Re: x32 “half” arrived… now what?

2013-06-07 Thread Paul Wise
On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 11:03 PM, Daniel Schepler wrote: > (Sorry about the lack of threading... for some reason I'm unable to find the > links to download mbox archives for replying to the messages.) The Debian HTML archives list message-ids and have mailto: reply links that include References/In

Re: NDEBUG when building packages?

2013-06-07 Thread Kumar Appaiah
On Fri, Jun 07, 2013 at 11:12:52PM +0200, Kurt Roeckx wrote: > > Currently, I don't bother with this, since the the debug library with > > -O2 is still useful, other than the odd "optimized out" messages. > > As I understand it, with dwarf 4 you should see less problems > trying to debug optimised

Re: NDEBUG when building packages?

2013-06-07 Thread Kumar Appaiah
On Fri, Jun 07, 2013 at 08:29:52AM -0400, Stephen M. Webb wrote: > Having debug symbols not matching the runtime would cause a great deal of > trouble. If you're expecting a lot of > debugging, try the new -Og switch. > > One build pass and let dh_strip create the debug symbols package for you.

Re: DebianBootstrap supported in which Debian suites?

2013-06-07 Thread Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer
On Friday 07 June 2013 23:42:06 Johannes Schauer wrote: > Hi, > > I talked with Lisandro off-list. Apparently my idea applies to this problem > so I'm sharing it here for everybody. :) As a follow-up, in the specific of Qt5, I'm doing the following: - I build arch: all packages from qtbase and q

Re: x32 "half"arrived... now what?

2013-06-07 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Fri, 2013-06-07 at 22:41 +, Thorsten Glaser wrote: > Kurt Roeckx dixit: > > >If you add that requirement, it can be upto 24 bit smaller than > >time_t. But as far as I know, there is no such requirement. In > > Sure. As I was saying, software in practice wants that, > such as the mktime

Re: x32 "half"arrived... now what?

2013-06-07 Thread Thorsten Glaser
Kurt Roeckx dixit: >If you add that requirement, it can be upto 24 bit smaller than >time_t. But as far as I know, there is no such requirement. In Sure. As I was saying, software in practice wants that, such as the mktime test from gnulib. bye, //mirabilos -- “It is inappropriate to require

Bug#711571: ITP: libsdl2-net -- Network library for SDL2

2013-06-07 Thread Manuel A. Fernandez Montecelo
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Debian SDL packages maintainers * Package name: libsdl2-net Version : 2.0.0~rc1 Upstream Author : Sam Lantinga * URL : http://www.libsdl.org/tmp/SDL_net/ * License : zlib/linpng Programming Lang: C Description :

Bug#711570: ITP: libsdl2-mixer -- Mixer library for SDL2

2013-06-07 Thread Manuel A. Fernandez Montecelo
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Debian SDL packages maintainers * Package name: libsdl2-mixer Version : 2.0.0~rc1 Upstream Author : Sam Lantinga * URL : http://www.libsdl.org/tmp/SDL_mixer/ * License : zlib/linpng Programming Lang: C Description

Re: x32 "half"arrived... now what?

2013-06-07 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Fri, Jun 07, 2013 at 09:37:45PM +, Thorsten Glaser wrote: > Kurt Roeckx dixit: > > >tm_year should be an int, not a time_t or long. Note that it > > POSIX says it "must" be a long... It doesn't say so here. It has it as an int. Also note that time_t didn't have a requirement to be an i

Re: Why not to let all DDs to execute "gb"-command

2013-06-07 Thread Matthias Klumpp
2013/6/7 Tollef Fog Heen : > ]] Nicolas Dandrimont > >> The "accepted by DSA part" is a bit complicated. We didn't really want to >> bother one of the busiest teams in Debian when the software wasn't even >> packaged, and, when it came up, I felt that the reception of the idea of >> using fedmsg wa

Re: DebianBootstrap supported in which Debian suites?

2013-06-07 Thread Johannes Schauer
Hi, I talked with Lisandro off-list. Apparently my idea applies to this problem so I'm sharing it here for everybody. :) Quoting Wookey (2013-06-07 17:55:48) > In general we don't have a mechanism to do this _in the archive_ until > build-profiles are supported (or at least ignored by B-D parsing

Re: x32 "half"arrived... now what?

