Bug#711476: ITP: multi2sim -- CPU-GPU Simulator for Heterogeneous Computing

2013-06-06 Thread William Panlener
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: William Panlener * Package name: multi2sim Version : 4.1.0 Upstream Author : Rafael Ubal * URL : http://www.multi2sim.org/ * License : (GPL-3) Programming Lang: (C) Description : CPU-GPU Simulator for Heterogeneo

Re: On accepting pre-generated doc from upstream

2013-06-06 Thread Bastien ROUCARIES
Le 7 juin 2013 05:18, "Paul Wise" a écrit : > > I would suggest the approach taken by the recent GSoC projects related > to bootstrapping new ports. Multi-stage builds. First stage without > docs and second stage with docs. Only the second stage gets uploaded > to Debian. > > http://wiki.debian.or

Re: On accepting pre-generated doc from upstream

2013-06-06 Thread olivier sallou
2013/6/7 Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer > Hi everyone. First of all, I'm cross-posting this between legal and devel > because I really don't know to which of them belongs (or maybe it does in > both). > > The issue is this: Qt 5 has grown so large (850+MB unpacked in the single- > source tar

Re: On accepting pre-generated doc from upstream

2013-06-06 Thread Paul Wise
I would suggest the approach taken by the recent GSoC projects related to bootstrapping new ports. Multi-stage builds. First stage without docs and second stage with docs. Only the second stage gets uploaded to Debian. http://wiki.debian.org/DebianBootstrap -- bye, pabs http://wiki.debian.org/P

On accepting pre-generated doc from upstream

2013-06-06 Thread Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer
Hi everyone. First of all, I'm cross-posting this between legal and devel because I really don't know to which of them belongs (or maybe it does in both). The issue is this: Qt 5 has grown so large (850+MB unpacked in the single- source tarball, will continue growing) that upstream also provides

Re: Custom Reload command/signal in upstart

2013-06-06 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Sat, Jun 01, 2013 at 12:24:02PM +0200, Vincent Bernat wrote: > It seems that now, we can do this, but the cookbook also says this is > not here yet: > > start on started network-services > > I don't know how systemd behaves in this way (so this is not something > to hold against upstart), bu

Work-needing packages report for Jun 7, 2013

2013-06-06 Thread wnpp
The following is a listing of packages for which help has been requested through the WNPP (Work-Needing and Prospective Packages) system in the last week. Total number of orphaned packages: 488 (new: 0) Total number of packages offered up for adoption: 142 (new: 4) Total number of packages request

Re: default MTA

2013-06-06 Thread Chris Knadle
On Thursday, June 06, 2013 16:30:48, Roger Lynn wrote: > On 06/06/13 14:00, Chris Knadle wrote: > > On Wednesday, June 05, 2013 15:35:14, Marc Haber wrote: > >> On Sun, 2 Jun 2013 19:53:59 -0400, Chris Knadle > >> > >> wrote: > >> >Attempting to use an FQDN is also troublesome, because Exim tries

ITP: ruby-rinku -- autolinker for Ruby

2013-06-06 Thread Per Andersson
Subject: ITP: ruby-rinku -- autolinker for Ruby Package: wnpp Owner: Per Andersson Severity: wishlist * Package name: ruby-rinku Version : 1.7.3 Upstream Author : Vicent Marti * URL : http://github.com/vmg/rinku * License : ISC Programming Lang: C, Ruby De

Re: x32 “half” arrived… now what?

