H