2013-06-07 Thread Thorsten Glaser
Kurt Roeckx dixit: >tm_year should be an int, not a time_t or long. Note that it POSIX says it “must” be a long… >counts in years, and so even a 16 bit int isn't going to cause >much problems for tm_year. … but I disagree. All time_t seconds-since-the-epoch values need (in practice) to round-t

Re: x32 "half"arrived... now what?

2013-06-07 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Fri, Jun 07, 2013 at 09:49:00AM +, Thorsten Glaser wrote: > Russ Allbery debian.org> writes: > > > Be aware that x32 has sizeof(time_t) > sizeof(long), so you should expect > > So has MirBSD/i386 (since 2004-06-19) and NetBSD (since roughly a year). > > Most frequent thing is format spec

Re: NDEBUG when building packages?

2013-06-07 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Fri, Jun 07, 2013 at 07:34:21AM -0400, Kumar Appaiah wrote: > On Fri, Jun 07, 2013 at 11:54:49AM +0200, Mathieu Malaterre wrote: > > cmake from sid makes it even harder. RelWithDebInfo now contains > > -DNDEBUG ... I have to source-upload all my packages :( > > > > $ grep NDEBUG ChangeLog.manua

Bug#711554: ITP: pyhst -- High Speed Tomographic reconstruction controled from Python

2013-06-07 Thread Jerome Kieffer
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Jerome Kieffer Package name: pyhst Version : 2.0. Upstream Author : Alessandro Mirone URL : https://forge.epn-campus.eu/projects/pyhst2 License : GPL Programming Lang: C, Python, CUDA Description : High Spe

Re: NDEBUG when building packages?

2013-06-07 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting Russ Allbery (2013-06-07 20:29:24) > Jonas Smedegaard writes: > > Quoting Stephen M. Webb (2013-06-07 14:29:52) > > >> Having debug symbols not matching the runtime would cause a great > >> deal of trouble. If you're expecting a lot of debugging, try the > >> new -Og switch. > > >> On

Re: Why not to let all DDs to execute "gb"-command

2013-06-07 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
]] Nicolas Dandrimont > The "accepted by DSA part" is a bit complicated. We didn't really want to > bother one of the busiest teams in Debian when the software wasn't even > packaged, and, when it came up, I felt that the reception of the idea of > using fedmsg was a bit lukewarm. I think we shou

Re: NDEBUG when building packages?

2013-06-07 Thread Russ Allbery
Jonas Smedegaard writes: > Quoting Stephen M. Webb (2013-06-07 14:29:52) >> Having debug symbols not matching the runtime would cause a great deal >> of trouble. If you're expecting a lot of debugging, try the new -Og >> switch. >> One build pass and let dh_strip create the debug symbols pack

Re: On accepting pre-generated doc from upstream

2013-06-07 Thread Don Armstrong
On Thu, 06 Jun 2013, Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer wrote: > Building the full doc could be done in two ways: > > - Using the full source tarball. Saddly this means having to compile most of > it in order to get the tools for building the doc, or hacking far too much > the > build system t

Re: NDEBUG when building packages?

2013-06-07 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Mathieu Malaterre schrieb: >On Sat, Feb 23, 2013 at 11:09 AM, Vincent Cheng > wrote: >> On Sat, Feb 23, 2013 at 1:39 AM, Mathieu Malaterre >wrote: >>> On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 9:52 PM, Russ Allbery >wrote: Ian Jackson writes: > Mathieu Malaterre writes ("Re: NDEBUG when building pack

Re: DebianBootstrap supported in which Debian suites?

2013-06-07 Thread Wookey
+++ Jonas Smedegaard [2013-06-07 17:24 +0200]: > Quoting Paul Wise (2013-06-07 05:17:46) > > I would suggest the approach taken by the recent GSoC projects related > > to bootstrapping new ports. Multi-stage builds. First stage without > > docs and second stage with docs. Only the second stage ge

Re: How should we do for font-adobe-copyrighted-fragment error?