2013-06-06 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Thu, 2013-06-06 at 22:40 +0200, Julien Cristau wrote: > On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 22:01:48 +0200, Adam Borowski wrote: > > > It was Linus' decree that no new ABI is allowed to suffer from the Y2k38 > > bug even if its word size is 32 bit, and I'd say he's right. This means > > that this problem

GNOME in Debian

2013-06-06 Thread Emilio Pozuelo Monfort
On 05/06/13 12:10, Holger Levsen wrote: > I've switched 3 users from Squeeze to Wheezy in the last 2 weeks, and also to > Gnome 3 btw, and they all *love* it. And I also must say, I'm quite > impressed, > Debian on the desktop has come a long way. So, IOW YMMV. We spend a lot of effort to packa

Re: default MTA

2013-06-06 Thread Roger Lynn
On 06/06/13 14:00, Chris Knadle wrote: > On Wednesday, June 05, 2013 15:35:14, Marc Haber wrote: >> On Sun, 2 Jun 2013 19:53:59 -0400, Chris Knadle >> wrote: >> >Attempting to use an FQDN is also troublesome, because Exim tries to use >> >DNS to look up the FQDN, and falls back to using 'uname -n'

Re: x32 “half” arrived… now what?

2013-06-06 Thread Russ Allbery
Adam Borowski writes: > On Thu, Jun 06, 2013 at 09:58:00AM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: >> It's not quite as bad as the porting required for large file support, >> but the consequences of not porting are worse. > How come? I don't think runtime bugs that are not some kind of a Y2k38 > bug are lik

Re: x32 “half” arrived… now what?

2013-06-06 Thread Julien Cristau
On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 22:01:48 +0200, Adam Borowski wrote: > It was Linus' decree that no new ABI is allowed to suffer from the Y2k38 > bug even if its word size is 32 bit, and I'd say he's right. This means > that this problem will bite us the next time another 32 bit arch comes, > so there's

Re: Default desktop for jessie Was: Re: Debian/Wheezy general rant ...

2013-06-06 Thread Ron Scott-Adams
I've assisted a number of people with various distributions, and I will tell you right now that there is only one new user-friendly way to do it: provide a DE out of the box, and choose it for them. People will generally not research and do not know which is "better". They are willing to try som

Re: Default desktop for jessie Was: Re: Debian/Wheezy general rant ...

2013-06-06 Thread Adam Borowski
On Thu, Jun 06, 2013 at 09:13:50PM +0100, Ben Hutchings wrote: > On Thu, Jun 06, 2013 at 08:11:49PM +0200, Bjoern Meier wrote: > [...] > > Ok, an example. my Girlfriend was really pissed of Win8. She hate it > > (for good reasons). She came to me and asked:"Can you show me Linux > > and how it wor

Re: Default desktop for jessie Was: Re: Debian/Wheezy general rant ...

2013-06-06 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Thu, Jun 06, 2013 at 08:11:49PM +0200, Bjoern Meier wrote: [...] > Ok, an example. my Girlfriend was really pissed of Win8. She hate it > (for good reasons). She came to me and asked:"Can you show me Linux > and how it works?". I sweat blood, but I took my honor. > After a successful install sh

Re: http.debian.net / cdn.debian.net (Was: Feedback on Debian 7.0)

2013-06-06 Thread Adam Borowski
On Thu, Jun 06, 2013 at 12:02:58AM +0200, Raphael Geissert wrote: > Re cdn: > > IIRC the main blocker was that it plays with DNS records and would be a bit > painful to have to support such a configuration in part due to DNSSEC. If you're not afraid of such hacks, CNAME-to-CNAME can simplify DNS

Re: http.debian.net / cdn.debian.net (Was: Feedback on Debian 7.0)

2013-06-06 Thread Raphael Geissert
Philipp Kern wrote: > On Thu, Jun 06, 2013 at 12:02:58AM +0200, Raphael Geissert wrote: >> Re cdn: >> >> IIRC the main blocker was that it plays with DNS records and would be a >> bit painful to have to support such a configuration in part due to >> DNSSEC. > > And it uses the location of the DNS

Re: x32 “half” arrived… now what?