2013-06-07 Thread Bastien ROUCARIES
Le 7 juin 2013 09:28, "Atsuhito Kohda" a écrit : > > Hi all, > > On Thu, 6 Jun 2013 11:24:57 +0200, Holger Levsen wrote: > > >> I remembered that there were discussions about proprietry > >> code of adobe in Nov. 2012 but don't understand the conclusion. > > > > #694308 is the bug tracking this, w

Re: How should we do for font-adobe-copyrighted-fragment error?

2013-06-07 Thread Bastien ROUCARIES
Le 7 juin 2013 09:24, "Atsuhito Kohda" a écrit : > > On Thu, 6 Jun 2013 10:21:05 +0200, Bastien ROUCARIES wrote: > > > I have contacted adobe and they are willing to relicense see main bug > > report. > > It seems it will happen not so soon. > > > From my point of view the second one should be cor

DebianBootstrap supported in which Debian suites?

2013-06-07 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting Paul Wise (2013-06-07 05:17:46) > I would suggest the approach taken by the recent GSoC projects related > to bootstrapping new ports. Multi-stage builds. First stage without > docs and second stage with docs. Only the second stage gets uploaded > to Debian. > > http://wiki.debian.org/D

Re: x32 “half” arrived… now what?

2013-06-07 Thread Daniel Schepler
(Sorry about the lack of threading... for some reason I'm unable to find the links to download mbox archives for replying to the messages.) In response to Adam's comments about debootstrap not working because findutils FTBFS: Yes, I'm aware of that, and for now you have to include "unreleased" a

Re: On accepting pre-generated doc from upstream

2013-06-07 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Jun 07, Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer wrote: > - We do have the source code for generating it (preferred form of > modification). > > - We can build it, but it requires lot of work... and avoid FTBFSs while > bootstrapping ;) > > So, could we accept pre-generated documentation in thi

Re: NDEBUG when building packages?

2013-06-07 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting Stephen M. Webb (2013-06-07 14:29:52) > On 06/07/2013 07:34 AM, Kumar Appaiah wrote: > > > > While we're at it, could you please let me know what is the best > > practice for package builds that generate debug symbol packages? > > Ideally, I would hapve to rebuild the whole package TWICE,

Re: On accepting pre-generated doc from upstream

2013-06-07 Thread Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer
On Friday 07 June 2013 08:31:22 Bastien ROUCARIES wrote: > Le 7 juin 2013 05:18, "Paul Wise" a écrit : > > I would suggest the approach taken by the recent GSoC projects related > > to bootstrapping new ports. Multi-stage builds. First stage without > > docs and second stage with docs. Only the se

Re: Why not to let all DDs to execute "gb"-command

2013-06-07 Thread Nicolas Dandrimont
* Philipp Kern [2013-06-07 12:26:37 +0200]: > On 2013-06-06 21:42, Paul Tagliamonte wrote: > >Well, I don't think adding more kruft to dak is a great idea (I > >mean, if > >it has to happen, it has to happen), but this really shows that we need > >a unified way of passing machine-readable message

Re: NDEBUG when building packages?

2013-06-07 Thread Stephen M. Webb
On 06/07/2013 07:34 AM, Kumar Appaiah wrote: > > While we're at it, could you please let me know what is the best > practice for package builds that generate debug symbol packages? > Ideally, I would hapve to rebuild the whole package TWICE, once with > -O0 -g, and the other time with -O2, right?

Re: NDEBUG when building packages?

2013-06-07 Thread Kumar Appaiah
On Fri, Jun 07, 2013 at 11:54:49AM +0200, Mathieu Malaterre wrote: > cmake from sid makes it even harder. RelWithDebInfo now contains > -DNDEBUG ... I have to source-upload all my packages :( > > $ grep NDEBUG ChangeLog.manual > Add -DNDEBUG to RelWithDebInfo flags where where Release flags

Re: default MTA

2013-06-07 Thread Marc Haber
On Thu, 6 Jun 2013 20:06:56 -0400, Chris Knadle wrote: >On Thursday, June 06, 2013 16:30:48, Roger Lynn wrote: >> The smarthosts run by ISPs that most people will be using by default have >> to accept mail direct from MUAs such as Outlook and Thunderbird which will >> often be unable to generate c