2013-06-06 Thread Adam Borowski
On Thu, Jun 06, 2013 at 09:58:00AM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > Thorsten Glaser writes: > > > No complaints against x32 per sé, I want to crossgrade there once it’s > > in, but for as long as it’s broken like this, it doesn’t make it look > > good. > > Be aware that x32 has sizeof(time_t) > size

Re: Why not to let all DDs to execute "gb"-command

2013-06-06 Thread Paul Tagliamonte
On Thu, Jun 06, 2013 at 09:31:12PM +0200, Philipp Kern wrote: > On 2013-06-06 12:40, Joachim Breitner wrote: > Which begs the question if build management should be merged into > dak to provide insight about which package is new. Obviously this > could also be a defined interface but if we're going

Re: Why not to let all DDs to execute "gb"-command

2013-06-06 Thread Philipp Kern
On 2013-06-06 12:40, Joachim Breitner wrote: if the DPAs get wanna-build support (which I hope) you certainly don’t want to handle nmu and gb requests for every developer’s pet repositories, so there will be a need for a general interface. Can this be done using dcut files, just as with other DPA

Re: Default desktop for jessie Was: Re: Debian/Wheezy general rant ...

2013-06-06 Thread Bjoern Meier
hi, 2013/6/6 Russ Allbery : > Bjoern Meier writes: > >> Freedom is not only that you have a choice, you have to know what your >> decision and the consequences will be. Unmanageable? Really? > >> I done LFS a weeks ago, was that unmanageable? No. It's not. Yeah Debian >> is not LFS, but I rember

Advancing the conversation about changing the default init system for debian

2013-06-06 Thread Don Armstrong
In order for there to be any sensible decision about whether we should switch the default init system in Debian, all of the different camps need to summarize their arguments and counter-arguments, ideally with data. To this end, I have started outlining some of the open questions I see in deciding

Re: Debian/Wheezy general rant Was: mount point gets "(deleted)" / unable to unmount

2013-06-06 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 06/06/2013 03:11 PM, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > You are of course aware of the boot menu: Advanced Options -> > Alternative Desktop Environment. Yes. But it should be in d-i, when you choose to install a desktop. Not in syslinux, when you are supposed to choose what kind of installer to start. It

Re: Debian/Wheezy general rant Was: mount point gets "(deleted)" / unable to unmount

2013-06-06 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 06/06/2013 02:25 PM, Bjoern Meier wrote: > the problem - IMHO - is > linux (as the kernel itself and tool-distributions) is getting fat and > kills his own advantages. Time to try Hurd or kFreeBSD? :) (note: I'd like to have more time to invest in them myself, and I perfectly understand that no

Re: default MTA

2013-06-06 Thread Ron Scott-Adams
If you do discover how to do this reliably, I'd be interested in your solution. If you/someone else feels it's too unrelated to this list, feel free to email me directly, but I think this is generally interesting. Ron Scott-Adams r...@tohuw.net "The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack

Re: Default desktop for jessie Was: Re: Debian/Wheezy general rant ...

2013-06-06 Thread Russ Allbery
Bjoern Meier writes: > Freedom is not only that you have a choice, you have to know what your > decision and the consequences will be. Unmanageable? Really? > I done LFS a weeks ago, was that unmanageable? No. It's not. Yeah Debian > is not LFS, but I rember the install-process on potato. That

Re: Default desktop for jessie Was: Re: Debian/Wheezy general rant ...

2013-06-06 Thread Bjoern Meier
hi, 2013/6/6 Ben Hutchings : > On Thu, Jun 06, 2013 at 08:34:35AM +0200, Bjoern Meier wrote: >> 0hi, >> >> 2013/6/6 Chow Loong Jin : >> > On 06/06/2013 06:54, Jeremy Stanley wrote: >> >> On 2013-06-05 15:02:35 -0700 (-0700), Russ Allbery wrote: >> >> [...] >> >>> Did I miss anything? >> >> >> >> I

Re: default MTA

2013-06-06 Thread Chris Knadle
On Thursday, June 06, 2013 13:18:39, Bernhard R. Link wrote: > * Chris Knadle [130606 14:53]: > > I'm glad you asked this, because it prompted me to investigate further. > > This was something I was told was commonly done, but it looks now like > > it might be a misnomer. I'm not able to find a

Bug#711388: ITP: scandir -- Better directory iterator that returns all file info the OS provides