Re: default MTA

2013-06-07 Thread Marc Haber
On Thu, 6 Jun 2013 14:07:38 +0100, Jonathan Dowland wrote: >On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 06:38:52PM +0200, Marc Haber wrote: >> On Thu, 30 May 2013 16:53:56 +0200, m...@linux.it (Marco d'Itri) wrote: >> >I think that ease of configurability is a major plus for Postfix when >> >compared to Exim, since

Re: Why not to let all DDs to execute "gb"-command

2013-06-07 Thread Philipp Kern
On 2013-06-06 21:42, Paul Tagliamonte wrote: Well, I don't think adding more kruft to dak is a great idea (I mean, if it has to happen, it has to happen), but this really shows that we need a unified way of passing machine-readable messages between services. Let's see how the GSoC project turns

Re: NDEBUG when building packages?

2013-06-07 Thread Mathieu Malaterre
On Sat, Feb 23, 2013 at 11:09 AM, Vincent Cheng wrote: > On Sat, Feb 23, 2013 at 1:39 AM, Mathieu Malaterre wrote: >> On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 9:52 PM, Russ Allbery wrote: >>> Ian Jackson writes: Mathieu Malaterre writes ("Re: NDEBUG when building packages?"): >>> > In that case, this s

Re: x32 “half”arrived… now what?

2013-06-07 Thread Thorsten Glaser
Russ Allbery debian.org> writes: > Be aware that x32 has sizeof(time_t) > sizeof(long), so you should expect So has MirBSD/i386 (since 2004-06-19) and NetBSD (since roughly a year). Most frequent thing is format specifiers when struct tm.tm_year is time_t instead of long (which is a requirement

Re: On accepting pre-generated doc from upstream

2013-06-07 Thread Charles Plessy
[Dropping debian-legal as it is not a legal issue.] Le Fri, Jun 07, 2013 at 07:40:35AM +0200, olivier sallou a écrit : > > Though packager should at least build the doc himself, locally to be sure > doc can indeed be generated. Hello everybody, how about implementing this verification with auto

Bug#711477: general: Videos are not visible in VMware Workstation

2013-06-07 Thread Bastien ROUCARIES
Control: tag -1 + moreinfo What is your x server ? Le 7 juin 2013 09:15, "Nikos Chantziaras" a écrit : > Package: general > Severity: normal > > Dear Maintainer, > > I've installed Debian 7 as a guest OS in VMware 9.0.2, which is running in > a > Gentoo Linux AMD64 host. Trying to play videos in

Processed: Re: Bug#711477: general: Videos are not visible in VMware Workstation

2013-06-07 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Processing control commands: > tag -1 + moreinfo Bug #711477 [general] general: Videos are not visible in VMware Workstation Added tag(s) moreinfo. -- 711477: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=711477 Debian Bug Tracking System Contact ow...@bugs.debian.org with problems -- To UN

Re: default MTA

2013-06-07 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Thu, Jun 06, 2013 at 11:36:21PM +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote: > Well, in that case, it failed to be as simple to configure as qmail. Is ease of configuration an important criteria for default MTA? More important than sensible-default? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.deb

Re: How should we do for font-adobe-copyrighted-fragment error?

2013-06-07 Thread Atsuhito Kohda
Hi all, On Thu, 6 Jun 2013 11:24:57 +0200, Holger Levsen wrote: >> I remembered that there were discussions about proprietry >> code of adobe in Nov. 2012 but don't understand the conclusion. > > #694308 is the bug tracking this, which should also have more info. Yes, but it looks to me there i

Re: How should we do for font-adobe-copyrighted-fragment error?

2013-06-07 Thread Atsuhito Kohda
On Thu, 6 Jun 2013 10:21:05 +0200, Bastien ROUCARIES wrote: > I have contacted adobe and they are willing to relicense see main bug > report. It seems it will happen not so soon. > From my point of view the second one should be corrected and is serious and > render the package even non suitable

Bug#711477: general: Videos are not visible in VMware Workstation

2013-06-07 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
Package: general Severity: normal Dear Maintainer, I've installed Debian 7 as a guest OS in VMware 9.0.2, which is running in a Gentoo Linux AMD64 host. Trying to play videos in any software that uses GStreamer results in the audio being played normally, but the video is not visible. Instead, a d