2013-06-06 Thread Nicolas Delvaux
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Nicolas Delvaux * Package name: scandir Version : 0.1+git Upstream Author : Ben Hoyt * URL : https://github.com/benhoyt/scandir * License : BSD-3-clause Programming Lang: Python Description : Better directory ite

Re: Debian/Wheezy general rant Was: mount point gets "(deleted)" / unable to unmount

2013-06-06 Thread Florian Lohoff
On Thu, Jun 06, 2013 at 05:20:21PM +0200, Jean-Christophe Dubacq wrote: > >But why on earth did very simple thing like multihead management break? > > Very simple thing ‽ Clearly, you have no idea. It was functional and working for me in Squeeze it doesnt now. Wheezy is supposed to use monitors

Re: Debian/Wheezy general rant Was: mount point gets "(deleted)" / unable to unmount

2013-06-06 Thread Matthias Klumpp
2013/6/6 Florian Lohoff : > On Wed, Jun 05, 2013 at 04:19:04PM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote: >> That said, we provide GNOME Classic in wheezy for good reasons. Some of >> Florian’s concerns are clearly among them. > > I have tried that and the annoyances with the systray, multihead and > nautilus

Re: default MTA

2013-06-06 Thread Bernhard R. Link
* Chris Knadle [130606 14:53]: > I'm glad you asked this, because it prompted me to investigate further. This > was something I was told was commonly done, but it looks now like it might be > a misnomer. I'm not able to find a concrete example of a system that allows > SMTP MTA transfers but

Re: x32 “half” arrived… now what?

2013-06-06 Thread Russ Allbery
Thorsten Glaser writes: > No complaints against x32 per sé, I want to crossgrade there once it’s > in, but for as long as it’s broken like this, it doesn’t make it look > good. Be aware that x32 has sizeof(time_t) > sizeof(long), so you should expect SUBSTANTIAL porting of packages to be require

Re: Default desktop for jessie

2013-06-06 Thread Martin Eberhard Schauer
udev sucks! Debian should hire a developer to replace all uses of CDBS with dh! Perl should be replaced with Python in essential! All packages need to switch to 3.0 (quilt)! Native packages should be banned! No one should ever be allowed to NMU anything ever if the maintainer says no! Did

Re: Default desktop for jessie Was: Re: Debian/Wheezy general rant ...

2013-06-06 Thread Holger Levsen
On Donnerstag, 6. Juni 2013, Russ Allbery wrote: > udev sucks! Debian should hire a developer to replace all uses of CDBS > with dh! Perl should be replaced with Python in essential! All packages > need to switch to 3.0 (quilt)! Native packages should be banned! No one > should ever be allowed

Re: Default desktop for jessie Was: Re: Debian/Wheezy general rant ...

2013-06-06 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Thu, Jun 06, 2013 at 08:34:35AM +0200, Bjoern Meier wrote: > 0hi, > > 2013/6/6 Chow Loong Jin : > > On 06/06/2013 06:54, Jeremy Stanley wrote: > >> On 2013-06-05 15:02:35 -0700 (-0700), Russ Allbery wrote: > >> [...] > >>> Did I miss anything? > >> > >> I don't understand at all how you could h

Re: x32 ???half??? arrived??? now what?

2013-06-06 Thread Philipp Kern
On 2013-06-06 15:35, Thorsten Glaser wrote: I still think it schizo that x32 is only halfway in and the Linux kernel Debian team mostly sends signals that it wants to block the architecture altogether. And the multilibs thing… nobody seems to have commented on it either. Sometimes it helps if e

Re: default MTA

2013-06-06 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 05/31/2013 12:27 AM, Philip Hands wrote: > Well, I'd say that at least part of the motivation was actually to write > a qmail replacement, that didn't have someone with DJB's atitute to > licensing as upstream -- it was for a long time called vmailer > (v==vapour) as coined by DJB, and adopted b

Re: x32 ???half??? arrived??? now what?

2013-06-06 Thread Adam Borowski
On Thu, Jun 06, 2013 at 11:27:15AM +0200, Helmut Grohne wrote: > On Thu, Jun 06, 2013 at 10:23:14AM +0200, Thorsten Glaser wrote: > > tglase@tglase:~ $ fgrep X32 /boot/config-3.9-1-amd64 > > # CONFIG_X86_X32 is not set > > See http://wiki.debian.org/X32Port and > http://lists.debian.org/debian-dev

Re: Debian/Wheezy general rant Was: mount point gets "(deleted)" / unable to unmount

2013-06-06 Thread Jean-Christophe Dubacq
On 06/06/2013 15:31, Florian Lohoff wrote: On Wed, Jun 05, 2013 at 04:19:04PM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote: That said, we provide GNOME Classic in wheezy for good reasons. Some of Florian’s concerns are clearly among them. I have tried that and the annoyances with the systray, multihead and n

Re: Bug#711359: ITP: python-first -- simple function that returns the first true value from an iterable

2013-06-06 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
On Thu, Jun 06, 2013 at 04:31:43PM +0200, Julien Danjou wrote: > Package: wnpp > Severity: wishlist > Owner: Julien Danjou > > * Package name: python-first > Version : 2.0.0 > Upstream Author : Hynek Schlawack > * URL : https://pypi.python.org/pypi/first > * License

Bug#711359: ITP: python-first -- simple function that returns the first true value from an iterable

2013-06-06 Thread Julien Danjou
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Julien Danjou * Package name: python-first Version : 2.0.0 Upstream Author : Hynek Schlawack * URL : https://pypi.python.org/pypi/first * License : MIT Programming Lang: Python Description : simple function that r

Re: x32 ???half??? arrived??? now what?

2013-06-06 Thread Thorsten Glaser
Helmut Grohne subdivi.de> writes: > http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2013/05/msg00355.html Ah okay. That one got lost in GMane’s threading because the original mail wasn’t posted in this newsgroup. I still think it schizo that x32 is only halfway in and the Linux kernel Debian team mostly s

Re: Debian/Wheezy general rant Was: mount point gets "(deleted)" / unable to unmount

2013-06-06 Thread Florian Lohoff
On Wed, Jun 05, 2013 at 04:19:04PM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote: > That said, we provide GNOME Classic in wheezy for good reasons. Some of > Florian’s concerns are clearly among them. I have tried that and the annoyances with the systray, multihead and nautilus manages backdrop are the same. I a

Re: Proposed mass bug filing: Removal of automake1.4, automake1.9, automake1.10 and automake1.11

2013-06-06 Thread Thorsten Glaser
Eric Dorland debian.org> writes: > Sorry about that. Generally how I transition to a new upstream version > is to update the automake package and then upload a new automake1.X > package after that. So I will be uploading an automake1.11 package > shortly to fix this. OK, thank you! (I think yo

Re: default MTA

2013-06-06 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
On Thu, Jun 06, 2013 at 02:07:38PM +0100, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > You're right, in that the "interface" that a user has to exim-on-debian is > update-exim4.conf.conf, rather than exim4's configuration directly; however, > length aside, I don't see this as a strength, but a serious source of > con

Re: default MTA

2013-06-06 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 06:38:52PM +0200, Marc Haber wrote: > On Thu, 30 May 2013 16:53:56 +0200, m...@linux.it (Marco d'Itri) wrote: > >I think that ease of configurability is a major plus for Postfix when > >compared to Exim, since a common configurations is just a few lines long. > > How many

Re: default MTA

2013-06-06 Thread Chris Knadle
On Wednesday, June 05, 2013 15:35:14, Marc Haber wrote: > On Sun, 2 Jun 2013 19:53:59 -0400, Chris Knadle > > wrote: > >On Sunday, June 02, 2013 17:10:02, Marc Haber wrote: > >> Exim's default in the packages is not to send authentication data over > >> a non-encrypted connection. The debconf cod

Re: Why not to let all DDs to execute "gb"-command

2013-06-06 Thread Anton Gladky
2013/6/6 Joachim Breitner : > [..] > Can this be done using dcut files, just as with other DPA management commands? That would be fine. Anton -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive:

Re: Why not to let all DDs to execute "gb"-command

2013-06-06 Thread Joachim Breitner
Hi, Am Donnerstag, den 06.06.2013, 12:24 +0200 schrieb Philipp Kern: > On Wed, Jun 05, 2013 at 09:10:39PM +0200, Anton Gladky wrote: > > I think, most of developers are clever enough to define, whether the > > built failed "accidentally" and needs to be restarted, or it requires > > some fixing an

Re: Feedback on Debian 7.0

2013-06-06 Thread Guido Günther
On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 10:49:41PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: [..snip..] > If they told us we could call it Firefox without compromising our ability > to maintain the packages to the quality standards that Debian users > expect, we would happily change the branding back, because we know it's > con

Re: http.debian.net / cdn.debian.net (Was: Feedback on Debian 7.0)

2013-06-06 Thread Philipp Kern
On Thu, Jun 06, 2013 at 12:02:58AM +0200, Raphael Geissert wrote: > Re cdn: > > IIRC the main blocker was that it plays with DNS records and would be a bit > painful to have to support such a configuration in part due to DNSSEC. And it uses the location of the DNS resolver of the user, which we

Re: Why not to let all DDs to execute "gb"-command

2013-06-06 Thread Philipp Kern
On Wed, Jun 05, 2013 at 09:10:39PM +0200, Anton Gladky wrote: > I think, most of developers are clever enough to define, whether the > built failed "accidentally" and needs to be restarted, or it requires > some fixing and uploading new version. It will save time for both DDs > and wb-team. Genera

Re: x32 ???half??? arrived??? now what?

2013-06-06 Thread Helmut Grohne
On Thu, Jun 06, 2013 at 10:23:14AM +0200, Thorsten Glaser wrote: > tglase@tglase:~ $ fgrep X32 /boot/config-3.9-1-amd64 > # CONFIG_X86_X32 is not set See http://wiki.debian.org/X32Port and http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2013/05/msg00355.html Helmut -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-deve

Re: How should we do for font-adobe-copyrighted-fragment error?

2013-06-06 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, On Donnerstag, 6. Juni 2013, Atsuhito Kohda wrote: > I have updated texmacs package today and saw that many > type1 fonts contained in texmacs-common got error messages > "font-adobe-copyrighted-fragment" by lintian. > > I remembered that there were discussions about proprietry > code of adob

Re: How should we do for font-adobe-copyrighted-fragment error?

2013-06-06 Thread Bastien ROUCARIES
Le 6 juin 2013 07:20, "Atsuhito Kohda" a écrit : > > Hi, > > I have updated texmacs package today and saw that many > type1 fonts contained in texmacs-common got error messages > "font-adobe-copyrighted-fragment" by lintian. > > I remembered that there were discussions about proprietry > code of a

x32 “half” arrived… now what?

2013-06-06 Thread Thorsten Glaser
Hi! The latest sid upgrades produce dependencies on: ii libc6-dev-x322.17-5 i386 Embedded GNU C Library: X32 ABI Development Libraries for AMD64 ii libc6-x322.17-5

Re: Debian/Wheezy general rant Was: mount point gets "(deleted)" / unable to unmount

2013-06-06 Thread Bjoern Meier
hi, 2013/6/6 Andrei POPESCU : > On Jo, 06 iun 13, 13:58:24, Thomas Goirand wrote: >> >> Feel free to contribute it. I would welcome it. I too, feel like its a >> shame that there's no dialog to choose which desktop you want (even if >> we have specialized CDs, I prefer the netinst ones, and there,

Re: Debian/Wheezy general rant Was: mount point gets "(deleted)" / unable to unmount

2013-06-06 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Jo, 06 iun 13, 13:58:24, Thomas Goirand wrote: > > Feel free to contribute it. I would welcome it. I too, feel like its a > shame that there's no dialog to choose which desktop you want (even if > we have specialized CDs, I prefer the netinst ones, and there, such a > dialog would be a very goo